Firemonk Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 34 minutes ago, Norleas said: He make ends that don't have the traditional "And they lived happily ever after", like in Hatsusaku that Reveal hidden contents In the true route the heroine sacrifice himself to save the mc from vanishing So mostly people are pissed because all the happy moments that they live with the heroine ends in a bitter note, but i like that to break the perfect world of happiness of vn universe, i really like the end of Nagisa for exemple. Pretty much... Quote
Vorathiel Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 That's great. Best route in Kanon was bittersweet like that. Kawasumi 1 Quote
Decay Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) I'm pretty sure Niijima isn't the scenario lead on this, Kai is. In the interview they conducted, Niijima also said that he'll be trying to keep things more in line with Key's style. Edited December 8, 2016 by Decay RedK 1 Quote
Kawasumi Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Norleas said: He make ends that don't have the traditional "And they lived happily ever after", like in Hatsusaku that Reveal hidden contents In the true route the heroine sacrifice himself to save the mc from vanishing So mostly people are pissed because all the happy moments that they live with the heroine ends in a bitter note, but i like that to break the perfect world of happiness of vn universe, i really like the end of Nagisa for exemple. oh, so people are pissed that he actually wants to put something intriguing and thoughtprovoking into his stories, im not surprised. Quote
Vorathiel Posted December 9, 2016 Posted December 9, 2016 Interview translated by reddit user jis33785:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GtQTEDpj3Fl8gkP9GQdI56VJYeDoaZrPIqm1HypWZds/edit Few details about setting, what was happening in Key when they started this, and that they are still developing routes, not even writing yet, so we should not expect this soon. Quote
Narcosis Posted December 9, 2016 Posted December 9, 2016 17 minutes ago, Vorathiel said: Interview translated by reddit user jis33785:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GtQTEDpj3Fl8gkP9GQdI56VJYeDoaZrPIqm1HypWZds/edit Few details about setting, what was happening in Key when they started this, and that they are still developing routes, not even writing yet, so we should not expect this soon. Literally, the game is in early pre-production state and they already release a teaser, lol. Based Key. 1 hour ago, Kawasumi said: oh, so people are pissed that he actually wants to put something intriguing and thoughtprovoking into his stories, im not surprised. Key fans, man. Kawasumi 1 Quote
RedK Posted December 9, 2016 Posted December 9, 2016 4 hours ago, Vorathiel said: Okay guys, who is Nijima Yuu and why are your reactions so...intense about him? The best utsuge writer. He's like the Cristopher Nolan of eroge. Quote
Benji Price Posted December 9, 2016 Posted December 9, 2016 10 hours ago, Firemonk said: I feel ya, in ten years I'm going to be approaching my thirties.... life sucks Lucky you... I-ll be near my fourties. At least with a decent jap lvl by that time (or so I hope) Quote
Soulless Watcher Posted December 9, 2016 Posted December 9, 2016 (edited) So basically from what we know so far, Key is making a visual novel........ fucking shocking . I thought they got into the pie making business. Edited December 9, 2016 by Soulless Watcher VLOCKUP 1 Quote
Fred the Barber Posted December 9, 2016 Posted December 9, 2016 Nijima Yuu on a Key game... huh. I'm honestly unsure what to think about Nijima Yuu writing something "more in line with Key's style", but I guess I'll just have to wait and see. RedK 1 Quote
Mr Poltroon Posted December 9, 2016 Posted December 9, 2016 Come on now, people. Surely you recognise the West doesn't have nearly enough good inconsequential romantic comedies? Don't do this to me Let them get away with their unfitting happily ever after. I cry enough as is without it ending badly. VLOCKUP 1 Quote
Yuuko Posted December 9, 2016 Posted December 9, 2016 (edited) Yuu-sama is the best choice to write actually funny everyday life unlike other Key games and still troll with it w Edited December 9, 2016 by Kiriririri Fred the Barber 1 Quote
MayoeruHitori Posted December 9, 2016 Posted December 9, 2016 I'm a fan of Niijima Yuu but I know he's controversial, and I blame it on producers giving him too much creative control. Hatsusaku obviously hit just the right note with people, and it will be up to Key to make sure that happens again here. Quote
Decay Posted December 9, 2016 Posted December 9, 2016 Well, again, it's worth pointing out that he's not the lead writer here. I think people are overreacting a tad. Quote
Okarin Posted December 9, 2016 Posted December 9, 2016 So, in short, utsuge we go. Also: Keyfag Army! Heave-ho! Quote
ratboi Posted December 9, 2016 Posted December 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Okarin said: So, in short, utsuge we go. Also: Keyfag Army! Heave-ho! KEYFAG FOR LIFE!!! Quote
MayoeruHitori Posted December 9, 2016 Posted December 9, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Decay said: Well, again, it's worth pointing out that he's not the lead writer here. I think people are overreacting a tad. I haven't read the article yet, but even if it says, "The story is something Kai came up with when he was 12 years old, has always wanted to bring to life, and will have full creative control over, while Niijima is just someone we hired out of pity after Koikake, who will be responsible for correcting typos" I'd still respond to this news with "Hatsusaku obviously hit just the right note with people, and it will be up to Key to make sure that happens again here." I care a lot about Niijima Yuu. But yeah, judgments to the effect of "Niijima Yuu is the new face of Key" are a bit premature. Edit: I've just read the article, and don't see where it says Niijima isn't the lead writer. Kai said that he and Niijima are the people who came up with the structural details of the story, working from the broader setting and key points and conclusion of the story which Maeda proposed; Hasama isn't mentioned there. Kai and Niijima talk about Niijima's prose, and Kai compliments him. Niijima also spends time talking about balancing his individual style with Key's style. In contrast, Hasama just talks about how thrilled he is to be working at Key. Although Kai is the director, I think that's just a job he naturally takes as an experienced employee of Key, and it doesn't mean he is writing the important parts. And Niijima's name is the first one listed under scenario writers, which is a spot I have seen associated with the lead writer. I wouldn't be surprised if the true route and much of the common route were written by Niijima. Edited December 9, 2016 by MayoeruHitori Quote
ChaosRaven Posted December 9, 2016 Posted December 9, 2016 I think before I start caring about the potential ending of the VN, I first want to know if the stuff BEFORE the ending is actually worth reading. Otherwise I couldn't care less. Judging by his previous works, Niijima Yuu seems to be a rather decent writer - you could do worse than having written Hatsusaku I think - so I don't really see it that negative. Some writers also possess the incredible brain power to recognize that visual novels allow for different endings, including good and bad ones. Who knows, maybe he can make everybody happy... or nobody. Okarin 1 Quote
Okarin Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 On 9/12/2016 at 7:49 PM, ChaosRaven said: Some writers also possess the incredible brain power to recognize that visual novels allow for different endings, including good and bad ones. Who knows, maybe he can make everybody happy... or nobody. Yeah, but the ending being good or bad depends on the general mood and motif of the novel. Hoshimemo's endings are happy, because the routes consist of the protag romancing your girl of choice and moving on from his past. I still have to try Yume and Mare though. But it's not a game where a tragic ending could fit. Quote
ChaosRaven Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Okarin said: Yeah, but the ending being good or bad depends on the general mood and motif of the novel. I'd agree with the latter statement but not really with the former. Since technically, the whole difference between the nakige and the utsuge genre is that the first has a comeback after the drama while the second doesn't. However, if the motif of a VN is to show you inevitable loss then it can make sense to only give you one bad ending. But even those two statements are awfully generalized since there's more than just black and white and there's also the infamous Japanese bitter-sweet ending. In general, the important thing is that an ending is believable and fitting regardless if it's a good or bad one, although even that can be a very subjective matter. Though I don't necessarily expect every ending to be greatness incarnate. I'm not necessarily opposed to 'cheap' good endings for people who just love their happy end, considering that for example the five gazillion bad endings of the Kara no Shojo series aren't all master pieces either (though KnS1 bad endings > KnS2 bad endings IMO). More important is that it at least 'has' good written endings. Quote
Okarin Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 There's considerable variety for each person to pick what he/she likes most. Another thing is that with Summer Pockets they'll have to deal with Key fans' expectations. But, as we have seen with Rewrite and Charlotte, Key can't remain always the same Key. Key making an utsuge can be a refreshing change, even if it pisses some people off (i. e. maybe there are people so keen on the nakige formula they can't stomach a heavy hitting ending, a la Narcissu). As for me, I feel that an utsuge needs a special mindset to tackle, and should be played with some caution. Because, damn, it can get very depressing. And I mean VERY. Quote
Satsuki Posted December 12, 2016 Author Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) It will probably become a discussion mess in the future so I made another thread for Key's 2nd annoucement - New Rewrite Project. Edited December 12, 2016 by Satsuki Quote
Satsuki Posted March 31, 2017 Author Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) Key announced their "World Advertise" project for Summer Pockets. So don't be surprised if you see a weeaboo Cessna flying in the sky~ http://key.visualarts.gr.jp/summer/cessna/ (Seriously though, I'm not even sure if this is real or not. Key has the habit of announcing both fake and real news on April Fools', so...) Actually I think it really is April Fools' Edited March 31, 2017 by Satsuki Quote
Tamaki Sakura Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) The first PV is out. Edited December 26, 2017 by Tamaki Sakura Dreamysyu and Eclipsed 2 Quote
Eclipsed Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 On 12/8/2016 at 2:29 AM, Nier said: None of the big older titles such as Rewrite+, Little Busters Perfect Edition, Angel Beat 1st beat have even been released yet either. Jeebus, i was wondering when Key would get on with something new after those remakes but they're not even done with those yet?? xD E: Wait that post was from last year l0l, but still ~~ 6/29's a nice release date(?), wonder how long it'll take for it to get TL'ed Quote
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