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This time, I come on behalf of other friend. Seriously, I am getting tired of this. They all could create their own accounts instead of relying on me. Anyway, this time one of them wants to read something untranslated, but can't decide which VN to pick. His Japanese level should be similar to mine so about level of reading Grisaia, Eustia or Tokeijikake series. Also could you explain why would you pick that VNs? Baldr Sky Dive 1 and 2 Tokyo Necro Gekkou no Charnevale Sorcery Jokers

I would list couple of reasons. It is obviously a way to distract attention from real life. It can be anything. From distraction of tired body after work, tired mind after studying or, which is probably the most important for anime/VN communities, a way to escape reality from the fact that, how would many VNs' protagonist would phrase, you are single for as many years as you are alive... Personally, I like to read. I have read over 300 novels and web novels and over 50 VNs. I especially like Asian writing styles. Most of popular western literature is ether badly written copy paste of females dream realization or just plainly hard to remember due to sheer number of characters and boringly written events. Of course, most of Japanese and Chinese VNs and LNs/WNs are the opposite, aka realization of males' dreams, but I consider those to be trash as well. But sometimes among all that trash one can find true gems. what I liked the most when it comes to VNs, is the ability to choose your story, the multi route connection and connection between music and scenes which helps to create exactly the atmosphere that authors wanted to create.

I also recommend reverting back and finishing routes in this order Kasumi>Kei>Marie>Rea It is very important order if you want maximum experience from the game. Or should I say, in order not to ruin that experience. Also, DON'T SKIP ROUTES. Dies Irae is not something like Fate/Stay Night or other similar VNs. You need specific info from other routes or some parts will not make sense. As for heroines, personally I was not a fan of Kasumi or her route, but I am glad I finished it in the way it was recommended. To be perfectly honest, out of 4 main heroines, I liked Marie the most even though she wasn't written that well. Also, for me Rea as heroine dragged down her route, but route itself was EPIC.

It is linear with single heroine/ending. As for how good it is, I gave it 9 I think. It does have one of the best soundtracks I have heard when playing VN.

Thanks, I will tell her that, though I am debating about Tokyo Babel. It is the only VN that I have played personally from that list. I am wondering why did you mention Raziel in particular? Considering the nature of the ending and the fact that request was impossible romance + a happy ending, wouldn't other 2 routes fit that description better. Thanks for remaining eden. Seriously, how could I forget about that? Though it does not really fit request exactly, but it is definitely worth to recommend it anyway. How much fantasy elements does ef and suika have? Btw. I didn't recommend S;G 0 because I was waiting for her to finish S;G so I would know whether she liked it. Funny thing is that I myself am currently reading Gahktum so I will be able to check it personally before recommending it to her.

All translated VNs with silver heroines I could think of: 11eyes - Tsumi to Batsuto Aganai no Shoujo Eden* They Were Only Two, On the Planet Dies Irae Fate/Hollow Ataraxia (you have to have Fate/Stay Night completed first though) Hoshizora no Memoria Shinigami no Kiss wa Wakare no Aji

For me it is not a problem. I know how to google them. I posted here because it is sticky thread which is meant to help neebies after all. They did help me when I was starting and I think that they would be helpful for many people, that is why I posted suggesting fixing them. And yes, you were right. Changing org to net does the trick. Good luck with that. That is quite a number of lists you have to update then

One friend requested me to ask this here, so here I go. She is looking for VNs which would be similar to: F/SN - Fate route + avalon Umineko - magic ending Dies Irae - Marie + her afterstory From what I understood, she wants something like impossible love, but with a happy (sort of) ending. Also, my friend like me also likes not pure SoL but seeing nature of impossible love most - fantasy. The best I came up with was Steins;Gate, Fata Morgana and Rewrite, but that was not enough for her so she asked for me to ask here.

First I apologize if I posted it in wrong sub-forum but I am not sure where it belongs. At least for me, none of the links on this page work: I don't know. Maybe it is just my PC, but when I try clicking it I ether get "This site can't be reached" (Chrome) or "Server not found" (Mozzila). Since it is sticky and important one it should be fixed

Am I the only one who Rea was ruining her own route? I understand that romance was not the focus of the story, but still... Even Shirou said that she and MC has lack of chemistry. No matter how much I disliked Kasumi I still have to admit it that even she was better in this aspect...

This is for you. Improves the ending for a bit https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1408286

Dumped Ikkikoi already. I wonder which Guilty Crown you are talking about. VN was quite good and its ending I think very fitting for prequel as for anime one... if you go with theories about symbolic ending then it was not bad as well.

Does all Key VNs have "Key ending" like their anime or just anime? Btw. Why masochist if you read Ikikoi? Was Amatsumi that good then? Never read it, but the last time I heard such comparison it ended up story about tentacle rape... Not fan of those... When you talk about Myth being confusing, in which way you mean it? Confusing in terms of complexity like lets say Ever 17/Umineko or confusing in terms that it is nonsense? How difficult is gaming part of Aselia? I am terrible at that. Personally I have heard a lot of bad about 3rd eyes games. My friend more or less spoiled me the ending of Testament. So far it looked like not bad chuuni with a terrible ending. It is not that I hate SoL, but rather I hate pure SoL because it usually turns out to be just badly written rom/com. So far from what I have read I only liked anime/light novel Oregairu because it was that well written and had interesting characters, not typical trashy ones. Most stories are ether dumb mc + moe or hot heroine or boring shoujo anime level nonsense. Haven't read Katawa Shoujo so I need to ask. Are you talking about mentally disable heroines (like completely dumb etc.) or one of those Japanese fetishes for girls without limbs? How good is Kara no Shoujo franchise? Especially if you are spoiled about the ending of 2nd VN? I have heard that it was pretty good mystery VN, but if ending is what I heard (basically bad end for true route) is that mystery still worth reading?

So I just finished reading Dies Irae which was my 50th VN! But when I was deciding what to read next and checked my list I found that it was way to large. I have nether money nor time to play them all. So I came here for help in order to decide which VNs to prioritize and which to ditch. I would like to reduce my plan to read list by at least 50%. My Japanese level is at level where I could finish Eustia and Grisaia. For me, story is the most important and unless it is written very very well, I don't really like pure slice of life stories (unless they have some sort of twist like fitting fantasy elements or something similar). Also I despise otome games. My list: Air Akatsuki no Goei ~Tsumibukaki Shuumatsuron~ Ame no Marginal Angel Beats! An Octave Higher Ayakashibito Baldr Sky Dive1 “Lost Memory” Baldr Sky Dive2 “Recordare” Baldr Sky "Zero" Cartagra ~Tsuki kurui no Yamai~ Chaos;Child Chrono Clock Clannad Corpse Party BloodCovered Coμ - Kuroi Ryuu to Yasashii Oukoku - Devils Devel Concept Disorder 6 Dracu-Riot! Dunamis 15 ef - a fairy tale of the two. Eien no Aselia -The Spirit of Eternity Sword- Eiyuu*Senki Evolimit Fate/Extella Fate/Extra Fate/Extra CCC Forest Gekkou no Carnevale Hatsukoi 1/1 Ikinari Anata ni Koishiteiru I/O Irotoridori no Sekai Jingai Makyou Kamaitachi no Yoru Kami no Ue no Mahoutsukai Kanon Kara no Shoujo - The Second Episode Katawa Shoujo Koiken Otome Koisuru Natsu no Last Resort Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate Kyokugen Dasshutsu 9-Jikan 9-Nin 9 no Tobira Kyokugen Dasshutsu ADV Zennin Shibou Desu Little Busters! Melty Blood Mirai Nostalgia Myth Negai no Kakera to Hakugin no Agreement Osananajimi wa Daitouryou: My Girlfriend is the President. Ourai no Gahkthun ~What a Shining Braves~ Phantom of Inferno Remember11 -The Age of Infinity- Rose Guns Days Sakura no Mori † Dreamers Sakura no Uta -Sakura no Mori no Ue o Mau- Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shoujo Shinigami no Testament ~menuet of epistula~ Shuffle! Silverio Vendetta Sorcery Jokers Soukou Akki Muramasa Subarashiki Hibi ~Furenzoku Sonzai~ Suzukaze no Melt -Where Wishes are Drawn to Each Other- Symphonic Rain Tasogare no Sinsemilla Tenshi no Hane o Fumanaide Tokyo Necro Tomoyo After ~It's a Wonderful Life~ Utawarerumono White Album 2 ~Introductory Chapter~ World End Economica Yoake Mae yori Ruri Iro na

So I just finished Dies Irae, but still have a few questions remaining. Could someone explain me if and how Marie's and Rea's routes are connected. I mean during Rea's route, close to the end, it seems that Reinhard saw memories from his fight with MC in Marie's route (the moment when Mercurius interrupted their fight in that route) In the end, which route/ending is considered True one? Marie + Omnia vincit Amor or Rea + Nihil difficile amanti. From what I see Kei and Kasumi more or less seem like bad ends while Marie and Rea as 2 true endings of equal worth, but many people claim that Rea is true one because of fight scenes... Correct me if I am wrong, but MC at the end of Rea's + extra story is his own (+Rusalka's) grandson?

After reading common route I want to cry from sadness... Why, oh why...I wish I could buy it... At this rate it will jump to at least my top 3 favorites....

I have a serious question. What are usual delays for such cases?

Today rather than for recommendation, I came with a question. When asked about VNs people who read translated works mostly think about something that can be considered legends of VN world/giants of VNs such as Fate, Umineko, Muv Luv etc. Since my knowledge of VNs is still lacking, I would like to ask about untranslated VNs. When it comes to untranslated VNs which VNs are considered to be those legendary giants of VNs? I could only think of Eustia, Baldr and Dies irae...

As someone who is doing selfstuding for the purpose of reading Japanese I can advise you this much from my personal experience: Learn grammar ASAP. Basic grammar is very important. From my experience, in terms of importance of importance I would give it 2nd place (after hiragana and katakana). You can always search for words or kanji, but knowing grammar makes your reading that much easier. For grammar I can recommend Tae Kim's guide mentioned above or a book Japanese the Manga Way. It is very important to actually read. This will help A LOT. It will help to improve vocabulary, how to apply grammar, structure of sentences etc. For further information I recommend you this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZMvUMwWe1JwwCDr3KTHrqmf3ridrI8A-AZue3TxGMX0/pub

Could someone share Hapymaher 100 save file. My PC crashed because of virus and I lost all my data on 1 disk... I was yet to read Alice and Maia's routes and replaying entire thing would be a pain. Ps. Sorry if I posted on wrong subforum.

True Remembrance looks promising. Maybe Fault as well. Thanks. It is. And it was quite good. It had the best qualities while ditching the worst part. https://vndb.org/v7402 Thanks. Though they seem to be related to Muramasa. That might make them very difficult to read... On the other hand, it might be good practice before reading Muramasa

After reading bunch of long VNs and getting stuck while reading Hapymaher I would like to read something short for a change, but then I noticed that my entire Plant to Read list consist of long VNs. Could anyone recommend me something as long as Eden* or preferably shorter, but which would still have good story? Untranslated stuff is fine as well. Something BESIDES these: Phenomeno, Eden* Grisaia side stories Guilty Crown Higanbana series Planetarian Saya no Uta Narcissu Ps. What is rough length of each route in Hapymaher? It feels very slow to me, but I doubt that is because of Japanese level I have finished more difficult stuff faster than I have finished part of 1 route...

Isn't that totally normal? The more one is exposed to something, the more familiar one gets with it, therefore one can judge better. For example, when I first watched anime I considered some shows like Infinite Stratos to be nearly masterpieces. The more I watched, the less I considered it to be good. Now, when I am getting close to 800 completed anime mark I consider it to be nearly trash (though I keep kind ratings on MAL)... I even want to say that I feel nearly shameful for my past opinion about it.

You see, that is why I noted that I was talking about OVA. Rurouni Kenshin OVA is completely different in terms of style from anime series. It was much darker and serious in tone. Comparing anime series with that OVA could be done in this way: anime series would be like Muv Luv VN while OVA would be Alternative. OVA is number 2 OVA on MAL for a reason and to add my personal opinion, it was the best part of franchise beating both anime and manga (even though it was adaptation)

I have to say that this is one amazing list. It turns out that most of stuff I read/plan to read actually matched this list. Though I don't really have the right to suggest anything because I don't have 100+ VN under my belt, but I would still like to ask a question. Why nothing was included from such powerhouses like Steins;Gate, Umineko or Baldr Sky Dive franchises? Considering their ratings on VNDB they belong to top 10. Considering popularity - they are very iconic and belong to most popular and respected franchises list. Quality wise they at least were equal or higher than some of entries on this list.