Why is Baldr Sky Dive not translated?

[jibzoiderz]

Baldr Sky Dive is one of the top VNs at VNDB. How come no ones translating it. 

Edited November 15, 2015 by jibzoiderz

[Yuuko]

Because no one wants to

[Maxel]

Once in a while someone create a topic like this, just to remind the others that Baldr isn't translated...

Anyway, amount of image editing+pure translation for this title(s) is huge... I said it once, I'll say it twice: "Everyday I cry inside cause Baldr is not translated" I hope that we'll at least have announcement of translation before 2018~~

So, please don't creaty more topics like this... it hurts bro.

[madvanced]

Because no one wants to

As always you're a paragon of wisdom doge. (´・ω・`)

[Kawasumi]

Because that you're not only translating a VN, you're translating a game with pictures, different gameplay systems and shit.

Im almost 100% sure that this will not be translated unless its getting localized by a company.

Also, im pretty sure I have heard that Giga has no intention of bringing their games overseas.

But hey, alicesoft even had their website blocked to the outside world like half a year ago or something, but new we're getting their games.

Edited November 15, 2015 by Kawasumi

[Narcosis]

And why is the sky blue?

[XReaper]

Baldr Sky Dive is one of the top VNs at VNDB. How come no ones translating it. 

• not confident enough to meet everyone´s expectations btw told by an editor to fuck off
• not willing to invest that much time needed for a huge undertaking like this one
• issues concerning the assembly of other like-minded people when planning to form a team
• getting screwed by technical shenanigans
• still shocked after realizing that baldr force is even better
• influenced by trump that foreign stuff is meant to be read by foreigners only
• its c&d baby!
• comes to hate the community who´s taking everything for granted
• believes some things need to stay untranslated to keep people motivated in learning japanese

[Okami]

Because there are tons of great untranslated VNs and nowhere near enough fan-translators to do them all, Balrd is just one of them.

 

True in Balrd case chances might actually be somewhat better then for other VNs as amaterasu translations did start working on it true it's currently on staled.

[Scorp]

All capable translators retired from fan scene (work as freelancers for publishers), so no one to do MEGABYTES of text and images, seems that's the only cause of this.

 

Because there are tons of great untranslated VNs and nowhere near enough fan-translators to do them all, Balrd is just one of them.

 

True in Balrd case chances might actually be somewhat better then for other VNs as amaterasu translations did start working on it true it's currently on staled.

Tons of great untranslated novels? Not listed in first top 100 on vndb? 

[Down]

Tons of great untranslated novels? Not listed in first top 100 on vndb? 

-Too few non-english players on vndb
-Untranslated VNs get their rates fucked up by 'CG-only' players
-Top-rated doesn't equate good, good doesn't mean it will be top-rated. Even the EGS top 100 won't give you all the good VNs.

[Decay]

One of the things about VNDB is that the rating you sort by is a bayesian average used to attempt to smooth out statistical anomalies. What this means is that when there are only few votes for a game, highly rated games will have their listed rating lowered, and lowly rated games will have it raised. The more votes there are, the less this happens. Since not many people vote on Japanese-only games, it's extremely hard for them to break into the top 100. 

So to use one example, Natsukumo Yururu is ranked #153 currently, but if you were to rank it only by its unadjusted average rating, it would actually be around #37. Of course, if you did that for all VNs, it would probably be much lower, but then a ton of other JP-only games would flood the top 100. 

[Scorp]

Seems would be nice to add also average rating in the listing then.

[sanahtlig]

Bayesian rating makes sense for rankings.  It makes less sense if you're looking for hidden gems or games that haven't gotten much buzz in the English community.  EGS doesn't use Bayesian ratings, and their rankings are very unreliable as a result, with 1 -5 vote doujin games making it into the top tiers.

Also, im pretty sure I have heard that Giga has no intention of bringing their games overseas.

There were negotiations with JAST about 6 years ago, but they fell through because the English release would've been mosaiced.  So no, GIGA was interested in the English market.

Edited November 15, 2015 by sanahtlig

[Deep Blue]

because the world is a cruel place and likes to tempt you with nice things that you cannot have unless you work your ass off. What I'm trying to say is.....

 are you ready to read this?

 Really ready?

LEARN JAPANESE

[Chronopolis]

Bayesian rating makes sense for rankings.  It makes less sense if you're looking for hidden gems or games that haven't gotten much buzz in the English community.  EGS doesn't use Bayesian ratings, and their rankings are very unreliable as a result, with 1 -5 vote doujin games making it into the top tiers.

Also, im pretty sure I have heard that Giga has no intention of bringing their games overseas.

There were negotiations with JAST about 6 years ago, but they fell through because the English release would've been mosaiced.  So no, GIGA was interested in the English market.

The threshold is just a bit high given the sample set. You could basiean weight up to a total of 5-10 votes instead of 50 votes.

Edit: err scratch that. What I'm trying to say is they could make the basiean scaling less strong, that is, stop affecting the scores of vns at 15 votes or so.

Edited November 16, 2015 by Chronopolis

[sanahtlig]

 The threshold is just a bit high given the sample set. You could basiean weight up to a total of 5-10 votes instead of 50 votes.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

I think VNDB's Bayesian ranking system uses 5 as the average to scale towards (when the title has few votes).  Perhaps it should use a true average, or even a tag-matched average, which would probably be higher than 5. 

[LightBladeNova]

Being an English-only pleb is suffering

[VirginSmasher]

Being an English-only pleb is suffering

I'm one of them and it is not fun knowing that there are a lot of awesome VNs out there that you can't read unless you put time into learning Japanese.

[Clephas]

Because if they do Dive 1, they'll be under huge pressure to do Dive 2?  Worse, they might be pressured to do Zero, lol.  Seriously, each of those games is big enough to burn out even the most enthusiastic of teams.

[minuore]

I keep thinking of Material Brave when Baldr is mentioned.

Understand that is it huge, thus on the journey to learn Japanese currently. Not sure how far I will go nor will I make it and return to read Baldr.

 

[Bolverk]

It would be so awesome if someone decided to make a translate only the first route in Baldr sky dive 1 and release it as a patch. Then stop translating. Such a massive troll it would be brilliant haha.

[Abyssal Monkey]

It would be so awesome if someone decided to make a translate only the first route in Baldr sky dive 1 and release it as a patch. Then stop translating. Such a massive troll it would be brilliant haha.

[Kawasumi]

It would be so awesome if someone decided to make a translate only the first route in Baldr sky dive 1 and release it as a patch. Then stop translating. Such a massive troll it would be brilliant haha.

I would translate Baldr force if I could and then refuse to translate the other games just because.

[Deep Blue]

so much work for just trolling 

[CryingWestern]

If I remember correctly, the last team to work on a translation for baldr got C&D'ed hard by GIGA.