sanahtlig Posted June 22, 2015 Author Posted June 22, 2015 Really, it seems that the pimary reason you guys want it up there is because it's interesting. If that's the case, I consider your reasons to be sucky. Why yes, that's why I consider the issue trivial. Just as I consider the argument over post deletion to be trivial. This entire thread was made purely for fun, and people have tried to derail it with personal attacks and pointless venom. That anyone would threaten to leave the site over this thread (or anything I say, really--I have no actual power!) is simply incomprehensible to me. I'm perfectly willing to drop the matter, even if others (who won't be named) aren't! Quote
Nayleen Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 ... even if others (who won't be named) aren't! And the better man would've left it at dropping the matter without that last jab. Please consider the web archive information the best you're going to get and move on, there's enough other stuff to parody. Quote
Darklord Rooke Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 I’d like to point out how amusing and realistic it is, that the thread reminiscing over Fuwa’s past even manages to capture the feeling of drama and angst which has always been a part of Fuwa’s make-up. It makes the sense of nostalgia all the stronger You can't talk about Fuwa's tribulations without speaking about how Fuwa alienated almost the entire Visual Novel community. I wonder where that fits on the timeline XD nohman, sanahtlig and FinalChaos 3 Quote
sanahtlig Posted June 22, 2015 Author Posted June 22, 2015 If we've managed to amuse Rooke, I consider the goal of this thread accomplished. Quote
Nosebleed Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 Just recalled one of the bigger events on Fuwa which lead to big policy changes, sponsored by yours truly solidbatman: http://forums.fuwanovel.net/topic/5388-request-removal-of-grisaia-and-planetarian-torrents/ Some theorists say that thread was the birth of all the salt we currently have on Fuwa today. Many big names dropped by, just like many big names left after the dust settled down. It truly was a battle of epic proportions. Muh torrentz Quote
Mr Poltroon Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 I’d like to point out how amusing and realistic it is, that the thread reminiscing over Fuwa’s past even manages to capture the feeling of drama and angst which has always been a part of Fuwa’s make-up. It makes the sense of nostalgia all the stronger From my point of view, you can't have Fuwa without derail. On that matter... Really classy. Was I called upon? Don't give a flying fuck about being classy. How dare you. ---- As for Batman, does the problem still persist if the post is put on the blog as an old post - as if it were there all along? Just as I cannot see any justifiable reason to not have it there if it affected absolutely nothing in regards to blog users, by the same logic, I don't see any reason to put it there if it's possible to mimic or access the original outside of the blog. It is not a new issue. Further discussion is not likely; one could say the proverbial horse has already perished. Meaning that this addition would only benefit the one in a million that will go snooping around the blog archives for no good reason and, apparently, sanahtlig. Assuming it is possible to access/mimic the original completely through other means, that is. Quote
Zakamutt Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 Ah yes, the grisaia torrents removal thing. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to talk about how exactly that got started . ...wait, the actual removal I mean. That thread wasn't the actual removal notice I think.. ah well. Quote
Nosebleed Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 That thread was what started a bunch of discussions regarding how we handle pirate links on the forum and it even led to Steve quitting as admin. It also sparked a huge debate on Fuwa's policies and motto. Some of the most impressive walls of text are in there. This is what people can do when you take their pr0nz away Quote
sanahtlig Posted June 23, 2015 Author Posted June 23, 2015 /topic/10673-fuwahistory-series-recounting-the-birth-and-tribulations-of-a-fuwa-nation/?p=303333">FuwaHistory Episode 6: The Fuwan Civil War - The Buccaneers' Last Stand at Grisaia One of my best pieces on the role of fan translation and the need to support official localization was in that thread. It was none other than solidbatman who prompted me to post there, as I'd originally intended to stay silent on the issue. Quote
Zalor Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 I'm with Sanahtlig on this one. Archiving and preserving Fuwa's history seems important to me. Some people may heavily disagree with Aaeru and view her leadership as a low point in this site's history, but we wouldn't be where we are now without her contributions. In many ways Aaeru did revolutionize the western VN community. She separated herself from other communities (notably TLwiki I believe) and started something new, and this site is a result of that something new. Understanding Fuwa's history is important in understanding how the broader western VN community has changed over time; at least in my view. The only reason you want it displayed is because you were a part of it. All I feel like I see you do is promote your stuff. You could care less about it being Fuwanovel's history. You simply want people to see that oen time you went toe to toe with the mighty stupid Aaeru and won. Your track record of always whining when something you want promoted doesn't display right proves that. I agree with other posters, this thread might as well be called sanahtligs Fuwa History. You honestly don't seem to know Sanahtlig very well if you're saying that. While Sanah does like promoting his content, he puts out content worth reading. Furthermore, he's been involved with the VN community for over a decade, making him plenty qualified to talk about the history of the western eroge industry as a whole, or just specifically about this site. He's one of the few people in this community who has been around for a long time, knows what he is talking about, and genuinely treats his passion seriously. If the cost for having such a valuable member is simply him self-promoting his work; than it's worth tolerating his justified desire for attention. nohman, Yuno-Gasai and sanahtlig 3 Quote
Kaguya Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 I'd like replies here to be polite and civil, please. It's fine to disagree over something, it's not fine to insult people directly. Everyone here is well aware of that. Quote
arakura Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 They're pretty civil. It was a callout that was well deserved. Quote
Stray Cat Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 Glad to see that even in recounting our history, we're keeping with the old-time fuwa tradition of full-fledged war. Tay, rainsismyfav and Happiness+ 3 Quote
Darklord Rooke Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 That thread was what started a bunch of discussions regarding how we handle pirate links on the forum and it even led to Steve quitting as admin. It was a fun thread :3 Quote
sanahtlig Posted June 23, 2015 Author Posted June 23, 2015 They're pretty civil. It was a callout that was well deserved. Kaguya's post was in response to a post by solidbatman that described explicit homosexual intercourse between participants in this thread. I reported it (because it was crude and uncalled for), and the post was subsequently removed. ...in case you were interested in context. solidbatman and Eclipsed 2 Quote
Eclipsed Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 And so, another entry was added to the Gospel of Fuwanovel titled, "The Birth of the Pretentious Academic Philosopher Duo" aka PAPD as a result of the War of Describing Explicit Homos- You get the idea. Beware, folks, or you will get PAPD'ed Quote
Eclipsed Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 Question: is there a timeline thread in existence somewhere regarding Fuwahistory? If not, once this thread gathers up a decent amount of history, I propose we make that timeline Quote
sanahtlig Posted June 23, 2015 Author Posted June 23, 2015 I started a Fuwa Timeline template in Google Docs. Add events in any order, using my entry regarding the Da capo 3 C&D as a guide. For the time being, only enter events that were significant moments in Fuwan history that would be worth recounting to new members. Enter a primary source url when available for further information on the subject. Events may be listed that aren't codified as "episodes". See the template source if you're curious how the timeline visual is generated (the visual is generated using html that can be hosted anywhere that supports html code). If someone wants to host the visual, we'll be able to see changes in real-time (and I could link it in the OP). Quote
Zalor Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 I am one warning point from a perma ban Kaguya's post was in response to a post by solidbatman that described explicit homosexual intercourse between participants in this thread. I reported it Wait... So does that mean Batman is banned now? I'll miss his presence and sarcasm. On a serious note. I feel Steve's resignation was an important event. With his resignation, the last loyal knight serving the old regime left; allowing Fuwa to move in a direction completely unhindered by previous ideologies. It was also a sad day for all Loli lovers on Fuwa. Quote
solidbatman Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 Wait... So does that mean Batman is banned now? I'll miss his presence and sarcasm. On a serious note. I feel Steve's resignation was an important event. With his resignation, the last loyal knight serving the old regime left; allowing Fuwa to move in a direction completely unhindered by previous ideologies. It was also a sad day for all Loli lovers on Fuwa. Not banned. Just decided I didn't care to see anymore (Nay edit: seriously? You did not just... I don't even...) ego stroking. Quote
Zakamutt Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 I think this thread is long past due for a massive post hiding operation... Quote
Nayleen Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 Edit: I swear to god bats... Nah, he's a repeat offender, but his last two warnings have been almost a year back, would be silly. We're forgiving like that. Sure, let's add Steve's resignation. Approximate reaction at that time: Quote
Zakamutt Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 His posts around that time sure were as text-wally as ever. I wonder if you'd call them salty though... Quote
solidbatman Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 Most of the real changed and history was made in the staff forums away from the eyes of the general forums. But those won't get songs of praise from anyone. Such as the First Great Loli War or the 2 hour chat I had with Steve to get him to post naked loli images in spoiler tags on threads outside of his loli threads. But nah, actual decisions that changed the course of the site are no place for this thread. Quote
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