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After having read the reddit post, I really do have to agree that this specific community (the VN community) is very easily offended and quick to overreact over every little thing. I remember when all the FuwaMods swapped their forum avatars with each other's and they suddenly got called out for being unprofessional and immature. Like what the fuck lol. Mods aren't allowed to have a bit of fun now? I don't know what attributes to this - maybe it's because a majority of the fanbase are literally teens - but it's ridiculous how butthurt people get over nothing

Pretty sure he was responding to Abyssal's post about lacking discipline and saving himself until he's 30. And being envious of a relationship implies they have someone you don't, for example a relationship. You really need to work on your reading comprehension Suit yourself. No no, please, allow me. I will endeavour to make good use of any opportunity to praise Ren's reading comprehension abilities. On many occasions have I found his ability to interpret things that just aren't there quite astonishing! Keep up the good work, my jolly good fellow.

Reading comprehension seems to be Ren's weak spot

It’s an internet-wide phenomenon. I was on the Bethesda forums when their fanbase melted the joint for a year after Oblivion. The same thing happened with Mass Effect over the ending. More angst over Diablo 3. It’s happening all the freaking time these days, and yet the quality of the stuff we’re getting is consistently high. I remember the good old days when people voted with their wallet and didn’t whinge so much, it was much quieter… I should also point out to all those young hippies talking of boycotts and who think people power on the internet is all-rad: Bethesda faced a huge revolt from their loyal fanbase after they went in another direction with Oblivion -> look at the effect it had on Skyrim. Mass Effect faced a huge boycott over Mass Effect -> look at DA:O, in fact we were facing the ‘death of Bioware’ if you all recall. Boycotts only work when you have the majority of people on your side, more often than not you guys only have the noisy protest vote. I like to hang there when I'm in a certain mood, but I don't pretend it isn't a slummy place. I'm used to it though because RPGCodex is my favourite haunt and it's pretty much 4chan for old-school RPGers.

What kind of self-respecting person does even read 4c nowadays? Oh, wait...

Unfortunately that's just the way the internet is these days. It's the trend to act as offended as humanly possible at the smallest slight, and whenever something happens that people don't like, no matter how insignificant it may be, they yell and scream until someone addresses the issue. Or doesn't and then they forget a week later. edit: See above. lmao.

Back on topic: I should point out that while Doddler doesn’t agree with their public relations behaviour (for obvious reasons,) he says the game looks much better in 1280x720 than it did at 800x600, even with the cropping. So there you go, an endorsement from someone many in the VN community respects and adores. Maybe that will calm the hyperbole over the issue. Cropping itself isn’t a bad thing. They seemed to have exchanged a higher resolution for less overall information. It becomes a bad thing if important aspects are chopped out, so some kind hearted guinea pig really needs to play through and offer some feedback for the fans (didn’t enjoy the VN so it won’t be me.) What does that have to do with anything. Doddler programs things, there's no reason to hold his opinion on artwork over everyone else's simply because he's more known. Personally I like to think artists put effort into the background just as much as they put effort into drawing the focus, so even just cutting out 'meaningless bits' is somewhat of a shame. Especially since it announced that the game was going to be upscaled, yet a lot of people wouldn't exactly call that an improvement if that means losing something else in return for it.

Hidden Content Hidden Content I'm beginning to think you want everyone to tease you about this.

I'm slowly coming to terms with Kickstarter being used for eroge localization. While Sekai Project has fudged it up, I think companies like Degica and MiKandi may actually use it for good without ignoring the eroge fanbase. Both companies have pledged to make the adult content available through official channels. That's good enough for me. I may be hesitant to fund these endeavors, but if other fans want to take the risk in my stead I have no reason to stop them. If it means we'll get more titles in English: please, take as much risk as you want! I'll sit quietly over here while these suckers hardcore fans subsidize a wider selection of titles at no additional cost to me.

Zenophilious: Kickstarter may not originally have been intended to be used this way, but SP are hardly the first or the most high-profile ones to use it this way. If you'd preferred Kickstarter to stay limited to usage for its original intent, well, that ship has sailed. Doesn't mean you've got to throw any money at their campaigns, of course - I pretty much never do, either, though that's because I'm just not interested in them to begin with. But I don't think it matters at this point whether SP continues using Kickstarter this way. It's not like there's some sort of finite pool of Kickstarter money that would go to other projects if SP stopped using it. Moreover, Kickstarter is very well suited for the VN market since it allows the company to offer the main product combined with additional stuff at a much higher price than they could get from a sale on Steam. There's a decent amount of people in the community who, if given the opportunity, are willing to spend well over 100$ for a VN that by itself would cost at most maybe 40$, which makes VNs viable that otherwise might not be able to recoup the costs of localization. So it's not just a matter of pushing the risk onto the customers. Amusingly enough, that clashes a bit with the idea that the traditional eroge fanbase aren't their target audience. I'm pretty sure most people willing to spend a large amount of money on a single VN would be part of that audience. Well, maybe not 4chan in particular, no idea about them. Personally, the main problem I have with SP is that they don't outright say "yes, we'll publish an 18+ version of every VN we license that has one, as long as the developer will let us", which irks me, no matter the reason they don't. But in the end that just means they get no money from me unless and until they do publish the 18+ version. I guess I'd actually be pissed if they got their hands on something I really cared about and proceeded to release only an all-ages version, but that fortunately hasn't happened so far.

So it came to my attention recently upon reading the G-Senjou no Maou CG thread that there are some members of the community who believe the Japanese developers are the ones responsible for setting restrictions on their games when they are delivered overseas. I want to clarify that point a little bit so people understand who is making all the decisions. A long time ago, Mephisto (an old member of Fuwanovel) and I did a live stream translation of Cocoro@Function! by Pulltop. After uploading some of the previous recordings we did to YouTube, I noticed that after a few months I got 4-5 copyright strikes and my videos were taken down. Pulltop yakuza jokes aside, I initially thought the company itself was the group who claimed my videos and had them taken down. It turns out that was not the case. In Japan, there is a group called the Ethics Organization of Computer Software (EOCS). Functioning much like the ESRB, it aims to promote a sense of ethical responsibility with respect to the production, distribution, and use of computer software. In this case, adult PC games and mobile games. To give you a better idea of what it actually does, here are some of its responsibilities: Support bishoujo gamesCombat software piracyProvide scholarships for students interested in becoming software designersRecognize good retailers (segregating games of different ratings, etc.)Essentially, this is the group responsible for setting the rules of distributing eroge. It functions much like a committee, meaning that every developer who is interested in selling their products in Japan must be a part of this group. They are also the group responsible for creating the "Japan Sales Only" label and are allowed to remove developers from their committee should they break protocol. In other words, the EOCS determines how games are localized overseas. If a company doesn't follow their strict set of rules, they are removed from the group and are no longer able to sell their games at retailers in Japan (i.e. = Sofmap). If you are interested in reading more about it, check out their official Japanese site that Mephisto and I browsed a long time ago: http://www.sofurin.org/index.htm http://www.sofurin.org/htm/topics/34.htm

Lmao what the hell!? They deleted his thread too! Free speech and criticism isn't a thing anymore, didn't you hear? Yeah! 1984! Fahrenheit 451! Other books with numbers in them! This is the way business works, guys and gals. It's not always pretty, but it's how the sausage gets made. It's a combination of SP being unable to talk about certain things because of contractual/legal obligations PLUS them not wanting to embarrass their partners and thereby endanger future projects. I've done several ad campaigns for game releases involving Japanese developers and/or Japanese IPs. I've lived it. There are layers after layers after layers of red tape to go through before you're allowed to say just about anything. (And for the record, I'm not a fan of cropping CGs either.)

A little "update" after a couple weeks. I really appreciate everyone who's dropped by this thrad and left their opinions and experiences. It's quite surprising how many different relationships you can with your siblings and I learned quite a bit from all this. (Mainly that there's no one single way to properly deal with your sister) After making this thread, I've become a little more proactive in talking to my sister, although we don't make much small talk yet. I mostly tend to listen to whatever she has to say, but I do try to talk back rather than just walking away now. I've begun helping her with her homework more frequently and actually staying with her in the room rather than just answering her when she has a question and leaving. This also led me to learn I suck at 5th grade math problems, but on that end both me and my sister could relate. Not much has happened since, but we are going to the movies this Sunday and, as some already suggested, this should be the easier way to get along without an excessive amount of interaction, so I'm looking forward to it. Not sure if anyone would be interested but I figured, as the one who made the thread, I'd let you know I did try to do something about the whole situation and things are going okay~

Pretty sure he was responding to Abyssal's post about lacking discipline and saving himself until he's 30. And being envious of a relationship implies they have someone you don't, for example a relationship. You really need to work on your reading comprehension

So, I did like 10 golden ticket roll and, she arrived! Current roster, have saved up 153Q for Alexander : Also, still need 1 plume to 4th ascend my d'Eon

I fell down the slippery slope of VN-like games: Phoenix Wright --> Hotel Dusk --> Danganronpa --> 999 --> Ever17 --> everything else

Due to legal issues, on the advice of our lawyers, we cannot talk about WAS - NJ eta: We are still committed to delivering it, we just can't talk about what happened. https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/3rg7y9/sekai_project_and_rvisualnovels/cwnvo4o There's been problems with the Doujin group in Japan, so that project's been a bit of a clusterfuck it sounds like. Why should we accept that lame excuse? why didn't sekai project tell us from the beginning that it wasn't them managing the project. sic "All production work was managed by the circle initially.After September of this year we've taken over" Why did I back sekai when it wasn't them who were in charge of the project and why didn't they tell us on the KS page? And why did they make a contract with them if that was the case? Something isn't right. What does anything have to do with the fact that they uploaded an old patch because nobody really checked anything to begin with and then ignoring repeatedly everything related to that issue (deleting a post on steam that told them about that mistake) and a month later giving that shitty excuse of legal issues which isn't related to the bad management and poor service customer that they have, so did "the circle" manage their steam account and upload files for them? or did their lawyer advice them to do that too huh? Why did we get to know that they were having legal issues after 9 month of the project being delayed? Come on, stop defending something that cannot be defended. I will love to give a lame excuse like that in my life and get away with it.

It also sends a notification whenever someone follows you. So you all can feel free to completely flood Tay's notification box with follows.

Oh God, I used to watch that from time to time. I was a sucker for shows like this when I was a kid. The only episode I can actually remember at all involved a lady that was slowly driven insane by talking vegetables, which was every bit as silly as it sounds. ^^;

Clearly you lack discipline. You need to protect yourself to the age of 30. For teh magikz! Do not be swayed by greener pastures, for with time, even they sink to ruin. The only thing that will never fail you is yourself and your powers. Indeed... Fufufu...

Hidden Content Hidden Content Confession: I have never been as envious of anyone in my entire life as I am right now Clearly you lack discipline. You need to protect yourself to the age of 30. For teh magikz! Do not be swayed by greener pastures, for with time, even they sink to ruin. The only thing that will never fail you is yourself and your powers.

I can't wait for Angel Beats! to get released and the Kazamatsuri guys go on a crusade to keep me from reviewing it.

Welcome to the community, feel free to ask any questions you may have.

Actually, I'm a contractee. I work freelance so I don't do work specifically for SP, though that's where a lot of my workload is from at the moment I see that you're not taking this ban quite well though, despite stating that you didn't care before. If you honestly think that saying "I honestly recommend the original version with the fan patch instead" is okay on the G-Senjou forum, then just wow lol. Politely-worded or not, both threads were closed for the same reason (and it wasn't because they weren't being polite). I'm not surprised, considering both of the topics were actually outright promoting piracy; meaningful criticism/discussion, or not - you do not post such statements on devs' (semi)official message boards, otherwise you'll always end with the same kind of result. It’s an internet-wide phenomenon. I was on the Bethesda forums when their fanbase melted the joint for a year after Oblivion. The same thing happened with Mass Effect over the ending. More angst over Diablo 3. It’s happening all the freaking time these days, and yet the quality of the stuff we’re getting is consistently high. I remember the good old days when people voted with their wallet and didn’t whinge so much, it was much quieter… I should also point out to all those young hippies who think people power on the internet is all-rad: Bethesda faced a huge revolt from their loyal fanbase after they went in another direction with Oblivion -> look at the effect it had on Skyrim. Mass Effect faced a huge boycott over Mass Effect -> look at DA:O, in fact we were facing the ‘death of Bioware’ if you all recall. It's not even any sort of a phenomenon. It's the time and age we live in; nowadays everyone simply expects they're allowed to do everything on the internet, including spouting loads of incredible bullshit and the angry mob became a bunch of whiny kids, often arguing about the most ridiculous and redundant of matters. At least I tend to laugh a lot more often than I used to

I like how you said if astro would confirm dovac's lifestyle you'd believe him and back down. And when astro confirmed his lifestyle after actually staying at his house, you didn't believe him and refused to back down. Why are we even talking about this? How does his dietary habits and whether he's destitute or simply poor have anything to do with G-Senjou no Maou's steam release? Why do you not find prying into his personal life with such incredible detail inappropriate? This conversation is actually absurdly disrespectful and inappropriate and is actually making even me a little uncomfortable despite not having anything to do with anyone involved. This is ridiculous.

Those wacky Saudi Arabians flying their jets around.

Considering how much art already ends up on the cutting room floor, and quite a number of BGs are already cropped before they're entered into games, the situation shouldn't be much more of a shame than it already is. The decision to cut these was the company in question, the decision to crop them further was likewise, so all you're talking about is the degree of waste which means we start heading into pedantry. Definition - Upscale: To increase the resolution of. It can have a vaguer sort of meaning but when used in that way it can mean anything. Lastly... Doddler is cool, why would you dismiss his opinion so If you read this topic closely, I already proposed a way to solve the problem with cut-outs, which could be rather easily implemented in KAG engine (I assume they still use it). About upscale I do not know, if they do a mechanical upscale of the existing 800x600 arts then this is shame, if they have high-res arts and do crops from them - this is better, of course, but still shame as it is still cut-outs. Obv all this blablabla is useless, as SP would not listen and game is on Steam today, but... Who knows, maybe one day would be a re-release? Doddler... I have mixed feeling about this person. Same as dovac, I would say he was much better in prior days, when he was doing Grisaia for fans and posting things in the blog for tech things... So now it is hard to say, what his true feelings are - he have to eat, you know? and he have to do Grisaia 2 & 3, as I understand, for Sekai - and he himself changed, his work changed, the time involved into interaction with VN publishers changed...

I suggested this before to my sister, she completed only one route and switched all off, told "Booooooring and repetitive as hell". So seems not the best choice for first VN

Oh, I wouldn't buy a censored eroge on Steam. You're preaching to the choir there. Sekai Project is clearly focused on non-adult releases, which isn't where my interests lie. Yet they haven't abandoned eroge fans either. Maybe there will be an adult release eventually? I don't want censored games, so that issue is more important to me than some clumsily cropped CG. So the other guy got banned too? Jeez. If that's how they're treating people then perhaps Sekai Project doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. What is it with developers censoring criticism on Steam? Seems like a common theme recently. If it keeps up the Steam forums will be useless for objective discussion, since only pro-company opinions will be allowed. I heavily value free speech, and I'll personally boycott any company I feel is trying to suppress valid criticism just because it's bad for business. A veteran of VNDB was complaining that he didn't trust company forums because they had incomprehensible rules and censored dissent; I dismissed it as a bit alarmist at the time, but maybe he had a point. I've tended to hang out on company forums because they tend to attract interesting discussion and you get some insider info from employees, but Steam in particular is looking increasingly worthless as a community and forum for discussion.

Osu!Osu! nice to meet cha birdy~~~ so do u like trap? why u use an ostrich as a prof pic? do u prefer chicken breast or thigh? what is ur fav food? do u play kancolle?

Monster Girl Quest has a lot of femdom and it's an RPG/Visual Novel. It has the game over rape concept where if you lose, you are treated for some nice h-scenes. It's what I recommend if you want to dive into femdom/reverse rape (girl raping the guy) for the first time.

Okay, you're pretty much begging me to ask you at this point. Fine, I'll bite: What's the other band and why isn't it There Will Be Fireworks?

Welcome to fuwa Zophar-kun. Enjoy your stay ~ clannad <3 also don't have a moe but have a gif instead

I can see why you might think that, but I was simply saying to stick with the original and use the fan patch. Whether people legally import or torrent it is out of my hands. Importing would be ideal but no one is going to buy it just because I told them to, just being realistic about that. As for having to "beat" free fan translations: The fact is the torrent has been available for years, just taking that into account. If the official release is worse than the original that people could easily get for free, it gives them no reason to buy it. You're not gaining anything then, you're just losing out. Why waste your money in that case? From a business perspective it's just a bad way to make sales. If they even offered the original up without the widescreen and cropped cgs, or cut sex scenes, I would have no problem buying and supporting that. As it stands though there's just no reason to support or buy this release. It's incomplete. Like I said you can't expect sales out of sympathy or pity alone. If a more holistic version easily accessible, why should anyone go out of their way for less? I'd love to support this release because G-senjou no maou is a great title, but I don't think people are about to pay full price on a cut down release. While some may think I have this personal agenda, and am just hating on Sekai because I was banned, as I said earlier I'm not angry nor do I take it personally. I just think it's petty and disagree with their tactics. You saw the other post by Maou who was far more neutral than me and didn't even mention a fan patch, and he got perma banned too. We made these posts specifically to inform people, because we want everyone to have the best experience possible. If I was simply hate mongering and had no intentions of supporting these releases and was just going to pirate them anyways, do you really think I'd waste even a second on forums talking about it? I want them to do better, and I want them to give us a reason to support these titles so we don't have to resort to importing or piracy. Visual Novels are my life's passion, they can give us some of the most significant experiences, make us feel emotions we didn't even know we had, and help us through the darkest of times in our life. I want to share those experiences with as many people as possible. That's why it kills me when titles like this get cut down and treated the way they do. While a sex scene might seem like "useless porn" or "filler" some, it gives a strong insight into that character's personality you wouldn't have gotten to see otherwise. Every detail counts when you feel a strong attachment to something.

Never heard of CHVRCHES before, but after looking up a couple random songs on Youtube, they don't seem bad at all - though I admittedly have ridiculously wide (and/or bad, depending on who you ask) taste in music. At any rate, that makes two Scottish bands that I can call myself fond of. And malt vinegar only? I dunno, a little tabasco sauce can go a long way on pan fried potato wedges. Unless you're a weirdo like my father, who prefers tartar sauce of all things. That said, the welcomes are appreciated.

Mainly 4chan. Probably because 4chan represent the traditional, Eroge fanbase, and Dovac realising this fanbase consists mainly of pirates said 'fuck those people' and went looking for greener pastures. Not a popular decision, but a fairly logical business one. Yet they buy products too. Ignoring a group of 200 people because you can get 300 people elsewhere doesn't make sense when you can appeal to both and get 500.

VNs? Gaming? Anime? Feh. We want the real dirt, like how you feel about the new CHVRCHES album or why malt vinegar is the only thing that should ever touch a fried potato. Anyway, welcome to Fuwa.

Heya Dergonu! Welcome to the Fuwanovel Forums! Enjoy your stay here! :3

Hi Andreas

the guys on the other side sure are dumb, amirite guys

Hello and welcome! I hope you enjoy your stay on Fuwanovel

i do get worked up when someone tells me that buiseness btw potential boost of sales comes before reading experience, because if thats the case then piss off and sell cars, or whatever and not a medium that atually lives from its reading experience, furthermore calling me a purist, elitist or whatever overly-sentimental dude that hasnt understood the world he´s living in...

I think people are mainly upset by the lack and quality of sekai project's PR. It would be one thing if they responded that it was just out of their hands, but instead they tell people to shut their dirty whore mouths.

Having been deprived of her source of heat (me), the other sleepyhead squirmed about for a while, but soon pulled some blankets over herself and fell soundly asleep. Potentially "returned to her dreams" instead of "fell soundly asleep".

Finished both Al Fine routes last night.

Lol. Primo is giving a very abstract descriptions of what caused her to end up "here", completely using only onomatopoeias. W, well, I got *sfx being blown away* or something, *sfx being covered in mud*, *sfx being spun around*, and finally *sound of being pounded on the ground*, then found myself here. I... don't think I'm going to be able to give you a concrete sentence for this one, lol.

Do not fear, one of my many agents already redirected me here! I personally think we should appreciate the realism this game brings. The only possible reaction to a cute loli randomly destroying things through headbutts and kicks is to run and dance in your undies. I give this a liquid Would let the loli headbutt me all day long / no number is high enough to avoid being easily surpassed by this masterpiece. Silly Aaraon, this is the obvious and only logical evolution of Goat Simulator, not a parody! And with my job done: