Okarin Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 The problem with moege is that they're pretty similar to one another. So if you've played a handful of them, the next will be less interesting. It depends heavily on the theme though (who wants to read about a bunch of ojou-samas and their antics? Well if that's your thing, you're in for a treat). Quote
EdwardWongHPTIV Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Okarin said: Don't get me wrong, I've dropped games, and I have games stalled, like Noble Works (I played Koichoco instead, and it was okay, Noble Works is just pretty insipid for me). If you don't like or enjoy the majority of the routes, either the game is bad or it isn't your thing. There are games like Period, with whopping 8 routes, that have filler routes, sadly. I consider this a mistake. Filler routes shouldn't exist. Eh? Isn't that kinda contrary to your stance on collecting them all?? Well not that we aren't all contrary at times when it comes to tastes. Personally it sometimes just comes down to timing. Like I can't read slice of life heavy stories/games one after another. I will literally want to gouge out my eyes. Gotta mix it up. Quote
Okarin Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 Just now, EdwardWongHPTIV said: Eh? Isn't that kinda contrary to your stance on collecting them all?? Some Pokémon need so much grinding that it's not worth it Quote
EdwardWongHPTIV Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 But unlike pokemon sometimes the grinding is the reward itself? *drumroll* Quote
Okarin Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, EdwardWongHPTIV said: But unlike pokemon sometimes the grinding is the reward itself? *drumroll* Well... there are some really boring routes out there. >.< The consolation is that you probably play them to unlock better ones. It's not my style to leave routes unplayed, but some deserve it. What usually happens is that when I'm into a route, I just figure "the heck, let's do it quickly and cleanly and never be bothered again with this [route]". Edited May 22, 2017 by Okarin Quote
EdwardWongHPTIV Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 There's always skipping thru it suppose. I wonder why I don't do that myself? Must be a M. Quote
Okarin Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 But it's strange. You don't go into a route expecting that it's terrible -unless you really hated that character in the common route. So, most often you play it expecting it gets good at any moment, and then BAM! it's over. Most routes however, tend to manage a minimum of interest but that doesn't mean they're memorable either. Most problems are at the ending, there are some jarring endings. Quote
EdwardWongHPTIV Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 I suppose there's that. Hindsight being 20/20. The expectation - "Surely it's not that bad and there'll be a twist?" Though it's honestly rare for a story to catch me off guard so expecting it to is wishful thinking. Oh well, damned if you do, damned if you don't. I guess in a way I should be glad for characters I absolutely hate. At least then I have a definite reason to not stick with the route. Quote
Night Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) The selling point of moeges (<--plural) is they are meant to be cute, slow and focus more on charming the reader than telling a story. Don't go searching for a seat edging, cliffhanging, tearjearking plot on one of them. @edit But hey, they are nice if you just want to sit back and have a good laugh after a hard day of work~ Edited May 22, 2017 by Night Quote
Nier Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 48 minutes ago, Night said: But hey, they are nice if you just want to sit back and have a good laugh after a hard day of work~ That's the thing, Hoshimemo doesn't even have the funny factor going for it unlike say Majikoi. Vorathiel 1 Quote
Yuuko Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 Hoshimemo's plot is just too deep for you gaijins to understand. Okarin 1 Quote
Nier Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Kiriririri said: Hoshimemo's plot is just too deep for you gaijins to understand. "Location: Finland" That goes for you too. Quote
Zakamutt Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 pls. He may be in Finlando, but he has already becum Japan itself. Okarin 1 Quote
EdwardWongHPTIV Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 I've sometimes wondered how easy it is to be a comedian in Japan. If slice of life Japanese fiction is any indication you could keep doing the same material... mostly. Seriously though the situational humor seems to be rehashed quite a bit. Thankfully it's not always the case. Though I admit I've been known to forgive this when I like the characters. Quote
Okarin Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) 53 minutes ago, EdwardWongHPTIV said: I've sometimes wondered how easy it is to be a comedian in Japan. If slice of life Japanese fiction is any indication you could keep doing the same material... mostly. Seriously though the situational humor seems to be rehashed quite a bit. Thankfully it's not always the case. Though I admit I've been known to forgive this when I like the characters. They're cliches. I don't know about the general Japanese humour, but slice of life in animu, manga and VN honours an age-old tradition, and it's rehashed a lot. Like the mandatory beach episode etc. It has been done for decades, and it stays because otaku (I guess) don't mind. I suppose. P.S. Hoshimemo should be better known by its drama. It's classified as a nakige, right? And every route has drama, good or bad. It's not even a flip-flop work, switching between drama and laughs like, say, Angel Beats. Once drama begins, it stays until it's resolved. Edited May 22, 2017 by Okarin Quote
EdwardWongHPTIV Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 You could also call them tropes. lol. Aren't you saying the same thing I just did? Well I suppose I didn't explicitly state that otaku were ok with it but I implied it. Well time will tell how I feel about this VN. Quote
Arcadeotic Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 This certainly is a good way to get into FAVORITE's catalogue, and I'd assume that the afterwork would be quite a step-up from Insem's, though I already played the game myself ages ago, so I'm certainly not interested in backing it, but as a quite sworn FAVORITE fan, I'll definitely be following it progressing. I also have to agree with Clephas with it being a rather good story-focused nakige, though those are rather subjective, in the first place. As an ending note, if you have the chance to, get the soundtrack of the game, it's quite up there as far as VN soundtracks go. Quote
Okarin Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 Yes, the soundtrack is good. And summer VNs are always nice, who doesn't want to spend the upcoming summer romancing these girls? One of my favourite pieces, this screams "summer" like no other: Quote
Night Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 Indeed, the OST of this game has one of the creepiest sheet music I have ever heared back then (at least, 2years ago) Then I remember I don't have the OST of this game yet and because of that I'll pledge... ...is what I want to do but $45 is just too much for me so I guess I'll be satisfied with this youtube version Quote
Barktooth Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Night said: creepiest You think that's creepy? I suppose it could seem that way if taken out of context, but when it played in the game, it gave me a more of a vibe of melancholic nostalgia. Anyway, it's nice to see my favorite VN to date get localized. Maybe I should re-read Eternal Heart if the goal is reached, as some of the action scenes and shrine maiden talk was rather confusing. Quote
Okarin Posted May 23, 2017 Posted May 23, 2017 In fact the background of Hoshimemo is pretty complex, but one of the causes is because it's never properly explained, and if it is it's conveyed in tidbits distributed among the routes. Quote
iamnoob Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 The reputation is that the fan translation was inaccurate..... Anyone who read the original can confirm with an example? I saw quite a few odd sentences but nothing severe but then again my Jap is very basic Quote
Chuee Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 7 hours ago, iamnoob said: The reputation is that the fan translation was inaccurate..... Anyone who read the original can confirm with an example? I saw quite a few odd sentences but nothing severe but then again my Jap is very basic Plenty of mistranslations littered throughout it. Just a few examples If you ignore girls in puberty you're going down the wrong path (not you, but they (the girl) will go down the wrong path) I waited for the moment Chinami would come down with glue all over her uniform (the MC's uniform not hers, and "glue" really just means starch on the uniform) Or if you want more here's a list one of the editors that got kicked off made while going through it https://pastebin.com/riMwPRnB Quote
Okarin Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 5 hours ago, Chuee said: If you ignore girls in puberty you're going down the wrong path (not you, but they (the girl) will go down the wrong path) Ugh, that's a pretty heavy mistake there. It shifts the responsibility for "going down the wrong path" from the girl to the boy. More in line with Western trend, I guess Quote
exaccuss Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 Will definitely be getting this game again. Mainly for Kosame lol. Quote
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