What are you playing?

[Funyarinpa]

5 hours ago, Zenophilious said:

Spoilers

https://pastebin.com/DVdwjAqM

Welp.

,_,

I can see where some of its points come from.

Be warned y'all that there are spoilers for the whole game in there.

[Darklord Rooke]

5 hours ago, Zenophilious said:

Spoilers

https://pastebin.com/DVdwjAqM

That's a pretty compelling argument by Moogy :3

... just sayin'

[Funyarinpa]

12 minutes ago, Zenophilious said:

Sorry   I was going to add that in after I found the link and deleted all the non-relevant text from the post I was quoting, but I was on my phone and my break had just ended.  Added spoiler warnings to my post and all the quotes of my post.

Where is the full post? 

[Funyarinpa]

Just now, Zenophilious said:

That is moogy's full post.  I was talking about @Dreamysyu's post that I was quoting before.

I'm kinda half-awake right now, sorry if I'm being stupid  :-/

Oooh OK thanks

[kooolm]

Currently playing Little Busters Converted Edition on my PSP. Perhaps, it's finally the time to learn baseball rules...

[Fred the Barber]

5 hours ago, kooolm said:

Currently playing Little Busters Converted Edition on my PSP. Perhaps, it's finally the time to learn baseball rules...

No, you really don't need to know how baseball works to play Little Busters!. If anything, it'll just make things more confusing...

[Dreamysyu]

6 hours ago, Fred the Barber said:

No, you really don't need to know how baseball works to play Little Busters!. If anything, it'll just make things more confusing...

Lol. I remember I actually managed to win in it a few times when I was playing. I still don't understand how it happened.

[PapaRabbi]

Just started Kara no Shoujo, considering playing The House in Fata Morgana next.

[littleshogun]

Finishing Rimu's route at Deardrops (Will comment on it later), and about to start Kanade's route.

[granit]

On 2017. 05. 01. at 0:04 AM, Dreamysyu said:

To be honest, I wrote this point just several minutes after I finished that route, and maybe I overreacted a bit there. Anyway, it's not like it was entirely Himawari's point that I started to think about dropping VNs. It's more like, finding good VNs to read became a bit too difficult recently, and I'm not sure at what point it becomes just not worth it anymore. Like when I just started, I could just take a random high-rated VN often mentioned in reviews, and I was almost guarantied to like it, at least to some extend. For some reason, I managed to like VNs for that is good in them and almost completely overlook their flaws. There still were some VNs I didn't really like (mostly, less popular ones), but I always could just drop them at the very beginning and move to something else.

Then, at some point, about a year and a half ago, it just stopped. Suddenly, for almost every VN I played I could say "There were some great moments in it, but ... completely ruins it", or "I liked it overall, but there were some aspects that lowered my overall enjoyment quite a bit". For example, I liked very much how Ever 17 handled mystery, and I had very good time trying to add all things together. On the other hand, I couldn't care less for it's characters, and the final revelation turned out to be so little thought-out, that it dropped my overall mark by 2 points. It all got a bit tiring, and the thought that maybe my time with VNs is coming to its end started to appear in my mind from time to time.

Then for a few months I just didn't have enough free time to read VNs anymore. When I came back, I tried Fata Morgana, and suddenly I was engaged again. And though it wasn't perfect, I managed to overlook it's flaws and get the full enjoyment of the things it does right. The same thing with Pygmalion, though it's actually even more flawed than Fata Morgana (like, 20 times so). Then I tried Himawari, and suddenly I'm where I started. Overall, I can't say I hate it, or this is a bad VN. There are some things it does quite well, and the overall idea is quite good. Just, I cannot connect to the most characters, especially to the protagonist, and the number of plotholes makes it almost impossible to enjoy it to fullest extend. The worst part of it, though, is that I start to compare Himawari to some VNs I read earlier... and I don't see how they are better. It's not a very healthy thought, because it makes me wonder whether those VNs were actually as good as I remember, and maybe my tastes are just changing with time.

Maybe you're right @akaritan and I just need to stay away from VNs for some time. I'll probably try to get through some works in other media that I wanted to try. Anyway, thanks for your advice!

I'm stalling Himawari for an indefinite amount of time. I'm not dropping it, however. I still want to give it a second try, at some point of time. I had a single precedent when I suddenly started to like a VN long time after finishing it, even though I fully hated it the first time. I am still going to at least finish it, but I won't touch it at least before the middle of this summer.

And I'm sticking to VNs with good protagonists from now on.

Throw all expectations you have out the window, and you won't be so easily disappointed. When you first started it was exciting because you had no expectations and it was all new. (Taking a break helps too. )

Oh, and try to not score VNs. Scoring each of my VNs has made me almost always consciously aware of the good and bad points of a VN as I'm reading it, which means I can't just take it as I see it. Rather, I'm basically analyzing it as I'm reading it, which for me really can ruin the experience. 

[Funyarinpa]

Reading Higurashi's fifth Chapter, six chapters in and I love it so far.

edit: this is the mightiest "fuuuuck no" scenes probably in the whole series so far.

Spoiler

the fingernail removal... FUCK

 

Edited May 5, 2017 by Funyarinpa

[Vorathiel]

Reading Root Double.
I'm near the end of the second, B, route.
Jesus fucking christ, it's such a boring drag. I haven't felt so much repulsion when I start reading VN, since I read Girsaia 1, a year ago.
It's horribly written. Interesting ideas, nice first route, but other than that... horrible pacing, very boring and bland characters, and a lot of shitty, juvenile to the power of X plot progressions. Moe art only adds to that and not helps me get immersed in story at all.
SS system is terrible, and imposible to read without walkthrough. Abundance of boring flashbacks is a really bad story structure. Sometimes bland, and sometimes awfull ost is offputing as well.

Sigh. Still half of this VN before me. And everybody says that C/D routes are even more boring. ... argh. I don't want. But I must. I won't drop this title. Lord, have mercy.

[ChaosRaven]

5 hours ago, Vorathiel said:

Sigh. Still half of this VN before me. And everybody says that C/D routes are even more boring. ... argh. I don't want. But I must. I won't drop this title. Lord, have mercy.

Huh? I don't remember anyone claiming that routes C and D would be more boring than route B (That's barely possible anyway). 

I thought it would be common knowledge by now that route B is the big slough everyone has to wade through...

It definitely gets better afterwards, especially in D.

[Funyarinpa]

I think I'm just about the only person who enjoyed route B's calmer tone (although I didn't like the characters), even though I normally hate moege and SoL stuff lol.

Replaying Ever17, the Sora route of course. Someone ported the translation to the PSP version recently apparently so I pirated an ISO today and got to playing. I'd already started a replay on PC as the story starts on 05/01/2017, so it was an occasion.

The route and Sora are both as beautiful as I remember. I was afraid it would not hold up after reading many more VNs (E17 was my third VN ever after 999 and Virtue's Last Reward).

[Dreamysyu]

On 05.05.2017 at 10:41 PM, granit said:

Throw all expectations you have out the window, and you won't be so easily disappointed. When you first started it was exciting because you had no expectations and it was all new. (Taking a break helps too. )

Well, to be honest, it's a bit hard to do. I do try to be as open-minded as I can when I start things, but as long as I know at least something about a VN I try, there will still be some expectations, good or bad. I guess, maybe it just comes naturally when my expectations aren't met too many times. (edit: sorry)

On 05.05.2017 at 10:41 PM, granit said:

Oh, and try to not score VNs. Scoring each of my VNs has made me almost always consciously aware of the good and bad points of a VN as I'm reading it, which means I can't just take it as I see it. Rather, I'm basically analyzing it as I'm reading it, which for me really can ruin the experience.

Actually, it's works more or less in the opposite way for me. I like to analyze things I read, and it often helps me notice some good points about them I would've missed otherwise. And as long as there are many such good things in a VN, it's much easier to forgive its flaws. Also, the things I described started happening to me long after I created a vndb account and started rating VNs.

Edited May 8, 2017 by Dreamysyu

[Fred the Barber]

3 hours ago, Dreamysyu said:

...after being blown too many times

You forgot to say "away" again.

[Dreamysyu]

12 hours ago, Fred the Barber said:

You forgot to say "away" again.

Yeah, thanks for pointing out my mistake. I don't know where I got that phrase.  Well, I have little experience in expressing my thoughts in English, and fails like that are unavoidable.

Edit. By the way, "blown away" was not what I was try trying to say. More or less, the opposite.

Edited May 8, 2017 by Dreamysyu

[syfjhz22]

Going through 新妻LOVELY×CATION, but way too many program bugs so it's on hold right now.

I feel LOVELY×CATION 2 story and characters are more natural and real though, Yuki route of the new LC is still good but just a little bit unnatural...

I mean which logical adult would choose to marry a high school student no mater how much you love her, especially for her interest if you really care. If it's another game I probably won't mind about such setting, but this is a pretty realistic love simulation series where characters are supposed to be really nice people...

Edited May 8, 2017 by syfjhz22

[littleshogun]

Finishing Kanade's route at Deardrops, and will continuing to Riho obviously (It's the only route that I wasn't play yet).

[RadicalCarenChan]

Just finished rereading G Senjou no Maou. I lol'd at how the game manipulates you to bring out the twists sometimes.

I'm starting the Muv Luv series soon. I heard that while Extra and Unlimited aren't that good, they enhance the experience when you read Alternative. So I guess I'll read the first two first and see how it goes. My boredom resistance is not bad, so I can usually put up with anything that isn't utter shit. Hopefully the time investment will be worth it in the end.

[Zidan209]

Just started Grisaia no Kajitsu. The first thing i paid attention to are the emojis on fuwa. 

 

 

  

[Canicheslayer]

Uguu

Spoiler

I'm reading/playing Kanon, Mai's route. A good retro VN, for the moment

 

[Vorathiel]

Mai best girl, and second best route.

[Trickay]

Still reading Steins;Gate, which is  absolutely amazing but I cannot for the life of me get the ending I want through effort (which I find is normally possible with other VNs), the text choices must be completely cryptic!? I think I'll just resort to a route guide on the next run through. 😊

[Zidan209]

15 minutes ago, Trickay said:

Still reading Steins;Gate, which is  absolutely amazing but I cannot for the life of me get the ending I want through effort (which I find is normally possible with other VNs), the text choices must be completely cryptic!? I think I'll just resort to a route guide on the next run through. 😊

Steins;Gate is more like a kinetic novel. When the time comes, you just need to make one choice to get an ending. It works like that for 3 of the 6 endings