InvertMouse Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 No need to feel silly at all . I just took a look at the screenshots, and wow, they went for a completely different style there . grim_tales1 1 Quote
grim_tales1 Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 No need to feel silly at all . I just took a look at the screenshots, and wow, they went for a completely different style there . Quote
grim_tales1 Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 I agree it reminds me of 999 a bit more Have you heard this cover? Amazing: Quote
Funyarinpa Posted January 11, 2015 Author Posted January 11, 2015 I agree it reminds me of 999 a bit more Have you heard this cover? Amazing! grim_tales1 1 Quote
grim_tales1 Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 This very interesting tweet was just er, tweeted: Â "What if we told you that, as far as we know, the main twist has never been done in a fiction work?" Â That sounds like something really special, but now everyone will go crazy (me included) Quote
Funyarinpa Posted February 2, 2015 Author Posted February 2, 2015 http://vocaroo.com/i/s0tpiLPEQHyl  A teaser for one of the tracks.  It's promising in my opinion. grim_tales1 1 Quote
grim_tales1 Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 I was just going to post that It does indeed sound promising - very atmospheric. Quote
mbl Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 So these 'fans' are making their own game that will sort of share the same feel as ZE, and are claiming they will somehow support the development of ZE3 by letting the developer buy stocks in the license holder with half of their release profits. Even if the sketchy claim of giving him money to buy stocks were true, how would it affect the chances of a ZE3 release? Unless this random project that is trying to ride coattail of a semi-popular game series somehow made a huge amount of money and the developers didn't get sued by the license holders for the stuff they are claiming, Uchikoshi buying stocks with whatever money they give him will do nothing. One stockholder buying a small portion of the company just to petition for a particular project isn't going to magically change the fact that everyone else involved has already decided that the project is a bad idea, and killed it because games weren't selling well. Â I wouldn't touch this with a ten-foot pole. If the namedroped staff members are proven to be a part of this, and you really want to see this particular game developed, then support it (As long as they don't come out with some ridiculous goal in crowdfunding). If you're just wanting to see another ZE release, then don't touch this crap. Maybe petition for a crowdfunding campaign from people who actually have a right to make such claims. Decay 1 Quote
grim_tales1 Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 Why do you say that? I don't think 'everyone' at Chunsoft thinks the game won't sell, just a certain number of them have more influence. According to Uchikoshi not everyone is against the idea. Quote
mbl Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 Why do you say that? I don't 'everyone' at Chunsoft thinks the game won't sell, just a certain number of them have more influence. According to Uchikoshi not everyone is against the idea. Â These people are claiming to give this guy half their profits, so that he may use them to purchase a foothold in Chunsoft. If he couldn't convince them to produce the game as one of their developers, how much do you think him gaining a small stockhold is going to change? I am not saying it is impossible, I am saying that it will be an uphill battle and the stocks won't change much. Â There are better ways for fans to go about saving a license than buying some random third-party's game on a sketchy promise that they'll somehow change another company's views if you give them your money. Quote
MrP Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 I'm all for supporting oelvn's, especially in the vein of Uchikoshi's work. I hope they do well. However, this whole idea is batshit insane and pretty unprofessional to be honest. Most oelvn's are borderline unplayable, I reckon I could count on one hand the number to return a substantial profit. Seems like a bit of a publicity stunt, possibly an IP infringement and not the sort of behavior you'd expect from a serious vn dev.  I mean good luck to them and all, I'd love to be proved wrong, yet I'm not gonna get my hopes up. I'd consider myself lucky if they release a quality game. To hold up hope of getting Zero Escape 3 funded as an incentive to buy a game, that realistically has a very slim chance of showing a profit, just seems kind of wrong to me. Beyond a sketchy promise to me. Do like the screenshot though! Quote
grim_tales1 Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 On Twitter (in French) someone asked "Why not crowdfunding?" I think theyre saying they'll try some way: 'On va tâcher moyen mais si ça permet de récolter le minimum pour finir le jeu avec une bonne bande-son, ce sera déjà beaucoup !' Quote
Funyarinpa Posted February 7, 2015 Author Posted February 7, 2015 So these 'fans' are making their own game that will sort of share the same feel as ZE, and are claiming they will somehow support the development of ZE3 by letting the developer buy stocks in the license holder with half of their release profits. Even if the sketchy claim of giving him money to buy stocks were true, how would it affect the chances of a ZE3 release? Unless this random project that is trying to ride coattail of a semi-popular game series somehow made a huge amount of money and the developers didn't get sued by the license holders for the stuff they are claiming, Uchikoshi buying stocks with whatever money they give him will do nothing. One stockholder buying a small portion of the company just to petition for a particular project isn't going to magically change the fact that everyone else involved has already decided that the project is a bad idea, and killed it because games weren't selling well. Â I wouldn't touch this with a ten-foot pole. If the namedroped staff members are proven to be a part of this, and you really want to see this particular game developed, then support it (As long as they don't come out with some ridiculous goal in crowdfunding). If you're just wanting to see another ZE release, then don't touch this crap. Maybe petition for a crowdfunding campaign from people who actually have a right to make such claims. Â I agree it's sketchy as hell, but I'm optimistic, this VN is promising in its own regard but it definitely is a dick move to ride on the coattails of another franchise grim_tales1 1 Quote
grim_tales1 Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 I agree it does appear sketchy, but they must have gotten permission somehow, some 999/VLR composers are working on it for example. Sounds very exciting though, I'm optimistic. On the other hand there have been other OELVNs like Exogenisis made by ZE fans too. (Still waiting for that one). Quote
MrP Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Brilliant as Shinji Hosoe is, I would imagine the only thing needed to get him 'working on it' is an agreement to buy x tracks at y price. I really don't think he has much input regarding the playable content of the many games he composes for and I personally don't take his 'involvement' as an endorsement. I'm 99.9% sure they don't have permission for anything. Â Exogenisis is more promising, at least it appears much further into development and more confident to stand on its own feet, if only a fraction of the budget of a truly commercial VN. Honestly, the short tweet by Uchikoshi's expressing interest Exogenisis is more official 'endorsement' than anything I've see for Project Ace; and I'm assuming that interest is just based on a quick look at the kickstarter profile. grim_tales1 1 Quote
grim_tales1 Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Yeah, I dont think the composers have any input into the gameplay/story. Quote
Funyarinpa Posted February 14, 2015 Author Posted February 14, 2015 An interview has been released between the developers and "Save Zero Escape" (a ZE fan group). Keep in mind that the interview includes early spoilers for ADiaCE, so if you want to go in blind, do not read it.  Facebook link to Save Zero Escape's post of the interview  Pastebin mirror Quote
grim_tales1 Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 I read it (unfortunately) but I'll probably forget most/all of it by the time the game is made. I should ask them if it will be released worldwide or coming to US/Japan first. Quote
Zakamutt Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 If anyone has problems reading the interview wall-of-text style on their Facebook page, there's a pastebin version which might be a bit better. My personal obsession with line breaks led me to create this version as well. Â Choice quote: "Finally, I'd like to stress that I do not intend to trick people into thinking this will be a "fund Zero Escape 3" campaign, nor have I ever claimed otherwise." Quote
Funyarinpa Posted February 14, 2015 Author Posted February 14, 2015 If anyone has problems reading the interview wall-of-text style on their Facebook page, there's a pastebin version which might be a bit better. My personal obsession with line breaks led me to create this version as well. Â Choice quote: "Finally, I'd like to stress that I do not intend to trick people into thinking this will be a "fund Zero Escape 3" campaign, nor have I ever claimed otherwise." Â It's a small world, I created that pastebin Quote
Zakamutt Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 Wait, you're back to -rinpa? Holy shit. Â ... Â Sure is a small world. Happy I went ahead with the linebreak mission as I managed to read the (highly interesting) interview that way. Quote
Funyarinpa Posted February 14, 2015 Author Posted February 14, 2015 Wait, you're back to -rinpa? Holy shit. Â ... Â Sure is a small world. Happy I went ahead with the linebreak mission as I managed to read the (highly interesting) interview that way. Â Congrats, they retweeted you on Twitter:Â https://twitter.com/zakamutt/status/566594737055203328 Â (Edit: Congrats also for being the first person to explicitly state they've noticed my username change, you're likely the first to notice) Â Also, may I ask how you came across that pastebin? Thanks ^^ Quote
Zakamutt Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 Oh, they RT'd me long before I wrote my post about it  anyway, hmmmmmmm I'm not sure. It was probably someone else's tweet I read on one of the vn news lists I use (and curate). Quote
grim_tales1 Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 Congrats, they retweeted you on Twitter:Â https://twitter.com/zakamutt/status/566594737055203328 Â (Edit: Congrats also for being the first person to explicitly state they've noticed my username change, you're likely the first to notice) Â Also, may I ask how you came across that pastebin? Thanks ^^ I noticed the change too actually with your change of sig - Sora is very pleasant to look at Quote
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