Tsukihime guide - clarification/alternate route needed

[Tay]

I never used the Tsukihime guide so I missed this, but /u/Shotgun_Diplomacy over on this reddit thread pointed out that our guide leads through a

 

rape scene in choice #20, apparently,

without a warning or alternative route that doesn't include it.

 

Anybody up for making an addendum to the guide to deal with this?

[Mr Poltroon]

Well, given how there are 5 routes and a lot of endings saying "Choice 20" doesn't really say much.

 

Edit: Taking a look at the redit thread, I see that it's Hisui's route; 

Edited March 29, 2015 by Tiagofvarela

[Down]

There's also an (optional) rape scene in Arcueid's route.

 

Why are we supposed to signal this in walkthroughs anyway?

[Mr Poltroon]

There's also an (optional) rape scene in Arcueid's route.

 

Why are we supposed to signal this in walkthroughs anyway?

[Down]

 

Because not everyone enjoys rape scenes.

It is true that the guide is still accurate, but if at all possible one should have some morals and at least put a small warning.

[Tay]

I figured if it's optional it would be good to say so. If it's part of the plot then I guess that's a different story.

[Flutterz]

I figured if it's optional it would be good to say so. If it's part of the plot then I guess that's a different story.

I dunno, if you just put warnings on the optional ones someone might be like "okay, I know for a fact this VN doesn't have rape scenes because there's no warning" on a VN where it's not optional. Either put warnings or don't, and I personally lean towards not putting them. Some games have rather ambiguous scenes where one person might not think it's rape while another will, and like Down said, there's an 18+ tag which covers it.

[Scorp]

A bit offtopic, but somehow related... I read that on tv-tropes:

 

Suppress Roa in my ass! - A line from a ridiculous sex scene in Tsukihime.

But, there is really NO SUCH LINE in Mirror Moon translation (believe me, I checked extracted script). Does anyone knows from where this came? Maybe some early translated version? Or it was really not in the game and it's a mistake on tvtropes?

PS: Shiki is a sadistic bastard in bed, really. All the h-scenes with him are an eyesore, if you're not into that. I believe Shirou in FSN not too much better, so... Seems Nasu is same too? Oh boy, I am so sorry about his wife...