Sekai Project Official Grisaia Translation?

[RinXD]

thats not the point im trying to make the point is there is no info on weather there will be a seperate kickstarter for the 18+ version cause i really dont wanna pay for both sets

[kyrt]

Actually sekai project has said that if the kickstarter is a success the 18+ version will follow it just might be a few months later. Go to sekai projects forum or dig through their twitter and tumblr posts...2 different people seem to have mentioned it so it seems more or less assured if the kickstarter succeeds. The fact they want to keep this current kickstarter away from the 18+ version explains why there is no mention of it on the kickstarter page. Regardless I'm going to back was originally going to back 500 but uh that's probably not going to happen...I'll probably just get all 3 games and call it done.

 

Unfortunately the fact that they have adult content as backer tier rewards just goes to show that they seem to have no problem associating their product with adult content which means that it was probably done for other reasons. Still I want to support visual novels in the west so I'm going to back. 

 

As for paying for both sets you probably will have to. to be honest they are offering all 3 games for cheaper than they initially were going to in the prefundia...they lowered it by half...probably because of the decision to separate the two versions. You will be spending a bit more but it's not a whole lot more than it would have been. If they offer a discount or voucher it might be cheaper than they were initially going to ask.

[Kara]

20 minutes and 20 percent, this is going well.

[RinXD]

160 dollars dosent seem worth it too me thats computer upgrades or half a XBOX one or wii u

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While we cannot comment on 18+ versions of the game right now, more information on that will be made available near the end of the campaign.

 

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So people who want dem 18+ might want to wait the end of the campaign to choose what to back.

[RinXD]

So basicly if they say shit about 18+ version frontwing might throw a fit right now

[BookwormOtaku]

I've put down 180 bucks, farewell upcoming Christmas money , I sadly won't be going any higher unless before the kickstarter ends I either get a better paying job or win the lottery which are about equally likely

[RinXD]

I wont be putting anything down if I have to fund a 18+ version to get it

[Satsuki]

If everyone thinks like you then the chance of getting the 18+ ver will be 0% you know?

[RinXD]

A lot of people are still skeptical to back cause there has been no information about the 18+ version at all and that tweet makes people even more skeptical

[kyrt]

Not sure if this is good news or bad news 

 

"While we cannot comment on 18+ versions of the game right now, more information on that will be made available near the end of the campaign."

 

Also it seems this kickstarter project has a 310 dollar backer reward of a bedsheet of yumiko that seems to be unclothed with a length of 145 cm by 185 cm (or 4'9 by 5'6) and also an exclusive. I've been looking and this might actually be specific to this kickstarter...although I could easily be wrong. 

 

I also wish to take note that the dakimakura (or whatevers) the pillow cases can be added onto a backing for 110 dollars if you do not wish to pay 420...however you lose out on the bedsheet.

 

Also the OST is available for the second backing tier or after spending 180 dollars.

 

also the fact the 18+ pillowcases and bedsheets means Frontwing is not opposed to releasing such content in the west and that the separation may have actually been do to licensing issues between products. Despite the fact that the game is coming from the vita version there are possibly minor intricacies in the business dealings that we are not currently aware...or it could be a cash grab...but even then it wouldn't be that much more in comparison to the initial amounts...

 

You can also choose the pillowcase if you back that much. It does not say anything about censoring any content at this time from the vita version (I read through the entire thing). If you want to back now great if you want to wait and see what they say near the end that's people's choice. If you don't want to back due to the way this was handled perfectly understandable as well. 

 

Do remember that if the kickstarter does not succeed anyone backing gets their money back. 

 

I'm going to take a chance with this but it could go either way...even if we don't get the 18+ version it won't be that difficult to find someone to translate and insert them back into the game via a fan patch. At this point in time I'm willing to risk it. My only dilemma is whether I want a yumiko bedsheet and an pillow cover...which I'll admit I usually find unnecessary and uninteresting but if I'm going to put a decent amount down anyways might be worth getting something out of it.

[RinXD]

That's the part that has me hesitant kryt

[RinXD]

that's exactly how i feel zeno why would i pay for 2 sets of the game when i only want one and on top of that with sekai being very tight lipped about the 18+ version

 

Edit: though there is this https://twitter.com/Denpasoft_pr

[RinXD]

well thats 46 days from now sadly cause they said towards the end of the campaign and i have a ominous feeling there wont be a 18+ version

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well thats 46 days from now sadly cause they said towards the end of the campaign and i have a ominous feeling there wont be a 18+ version

You just literally posted a tweet that totally not heavily implies that there will indeed be an 18+ version by totally not SP proxy denpasoft.

[RinXD]

its not valid until they come out and SAY hey 18+ version is a go until then it could just be them teasing/trolling

[sanahtlig]

My current plan is to buy the 18+ version of Grisaia no Kaijutsu if and when it releases.  I set a higher bar for Kickstarter funding requests vs. purchases and preorders, and Sekai Project hasn't even met the bar for a preorder.  Sekai Project is basically asking us to make a downpayment on a precursor product, then charge an unspecified price down the road on the finished product.  Sorry, no.

[RinXD]

I agree its like buying the Ps3 version of a game just to pay 10 dollars for the ps4 version when it launches

[greenshadow622]

I have to agree, I'm not supporting it for the same reason. But my god, look at all that money they've already had pledged! Them's some big numbers!

[RinXD]

except we still got 46 days until we hear anything about the 18+ version

[greenshadow622]

If this version gets funded, I doubt they'll withhold the 18+ version.

[kyrt]

Now I did say that it might just be a cash grab but you also have to understand that visual novels are not exactly well known in the west. Frontwing is new to the market. In a way look at it like this: the all ages/M-rated version is capable of being sold through multiple storefronts (primarily and hopefully they want Steam) where they (Front Wing) are guaranteed a greater return on their product. They can then release the 18+ version to the existing fanbase without the majority of casual users passing on it since it wasn't made available on a gaming/service platform they were a part of. But wait what does that have to do with getting it sold on steam? Well one nearly look at steam and their history with other games regarding sexual content. I take in point the game Seduce Me that was greenlit on steam and then removed for objectionable content. Steam has since gotten a slightly less strict policy on games on steam (sakura spirit for example) but even then they are weary. Too much of something they consider bad and they can lose their userbase. If Frontwing did any research on steam they would have found out Steam has a strict policy on any game containing sexual content in a pornographic way and that a game associated with another version of the game with minor differences would still not be allowed. Steam has since however come around with the recent upcoming release of huniepop, mangagamer's overdrive, sakura spirit, and sunrider they've become more lax. Frontwing probably does not yet know this as they are a japanese company and probably are not overly privy to more recent events. Currently there is no large/widely used gaming service available on the internet used by the general populace to download and play games with 18+ content (outside of DL) and thus it makes proper-ish business sense to release the M-rated version into a unknown and new market first. 

 

By doing this Frontwing is able to gauge the reaction of the general public not just the 18+ fans. It allows them to experiment and see what works and what doesn't and what the initial reaction is to that type of game. If the 18+ version is not out when the game is initially released then it won't be given flak or criticisms for the adult content because people tend to not look back at games outside the initial release. This is a new market for them and honestly this is a bit of an experiment. In the end I believe the success of this version has a very high chance of seeing an uncut and 18+ version later or at least open in the future. The way that they do this might also be a proper method for other visual novel companies hesitant on releasing their game and getting initial bad press to actually take a risk by doing the same thing.

 

I at least hope this is the case. There is always the possibility of such a thing not coming to fruition (ha ha puns) but honestly I'll maintain optimism (something I never do) as I think the success of this could be nothing but good news for visual novel fans in general. 

 

I will admit however that I still think making goal is going to be a tough fight. I mean sure they might be at 66,000 thousand right now but they still need 94,000 admittedly almost half is good. I fear though that all the people interested will donate halfway and thus it will miss it because of the hesitation and again that is Frontwing's fault for not making everything clear. 

 

In regards to the most recent tweet by Denpa: Looks like Grisaia's off to a good start. Wish we could do something about that 18+ version though...

 

I am going to take this as good news and hinting that Denpa is going to be behind the 18+ release but one could also read it as a hint by Denpa that the 18+ isn't coming from them. I find that very unlikely because they posted it in their recently made 18+ off shoot company and it seems very likely that they would have no reason to post that unless they did indeed plan to do something about it.

It's quite possible that they will reveal it midway through...perhaps Frontwing themselves didn't think it would do that good and so didn't want to put money towards a project that potentially wouldn't derive them profit. I said it above but Frontwing is new to this market it is quite possible they are experimenting and taking notes. Hell if I owned a business and was about to enter into a new venue I would do the same thing. 

 

Considering koetsl is the translator I also completely believe that if the 18+ version had no chance of happening then we would know. 

 

Again I don't know how many of you looked at the initial prefundia page but originally it was going to be 80 dollars per game and that got switched twice once to 60 and then with the kickstarter finally down to 40. People were perfectly happy to pay 80 per game when if first went up but not that the price is lower they refuse. Hell if they sold the game at the same price it would still be about what they predicted. They didn't begin changing the prices until stuff began happening on the other hand and then possibly with new knowledge began lowering the price and eventually cut in half knowing that people might have to pay separately for the 18+ version it ends up being about the same amount. 

 

Again I'm going to support it but I am definitely being more of an optimist than I usually am and I completely understand why people are hesitant about this. Hell I was probably the first person to begin voicing dissent about the upcoming changes and hell I might be one of the people to bring the changes to attention. I was definitely not happy in the beginning about this and even now I'm still annoyed but I'm going to be giving it a chance. If this falls through and other promises aren't made then this will probably be the last kickstarter I will do. All it takes is for one to go bad for trust in all of them to be shaken. Even now it is salvageable if it succeeds and they release an 18+ one after and possibly with a discount or free voucher. I imagine the free voucher probably would only go to those who back a certain amount while the rest would end up getting a discount. At least that's probably how I would do it in this situation.

 

The 18+ version will be discussed as soon as goal is reached. 

 

woo another long post basically reiterating crap I've said previously woot.

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[greenshadow622]

 

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[RinXD]

Dont lie you copy and pasted most of it and all I was saying was i wont believe it tell its concrete confirmed