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No, there's no fox girl in it to be right. And it's the VR one that way less people played.

God no, never read a Sakura game either I guess not many people here played the one I'm asking, but I'm sure 99% played the "thing before". It's that popular.

Eroge?

Your second one reminds me of Gantz

Aaah, I see! I really need to read Kindred Spirits, seems like a lovely game, it's on my backlog since forever... ^This, a hundred times over. Oh, thank you so much for such detailed response! I'll be more careful!

I also read some mangas that didn't use "seme" and "uke", but "tachi" and "neko" instead. It's pretty much the same thing tho.

Since you want, seme and uke comes from martial arts terms, taken from the verbs "to attack" and "to receive". Seke is just a portmanteau, to describe a character that goes both roles.

Yep!

"Let's forget about our Gundam for now, because I need to boost this idol's popularity on the internet!" "I swear it have a story, don't judge it by the OVA!" "It's the same thing as before, but now in VR in space!"

Hey, thanks for the input! I really... struggled with this word while writing, should I use, should I not? Like I said, I never saw a manga that with huge age gaps in yuri, so I didn't even have an example to check. I have limited knowledge in the field, so if you think it was inappropriate, please do tell me!

It wasn't, but I'll give you many creativity points! I'll let you win this time!

Yay! Seems fun! I think this one is... I try to make some too. A girl runs like she's training for a marathon while a guy keeps her safe with the power of mathematical expressions. A guy calls his online friends to talk how much he's afraid of the basic math lessons going on in his house. A guy spend so many routes sweet talking guys that in the end goes so full in the gay that ends up fucking himself.

Hi, ladies and gentlemen! Today, I bring you a bit of history and information about the origins of some BL related terms. Of course, I'm not the supreme autority in japanese BL culture, very far from that, in fact I did a lot of research for this post, so feel free to correct any mistakes, I would love to learn more about it! Let's start with the main one. What's Yaoi? In the west, is the most generic term to describe works that have romance and usually sex between two males. By now, you must have noticed that I never use this term, be it in this blog or around the forums. Why's that? Because it's a short for the expression "YAma nashi, Ochi nashi, Imi nashi" that roughly translates to "No climax, no ending, no meaning". Pretty much our classic "porn without plot". It was a term used by two manga artists in the '70s to dismiss poor quality doujinshis, and this was appropriated by early BL authors when the genre started to go beyond fanfiction of popular shounen series. Yeah, sure, the low quality and no plot parts are pretty much true for tons of male on male doujinshis I found around in the internet, but BL as a genre now is a lot more than just this! It's natural to distance itself of this old label now. Even if the fans accept it by learning how to laugh at themselves... I still prefer a serious label any day. Japanese sites that sells games and manga magazines all tag those works as BL now, so yaoi is way less used over there, except for refering to parody doujinshis and such. Here in the west, on the other hand, I see the term all the time used by either long time fans that didn't bother to switch out the term they got used to or by people outside the fanbase. Looking around here on Fuwanovel or VNDB, places where the bishoujoge fans far outnumbers the BL fans, like pretty much any other VN discussion place, I see the yaoi term being used quite a few times. Okay, in VNDB maybe it's because the tag is named like this and it could be too much unnecessary work to try to change it now, so they're forgiven for now. Now now. What if a work have romance between two guys but no sex? Yaoi was for porn without plot, but what should we call the works that don't have porn either? Are you guys familiar with the expression Shounen Ai? Here in the west, that's exactly how we call these kinds of work! Well, too bad it's not exactly right. You see, Shounen Ai was a term to describe manga that were inspired by tanbi literature. These stories (both Shounen Ai and tanbi) were about the pursuit of beauty in the form of romance between a older man and a pure and innocent younger one (read as: teens, late teens or young adults. Younger than this is shotacon), with flowery language and unusual kanji. Meaning, the term Shounen Ai in Japan actually refers to pederasty (and that means "love of boys" in greek). Sure, these manga didn't exactly have any porn in it either, but the association of "no porn" and this term was never a thing in Japan. And they don't even use this term anymore, since this is pretty much a dead type of manga style anyway, much like tanbi. They call everything BL and the rest of the tags that gives away if it have porn or not. But what about Bara? The even-more-niche gay romance works, usually created by gay men for a gay audience, full of very masculine guys? Are they also known by the name of BL in Japan, even if they are so different of their female oriented counterpart? No, they aren't called BL... and not Bara either. Bara probably comes from the name of a early popular gay magazine (that's not sold anymore) called Barazoku (translates to rose tribe). But that magazine didn't focus only in manga, it also contained news, short stories, interviews, pornographic pictures and even some space for personal advertisement to search for a romantic partner. It was the first gay magazine to be sold in popular bookshops of Japan, so that's maybe why the association was made. Hey, even BL was once called June, because that was the name of one of the earliest magazines for BL works! Well okay, that was some milestone, but guess japanese publishing industry don't use the association. So, what are more masculine guys romance games/manga called? Guess... ML, or Men's Love. Yep. Although, for manga, they also use Geikomi (as in gay comic). So yeah, if you ever want to look for this type of content in japanese sites, you know what you need to look for. Not BL, but still interesting to mention, maybe the origin of the Yuri term... was a column of Barazoku that tried to appeal for lesbian readers named Yurizoku no Heya (Lily tribe's room) back in the '70s. And yes, Shoujo Ai is used in a similar manner than Shounen Ai, to refer to works that deals with pedophilia (I never saw a yuri manga with a lolicon girl though... but I'm still a yuri noob, there's still much for me to see). Unlike all other BL terms though, Yuri is vastly used in Japan, but GL (or Girl's Love) sometimes pops up here and there. And now, to wrap things up, what's my opinion about all this terms mess? Frankly, I'm a bit torn... I really dislike the misuse of the terms, but how can little me do something to change such widespread terms in the west at this point? I'll also not even try to correct every single person that uses yaoi instead of BL, but now you know that it kinda annoys me a bit. The most important thing is that we can understand each other, even if we use different terms, but at least I tried to raise awareness so you don't embarrass yourself in your trip to Japan. Cheers!

Someone, please, just stooooooooooooooooop this series!!!!!!!

That was one fine quality thread.

Oh, I agree with you. I was actually just talking about every other girl in this thread that commented after me. Just make me a little lonely that we really doesn't have much discussion about porn for girls around here...

Every other girl focus on story and don't care for the porn, I feel so corrupted now for enjoying both......................... May some decency be bestowed upon me this year...

Hopefully, Mangagamer finishes Hashihime of the Old Book Town this year. This art is so dreamy For certain releases, there's Code Realize's fandisc in March by Aksys. Yay!

That's exactly what I did in that ending. Forgot the details and enjoyed the cute. Worth it.

Me too Oh yeah, the OP question! People already summoned me, twice even, so here I am. Straight girl, check. Play bishoujoge, check. But BL is so much better, there's more dicks in there XD

Oooooh, neat! But now I feel old, thanks Ranzo.

...You didn't do what I said. I told you have to check the red options, the ones on top: "Eliminate finite repetition..." and "Ignore finite cyclic repetition..." then click "Save". The options themselves have descriptions of what they do, that is to ignore the repetition, you didn't really read what was on that window, right...

Me in a nutshell.

There is a setting for this in VNR as well. It's the red options (image that I shamelessly took from another thread to use as example)