Not going to lie @Lumaria, at first I had the impression that you were just going to be another stubborn person who would refuse to properly interpret other peoples reasoning and continue to talk in circles. But as the discussion continued, I realized that you aren't as stubborn as I expected. While there are still differing opinions between you and I, I am quite looking forward to engaging in future discussions with you. I apologize for labeling you as a stubborn circle walker, and not as the stubborn person who is willing and able to go places. Until our next encounter, goodbye.