Darklord Rooke Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Now here's a fella with a good set of priorities Quote
AlexZandria Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 And what about that i prefer story, art, character and relationship developpement and main char voice acting over H-content (not that i mind it, but not my N°1 priority) ? Quote
sanahtlig Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 I've seen people on the localization forums say they're interested in short games with H-content because they're working age with families, busy, and don't have much time for anything else. Quote
kratoscar2008 Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 And what about that i prefer story, art, character and relationship developpement and main char voice acting over H-content (not that i mind it, but not my N°1 priority) ?  Story is overreated, art is pretty important, relationship development okay, MC VA why are you even reading VNs?  The only real reason the genre is alive is because of H so that should be companies #1 priority and it seems consumers as well, thats why Nukiges are the best. Quote
Satsuki Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Story is overreated, art is pretty important, relationship development okay, MC VA why are you even reading VNs? Â The only real reason the genre is alive is because of H so that should be companies #1 priority and it seems consumers as well, thats why Nukiges are the best. If H is the only reason, then you might as well go watch H and porn, and leave VN alone. It's "visual NOVEL", not "visual PORN". Quote
kratoscar2008 Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 If H is the only reason, then you might as well go watch H and porn, and leave VN alone. It's "visual NOVEL", not "visual PORN". Â Visual Novels in japan is porn, why do you think all ages there gets crushed? In porn you watch someone fucking, in VN you are the one fucking. Character development and all that jazz is just a mean to an end: H. Remove H and you kill the genre forever. Â Only console VNs can have all ages VNs doing well. Quote
Satsuki Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Visual Novels in japan is porn, why do you think all ages there gets crushed? In porn you watch someone fucking, in VN you are the one fucking. Character development and all that jazz is just a mean to an end: H. Remove H and you kill the genre forever. Â Only console VNs can have all ages VNs doing well. Quote
OriginalRen Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Story is overreated, art is pretty important, relationship development okay, MC VA why are you even reading VNs? Â The only real reason the genre is alive is because of H so that should be companies #1 priority and it seems consumers as well, thats why Nukiges are the best. Vokoca and Zakamutt 2 Quote
LinovaA Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 How many people rated Key VN highly because of H, you think? 0. And yes, they are still doing plenty well. Quote
Down Posted March 11, 2015 Author Posted March 11, 2015 At everyone: please keep the tone civil and stay constructive. Quote
kratoscar2008 Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 How many people rated Key VN highly because of H, you think? 0. And yes, they are still doing plenty well. Quote
OriginalRen Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Everyone knows who Key is, their name is what keeps them afloat (Besides even them release H after a while like half their games). Type Moon as well or Fate i guess. In general VNs are just another form of porn and thus H is the most important aspect. You can have all the character development you want but if it doesnt lead to H is pointless. I guess is diferent in the west but the west doesnt matter (O its not for japanese devs as a whole). Â Thats why Nukige companies can put out many games and still make profit (Like say BISHOP that puts at least two games a year for much success). Â Anyways prioities might differ but H by far is the most important one for their most important market. Quote
Satsuki Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Everyone knows who Key is, their name is what keeps them afloat (Besides even them release H after a while like half their games). Type Moon as well or Fate i guess. In general VNs are just another form of porn and thus H is the most important aspect. You can have all the character development you want but if it doesnt lead to H is pointless. I guess is diferent in the west but the west doesnt matter (O its not for japanese devs as a whole). Â Thats why Nukige companies can put out many games and still make profit (Like say BISHOP that puts at least two games a year for much success). Â Anyways prioities might differ but H by far is the most important one for their most important market. Quote
kratoscar2008 Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Key VNs arent pointless for no H, as said even them knows their market cares for H enough to add them later (Great business strategy at that). See even Key knows the H is pretty important. Quote
Satsuki Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 It's important - as a bonus fan-service to attract some more customers, not as the main core to determine whether or not a VN is worth reading . Quote
LinovaA Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Not gonna lie, the topic of the importance of h in VNs probably warrants its own thread if it doesn't already exist.   Looking at the survey though, the top 10 series people wanted were pretty average. Or rather, they were to be expected. Fate takes the number one spot for popularity, as usual.  Would totally be okay with the Baldr series coming over though~ Quote
Satsuki Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Not gonna lie, the topic of the importance of h in VNs probably warrants its own thread if it doesn't already exist.   Looking at the survey though, the top 10 series people wanted were pretty average. Or rather, they were to be expected. Fate takes the number one spot for popularity, as usual.  Would totally be okay with the Baldr series coming over though~ Quote
Nosebleed Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Not gonna lie, the topic of the importance of h in VNs probably warrants its own thread if it doesn't already exist. atorq 1 Quote
AlexZandria Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Story is overreated, art is pretty important, relationship development okay, MC VA why are you even reading VNs? Â The only real reason the genre is alive is because of H so that should be companies #1 priority and it seems consumers as well, thats why Nukiges are the best. Â Actually I beg to differ. Nukiges are the best because that's what Shigeo Hamashima draws and if she was into women I'd learn Japanese and go lesbo for her. Â I swear I've been fangirling over her for 2 weeks straight now. Â I was disappointed that ClockUp was in 10th place in terms of companies and that Fratnite didn't make it on the list of wanted VNs. Call me obsessed. Quote
Zakamutt Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Well, Flowers being near the top is nice, though I'd have wished for okujou no yurirei-san to be up there... hopefully it's below the fold but decently high up #futilehopes  I wonder if the Flowers sequel (aka Flowers natsu hen) will be better than the first which was apparently decently good but a bit underwhelming. Sigh... Quote
kratoscar2008 Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 It's important - as a bonus fan-service to attract some more customers, not as the main core to determine whether or not a VN is worth reading . They know they can sell a non H version for people who dont care about H but they know the H market matters, would be neat to see difference in copies sold. Quote
AlexZandria Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 They know they can sell a non H version for people who dont care about H but they know the H market matters, would be neat to see difference in copies sold. Not all plots work without sex. That one path in IMHHW and stories pertaining to prostitution or rape. It's the same as anything else. Some stories don't work told from a male character's POV or some stories don't work without gore. Quote
kratoscar2008 Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 Not all plots work without sex. That one path in IMHHW and stories pertaining to prostitution or rape. It's the same as anything else. Some stories don't work told from a male character's POV or some stories don't work without gore. Quote
AlexZandria Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 Well most games doesnt need the specific H, just a mention that it happened. Most sex is tacked on because of how important H is. I enjoy a lot of the scenes for the character development. If a story is done well then little things like how a character reacts to a certain motion says a lot about a character and a couple's relationship. At least this is true in M// related works. I find that VNDB lists like every female in a MxF scenario to be a virgin girl. M// is always so complex about their H-scenes. If a M// H-scene is about the sex and just the sex it was done wrong. Quote
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