ok first off im not feeling sorry for my self at all, i had a blast helping make this, the thing is i know my limitations and at this point i just have nothing of use to add. i suck when it comes to editing, the research you say took seconds i put hours in to cuzz i didn't want a copy and paste job originally my definitions in the first section were larger had more material and even history behind the various types of games like the difference between sound novel and visual novel. this was fun for me i learned a crap load i didn't know. im not feeling sorry for my self over this. you my friend are reading me wrong. they cut my originals down because they needed to be trimmed for space and edited for readability.. im not good at this kinda thing . hell i even used for the adv games section a post between you and aaeru as a starting point to researching it. im not upset at you rook, sure your a bit of a jerk at times but frankly i like that about you it shows you speak your mind and don't pull punches just like im a bit of a pessimistic depressing ass when the mood strikes, it don't phase you when i feel that way and the remarks you made didn't phase me as to why i waited till now to reply is with the site going in and out for the last few days i didn't want to reply and have to do it again after a roll back deleted the post. im glad you read it and i take your criticisms for what they are, the opinion of some one who has been in this part of the otaku scene much longer then myself. as for if im done with this project of course not if there's anything i can do with out making things back slide i would be happy to do so i have no grammar or spelling skills to speak of so editing is pointless, the formatting does its self practically since its essentially just a detailed list so nose bleed who has knowledge of Google docs is doing that and the added items suggested were in others sections and i don't like stepping on toes.