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Revolutionizing visual novels huh? What, is it going to be set in something other than a high school?

A real revolution for them would be to write an actually coherent story, where potential "heroines" aren't just rewards.

There is a possibility that you exceeded the 30 turn time limit, and if you are unable to defeat Tilca and capture Edda (By reducing the enemy's national power to 0) within 30 turns, it will end automatically. Otherwise, if you are playing the all-ages version, the Fall of Edda scenario should activate, ending the demo after Loki captures Tilca. The 18+ version ends after Loki "Interrogates" Tilca. After reading your post, I believe you may have hit the turn limit. Capturing the capital city does not = capturing the country unless the enemy's national power is at 0 (You can confirm this using the Info button). If you experience bugs or crashes, please do inform us and we will do our best to fix it. As of right now, we have a patch available that we tweeted about which will fix a memory leak bug. Thank you for playing the demo and we're glad to hear you enjoyed it!

A more interesting and substantial revolution would be moving the fuck away from the classic "heroines get routes" structure.

VLR is the sequel to 999, so you should read 999 first anyway. You don't have a real choice anyway as long as you don't own a handheld, since for PC they are exclusively sold as a bundle. In the case of 999 I agree, since at first it's pretty cryptic which route your choices send you down. But once you think about it, the way you reach the good routes is pretty logical because you just have to keep following the characters that gave you important information at the previous door. In VLR I found the AB system to be one of the best parts since you could never know what implications your choices had, but the immediate impact was still obvious (certain characters liking you more/less). All branches except for the bad endings gave you new information necessary to understanding the greater mysterey or at least someones motivations. My main problem with the branching system was that there was a lot of repitition between them since a lot of events happened no matter what choices you made before but tiny line changes force you to read a lot of the content several times. I agree that this part of the discussion should be moved to a different thread.

I think, if I understand you correctly, some chuunige should fit that. Fate is the first one that comes to mind. Like, it's basically it, no? Tsukihime fits partially: the story divides into two big branches at the beginning based on the plot, but after that you again choose a heroine in a more or less standard way. I'm not sure if Tokyo Babel fits. You technically chose an enemy who the protagonist is going to fight first and not the heroine, but, I think, all the routes were still pretty character-based from the very beginning, so it's probably not that. To be honest, that's exactly what I find annoying. In quite a lot of plotge it doesn't even matter who the protagonist hooks up with, because the difference between routes lies a lot deeper. I think, I already wrote about it at some point, but I just believe that the classical route structure just makes the stories in VNs a lot more rigid than they should be. If you pick up a non-otome/yuri VN with multiple routes, you know that it's going to be about a male high-school student surrounded by cute girls and only by cute girls, and there's no way away from this formula, at all. And if you pick up an otome, it's going to be the same, just gender-reversed (and probably not set in a high-school). By the way, I don't want to further derail this thread, so maybe we should start a separate thread for this topic.

So many wrong opinions and facts in this thread

you poor, wonderful, innocent fucker. Do it. Just download the voice only patch and get started. Godspeed.

Kashima best boy. Eeerrr girl. Eeerrr what.

Finished playing the demo and if it's anything to go by then this game looks to be a fun play. About my only complaint is the demo would crash from time to time and it has a pretty random ending; I assumed it would end when I captured the capital city but it didn't and instead just ended after I captured that lake territory by it without even a closing scene.

What do you think of Da Capo 3 X-Rated? Have you read any of the others in the trilogy before? Y'know, I've been thinking for a bit that our tastes seem to be pretty similar and having read your review of this I now am convinced they are and kind of really really want to read this. I was interested at first, but that combo of tsundere + childhood friend + twintails + canon heroine is much too strong for me to ignore lol. Thanks for writing the review :D.

She will eventually find out (or you'll quit playing), you should tell her, if she thinks that you're a perv or whatever, you just need to explain what a VN is, if she's still thinking that it is cheating, it means that what will happen is bound to happen, you shouldn't stop playing because she tells you to, in a relationship both you and she need to adapt at each other, not change what one truly is to make the other one happier, if you need to change to stay with her because she said that if you don't stop she'll break the relationship, that means that she doesn't want you, she wants the other guy that she's trying to turn you into, and as i said, to maintain a stable relationship, one must not change, but adapt. Just tell her, if she breaks up, then that's what is bound to happen, and if you change in other to be what she expects, then you wont be yourself anymore, if the love truly is mutual, she'll understand, if she don't understand and accept it, then she loves not you, but the guy she's trying to make you into (and if that's how she's like, then what stops her from breaking the relationship, seek another guy and trying to change him the same way she's trying to change you?), it's better being alone than being with someone that doesn't love you. Only my opinion tho.

Man, I just want to thank you for this, all the hard work put on it because the publishers wouldn't deliver, you are my hero and have all my support from now on

Okay, so this might be coming out of left field but I think you should go with option number 9 which is the gifted singer-songwriter Jim Croce. I think that would be a good option.

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This pretty much all relates to how she feels about it. It's like porn, honestly (assuming you are playing the porn type VN's and not, say, Steins;Gate). Some women are okay with it as long as it doesn't detract from them, hell because it's a VN it might be "better." Others are completely against it. So you got to ask yourself, does she like anime/manga and understand what a VN is. The whole "I learned Japanese because of those games" is a point that isn't needed to make you can easily just be like "yeah i thought it would be fun to learn" kinda thing. But if you want to play VN's, she has to know, and if she has to know, she has to be okay with it. ESPECIALLY if you are doing something "sneaky sneaky" behind her back. You can just tell her "look VN's are like reading a book, I can't do them with you around because I get distracted from the immersion required to fully enjoy it. So like reading a book it is best to have some seclusion/privacy while doing it. Hell you could even do something like watch a movie or whatever you do in the mean time" My wife loves VN's especially the yaoi ones from Nitro+, So yeah I get the jab every now and then about the VN porn games but I never hide it from her, If i'm playing those kinds of games she just goes and plays something/watches something/does something else. Now taking all this into account, if she IS the type to go ape shit over this stuff, then yeah you gotta either break it if VN's are more important to you or resign yourself to the fact you gotta give it up. If she REALLY does not like VN's then it's just going to put a strain on the relationship.

I've never had a GF, so what could I know... (maybe that's why I'm reading VNs ) Nevertheless - I think almost everybody would agree, that communication is essential for good relationship. Also, sneaking/hiding won't work forever. So you two should definitely talk it over. You don't want to spend all your time pretending - that's exhausting.

I think the time has come for me to play Umineko. I've been putting it off because it's long af and from what I've heard, a pretty dense read, and I'm lazy Furthermore, I easily get obsessed over a mistery or challenge of some sort and yeah... I can waste all day thinking about it, so I'm pretty scared of what Umineko might do to me. I only know the basic premise. The head of some rich family is going to kick the bucket and everyone gathers in an island to discuss over the inheritance, then they get killed The setting looks like something out of Meitantei Conan. Oh, and I've also heard that: Well, that's all, wish me luck

Dude, you're creating these threads like twice a day now!!!! So I'll recommend this instead, have a good week: https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/

I've read Umineko twice, and I must say that the second time was the best. Umineko was literally my first VN, and I did not care enough by the time to go deep into the story and its many twists and hidden meanings. Besides, there is too much that you can miss in When They Cry (the series) if you don't know yet what is happening in the background. I intend to reread it again, but I need more years to do so. Other VNs that I might reread someday are Forest, which I did not pay too much attention to when reading, Little Busters (I've just finished it, so only in the next five years or so), Never7, as it was the only game in the series that I did not expect the supernatural/sci fi elements, so didn't bother with them before, and maybe Katahane, as I enjoyed it a lot and I recall it having another version to be released.