A sky Full of stars. Recomended?

[MarcomiX]

Hi there!
I noticed that moenovel translated A sky full of stars. Do you recomend it? It talks about dramatic and "heavy" stuffs or it's a refreshing experience?
I mean...if the "drama" is similar to the one in Kono Oozora, I think I can handle it XD

[Silvz]

Beware many will come here and say you shouldn't because Moenovel sucks. However, you shoulld look into it and if you are interested, it seems to be a good read. If you have the time and interest, you should totally go for it

[MarcomiX]

Just now, Silvz said:

Beware many will come here and say you shouldn't because Moenovel sucks. However, you shoulld look into it and if you are interested, it seems to be a good read. If you have the time and interest, you should totally go for it

I know that MoeNovel sucks...but it's either this or nothing, for now XD

[Silvz]

So try it! It is probably a great title if you don't care about the company and all

[DG-X]

I'm really wondering on the quality of the translation. After how inconsistent the translation of IMHHW was, I'm not sure I would buy from Moenovel again. But I did still enjoy IMHHW a lot, but especially Ageha's route was a confusing nightmare. And there were typos everywhere in that game. They did 0 QC... And then theres the fact that they've cut the 18+ content, which on its own isn't a huge deal (see Sekai Project's steam releases) but they also have no plans to Ever release a patch, which is the real problem...

[Plk_Lesiak]

I've looked through Steam reviews and it seems the Steam version is ok - obviously it has no h-scenes, but it doesn't seem to be censored in absurd ways like IMHHW and what people compained about when it goes to translation felt like rather minor things to me.

So, the localization should be totally serviceable, even if far from perfect. Unless you want to boycott Moenovel over cut 18+ scenes, it looks like a good deal and I have little doubt that the game itself is worth it, I will surely grab it at some point.

[littleshogun]

Pulltop shenanigan in regard of censoring 18+ content aside, I think Miagete itself was pretty good VN even without H scenes because it's more story driven VN, and apparently the sex scenes was more likely just usual vanilla one so it might be not interesting - but that doesn't mean that Pulltop could cut the H scenes, okay. Other than that, I think you perhaps better be careful in regard of the drama namely that there'll be love triangle in two of four routes (Saya and Hikari, coincidentally the main heroines of Miagete), so perhaps you might consider that fact before decided to play Miagete. If you decided to play that then have fun and I would say that you better pirate that, so Pulltop learned their lesson to not censoring 18+ content for overseas release anymore (Sorry).

Edited December 23, 2017 by littleshogun

[Clephas]

 

[Okami]

11 hours ago, MarcomiX said:

I know that MoeNovel sucks...

MoeNovel is a best company! It's an only decent company that cares about actual fans who actually likes VNs and not about perverts who only see VNs as fap material. They have my full support and respect for not going for easy money by giving perverts their fix and ruining a VN with H-scenes crap but instead sticking only to a fixed (all-ages) versions.

We need more companies like them!

[MarcomiX]

17 hours ago, Okami said:

MoeNovel is a best company! It's an only decent company that cares about actual fans who actually likes VNs and not about perverts who only see VNs as fap material. They have my full support and respect for not going for easy money by giving perverts their fix and ruining a VN with H-scenes crap but instead sticking only to a fixed (all-ages) versions.

We need more companies like them!

The fact that they remove the H stuffs from the VNs is not the problem! (I personally am against the excessive amount of fap materials in a vn....) The problem is that they f*ck up the translation! Even during the most important moments!
You want an example?

Kono Oozora.
Aoi and Kotori on the glider

MoeNovel version: "YOU ALL came and fixed it for me"

Correct version: "YOU came and fixed it for me"

As you can see, the sentece has got a different subject. (and this was one of the most important parts in Kotori's route route)

 

22 hours ago, littleshogun said:

Other than that, I think you perhaps better be careful in regard of the drama namely that there'll be love triangle in two of four routes (Saya and Hikari, coincidentally the main heroines of Miagete), so perhaps you might consider that fact before decided to play Miagete.

That's the only thing I need to know! Thanks! You avoided me a severe headache!

Edited December 23, 2017 by MarcomiX

[Okami]

19 minutes ago, MarcomiX said:

The fact that they remove the H stuffs from the VNs is not the problem! (I personally am against the excessive amount of fap materials in a vn....) The problem is that they f*ck up the translation! Even during the most important moments!
You want an example?

Kono Oozora.
Aoi and Kotori on the glider

MoeNovel version: "YOU ALL came and fixed it for me"

Correct version: "YOU came and fixed it for me"

As you can see, the sentece has got a different subject. (and this was one of the most important parts in Kotori's route route)

You say the problem isn't in them removing H-scenes but that is what 9/10 people complain about, they just try to dig up other things as well and then heavily exaggerate them to try to make situation look worse then it is and I could bet my life on it that there would be no all those complains and fuss if they ware releasing 18+ version.

I mean just look at translation of all those big(er) JRPGs like Hyper-dimension or Agarest series for example, their translation are 100 times worse, it's harder to find a line translated correctly then incorrectly in them and sometimes translation doesn't even resable to what is being said and yet nobody is complain about them (Oh wait there was actually a fuss about one Agarest game..... But it was fully about removing of 2-3 fan service CGs), Yet people everywhere raise a fuss over a couple lines being somewhat off in Kono Oozora? Not to mention that there is no proof to believe that such mistakes will repeat.

Yet only some mistakes in only one of their VNs is enough to go around complain about it  for over 4 years and trying to destroy a company?

Let's face it, most complains are just perverts rising a fuss over not getting more porn.

 

[MarcomiX]

I agree that most of the users complains about the absence of porn materials....and I'm okay with a non-perfect translation, grammatical-wise...

1 minute ago, Okami said:

Yet people everywhere raise a fuss over a couple lines being somewhat off in Kono Oozora? Not to mention that there is no proof to believe that such mistakes will repeat.

But that's not something like "a couple lines"...the example that I brought was a VERY important part during the Kotori's route! I might say, the most important one!
Moreover, as far as I know, all the other routes faced a worse destiny...(not that I care that much about the other routes, tho)

P.S.: Sorry for the OT
 

[Okami]

35 minutes ago, MarcomiX said:

I agree that most of the users complains about the absence of porn materials....and I'm okay with a non-perfect translation, grammatical-wise...

But that's not something like "a couple lines"...the example that I brought was a VERY important part during the Kotori's route! I might say, the most important one!
Moreover, as far as I know, all the other routes faced a worse destiny...(not that I care that much about the other routes, tho)

P.S.: Sorry for the OT
 

while I get that it's bad I don't think it is THAT bad to justify all the hate, honestly I don't even remember that specific mistake, but I guess on this matter we can only agree that we disagree.

Yea sorry for off topic, I wasn't even planing on posting anything, I haven't posted anything here in like 2 years or so, but I was triggered by perverts attacking Moenovel for luck of porn and couldn't let it pass without saying anything.

[exaccuss]

I just finished all the routes a few minutes ago. I think for the its price, it is worth it. It's nothing special, but for a currently all ages vn, you should get some sort of enjoyment out of it.

[MarcomiX]

3 hours ago, exaccuss said:

I just finished all the routes a few minutes ago. I think for the its price, it is worth it. It's nothing special, but for a currently all ages vn, you should get some sort of enjoyment out of it.

I doubt I'll ever play it. The only thing that pissed me off of Princess Evangile was the love triangle. And it seems that there is a similar situation in A sky full of stars. So, I'll give it a pass. For now, at least.

[Stormwolf]

Well, im playing this now and everyone is talking about how good hikari is. Is she really? She's almost never shown any actual affection towards protag, we've had not one, but two botched and lukewarm reuinions with her, she seems to push saya on protag instead. Well, shes definitely also more into saya at this point so i do wonder how she can suddenly become amazing.

Well, anything can happen i guess but im not holding my breath at this point.

Protag, while i like his personality somewhat, he does kind of take a backseat way too often when stuff is happening. Truly a shame.

Edited October 3, 2018 by Stormwolf

[MarcomiX]

On 3/10/2018 at 7:04 PM, Stormwolf said:

Well, im playing this now and everyone is talking about how good hikari is. Is she really? She's almost never shown any actual affection towards protag, we've had not one, but two botched and lukewarm reuinions with her, she seems to push saya on protag instead. Well, shes definitely also more into saya at this point so i do wonder how she can suddenly become amazing.

Well, anything can happen i guess but im not holding my breath at this point.

Protag, while i like his personality somewhat, he does kind of take a backseat way too often when stuff is happening. Truly a shame.

I Totally agree with you. Hikari, although it SHOULD be the main heroine, feels more like she wants to be the MC's best friend rather than his girlfriend.
I'm playing it right now and, well....for my first route, I'm going with Saya. Dunno if I'll ever do Hikari and Korona's routes, although they have been heavily reccomended.

[Stormwolf]

Hikari's would be better with the h scenes as they would actually remind us that they are a couple and not just friends. Finish it though. I cant remember the last vn route i read which ended as good as hikari's. Truly amazing.

 

[adamstan]

15 minutes ago, Stormwolf said:

they would actually remind us that they are a couple and not just friends

Nah, with how most of the scenes are, they would just show us "friends with benefits" If you cannot perceive their relationship as love, just adding porn won't fix it. Especially since this route even in +17 version heavily hints about them having sex at least twice, just without explicitly showing it.

Also, this sentence probably hinted to me why we perceived the routes in +17 version so differently. For me teenagers relationship without fucking is perfectly normal, although I'm aware that's not popular opinion That's why I genuinely liked +17 Saya's route more than the version with H.

And, to @MarcomiX - I definitely recommend finishing Hikari's route too. The ending is absolutely beautiful and compensates for any shortcomings this route may have.

Edited October 15, 2018 by adamstan

[Stormwolf]

Just now, adamstan said:

Nah, with how most of the scenes are, they would just show us "friends with benefits" If you cannot perceive their relationship as love, just adding porn won't fix it. Especially since this route even in +17 version heavily hints about them having sex at least twice, just without explicitly showing it.

Also, this sentence probably hinted to me why we perceived the routes in +17 version so differently. For me teenagers relationship without fucking is perfectly normal, although I'm aware that's not popular opinion That's why I genuinely liked +17 Saya's route more than the version with H.

They never "heavily" implied anything though. Goofy scenes where h scenes were supposed to be.

[adamstan]

7 minutes ago, Stormwolf said:

They never "heavily" implied anything though. Goofy scenes where h scenes were supposed to be.

I have to disagree. For me

Spoiler

"I want to stay with you until morning" after the train "kissing" scene implies that they did it. And second time, in Akito's room, when Hikari straddles him, and before screen goes black says "If you say that I'm heavy, I'll hit you".

They didn't show anything, but both those situations clearly hint that they do it IMO.

I have to agree, it would have been even better if they added some cuddling in the next morning or sth like that, but as we discussed it already - +18 version lacks such scenes too.

 

But I think we have to agree to disagree here, so I quit now

Edited October 15, 2018 by adamstan

[MarcomiX]

38 minutes ago, Stormwolf said:

Hikari's would be better with the h scenes as they would actually remind us that they are a couple and not just friends. Finish it though. I cant remember the last vn route i read which ended as good as hikari's. Truly amazing.

 

I'm more interest in Orihime TBH...Hikari and Korona don't quite pick my interest as much as Saya and Orihime do

[adamstan]

Saya's route is good. Unfortunately Orihime and Korona both suffer from having different writer, and feel more like "side routes". They have some good moments, but IMO overally were weaker than Saya's and Hikari's.