Forgetful Frank

The closest cartoon I've personally watched (that I love) that is quite similar to Japanese Anime has to be Avatar: The Legend of Aang (LoA) and its sequel series Avatar: The Legend of Korra (LoK). Most western cartoons are just filled with random non-coherent episodes without an overall story or arc, which is why I stopped watching cartoons and later switched to watching anime, since they do usually have an overall story to tell with coherent episodes that actually feels like progress is being made and characters are being fleshed out and developed. I grew up watching LoA, but I didn't truly appreciate it until I grew up and went to college and then decided to watch the entire thing from beginning to end. If you can get past the really childish goofy gimmicks that children shows are full of, you'll actually find an amazingly intricate and deep emotional story full of character development and hardships with a great emotional adventure. I personally loved the character development of Prince Zuko and his Uncle Iroh. LoK to me, is perfect. It's a much more mature LoA, it feels like the show kind of grew up with its original target audience, and the story can get surprisingly dark for a kids show at times, and the animation was absolutely beautiful. I'm hoping they end up creating another Avatar in the future, but an even more mature version to make it feel like it's grown up more like LoK felt with LoA. Hopefully it's not with Nickelodeon, otherwise that will be impossible. Anyway, if you haven't watched or given Avatar: The Legend of Aang and Avatar: The Legend of Korra a chance yet, I definitely recommend it to you. It's the best cartoon I've ever watched, and really does feel more like an anime. Beautiful story and soundtrack, interestingly complex characters with great development, and one big amazing emotional adventure. EDIT: STAY AWAY FROM M.NIGHT SHAMALAMA'S MOVIE!

Thanks to some helpful recommendations on the current new anime that's been airing recently by some lovely Fuwa-chan's, I'm now watching: Hai to Gensou no Grimgar Boku dake ga Inai Machi There's a couple more new anime that's been recommended to me, but I haven't got round to watching them yet. And I have to say, Boku dake ga Inai Machi has be absolutely enthralled into it, I love everything about it! The story is so fresh and interesting to me, I was so sad when I caught up to the first three episodes that's only out so far, I need more! So now, my currently weekly anime watch is: One Piece Fairy Tail Hai to Gensou no Grimgar Boku dake ga Inai Machi I was watching Naruto Shippuuden, but I got fed up with the filler arc, so I'm waiting for it to end before I pick it back up again.

Thank you so much for your kind words, Dergonu! I feel exactly the same as you, even though I've only been in this community for a couple of weeks, I feel right at home here ,and I feel that I've known you for much longer. Editing your book has been really fun and I'm grateful you let me! And I'm really impressed with your writing so far! I'm admittedly really into the story so far even though I'm not really into the Yuri genre. Congrats on your 500th+ post! Here's to 500 more!

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"dont play that "i know games" card" I never said anything about me knowing games, and I think you've taken something I said a little too personally? I only said that I as a potential customer, was successfully brought into liking the VN genre and community successfully, by a VN being released on Steam. Bottom of the line is though, without Steam, I wouldn't have been able to play an actual high quality VN with a budget and gotten into VN's, because they can be pretty difficult to obtain in the west (legally) from a widely-known trusted source. I don't put in payment details in any site I come across. Your main point in this thread has been advocating Steam isn't anything special, when in fact it really is. Simply looking at the Steam Statistics shows that more than 10 million people have been logged into Steam within the last 48 hours. If you're going to sit there and tell me and everyone else that Steam isn't important for developers and publishers in putting there games on that platform holding 10 million active potential customers on a daily basis, I can't take you seriously. You magically pulled out me playing the "I know games" 'card' (when I didn't), but in actuality I believe it's you who is playing the "I'm a game designer/developer" 'card'. I don't think studying game design magically makes you know absolutely everything there is about it. In my time at college, I had a short course module on Game Design that was designed to give you a basic understanding in coding simple games made from flash and even take you into Uni to continue if you wanted to learn more about it, and I still know nothing about game design. One thing's for sure though, knowing game design and knowing your customer-base isn't the same thing. To me, it's obvious a platform home to 10 million regular active customers is a goldmine for a developer/publisher wanting to sell their games.

Ah my bad, sorry! Well you did a good job making it into a VN! It ran well.

Ehh, I don't understand what you mean exactly about thinking like a customer and a developer. Surely thinking as a developer/publisher, you want your game/product to be seen by as much people as possible. I know for a fact, that if none of those games were on Steam in the first place, the chances of me ever finding this community or even playing a VN were VERY slim. I mean, I've been gaming for most of my life, and I'm on my computer playing games most of my personal time, and not once in all these years of gaming, I ever stumbled across a VN that made me want to play more and explore more of its genre. I played Katawa Shoujo once years ago, but only because it was free and I can't really remember how I found it, I think a college friend suggested it, and I only ever played one route and was satisfied to not play anymore. But I wasn't prepared to go out of my way and purchase a VN, 1) because I didn't really know what sites to purchase from and honestly I didn't really trust any or feel comfortable with entering bank information on unfamiliar sites. 2) VN's are pretty pricey in some cases, especially if you're going to order internationally. So I just never bothered because it felt like such a pain. Fast forward to now where VN's are being put on Steam, I saw the Sakura games and they didn't interest me one bit and I didn't care. Then I saw Tokyo School Life, If My Heart Had Wings etc, and they interested me enough to consider them on sale. Christmas time they're on sale, I purchase without regret, because they were much more convenient to buy from Steam and I trusted Steam more, and now here I am. Willing to buy from MangaGamer and what not. So surely the difference you're talking about between me as the 'customer' and a developer are irrelevant? Or in fact pretty much the same thing, as putting a game on Steam worked in favour for them since I purchased games from Steam, and then once I realised they were cut, I stopped purchasing on Steam and started buying from the official channels, like I did with Euphoria the other day. Honestly Steam is a pretty big deal for developers, no doubt about it. It holds a large amount of customers that game developers can reach out to, I'm pretty grateful VN's were released to Steam, and I honestly hope that one day Steam will be more lenient and let all different types of VN's without cut content to be released on the platform, because I'd feel more comfortable and prefer to purchase from Steam than other sites since that's where I've been buying most of my games from for years.

I have to add to this and say, if it wasn't for Steam, I wouldn't of discovered VN's like If My Heart Had Wings, The Fruit of Grisaia, and other VN's that are currently on my wish-list that I haven't purchased yet. If it wasn't for these games being on Steam, I wouldn't have searched for how to restore IMHHW and found Fuwanovel's awesome community. I definitely wouldn't be into VN's as much as I am now if those games weren't on Steam, because I wouldn't have found them. I use Steam for pretty much like 99% of my PC gaming, I definitely don't agree with everything about Steam, but I like that it's convenient to me personally and I can have all my games and account information in one place, instead of on several different places, which is why I buy all my PC games on Steam. And millions of other people are exactly the game, which is why Steam is such a powerful platform to have games on, because that's where mostly every PC gamer is like it or not.

Whoops! Yeah I did mean Divine Gate, ahahaha! My bad! Thank you very much to both you of! I really appreciate the recommendations and I'll jump right into watching them and hopefully join in on the discussions in this topic!

@Nashetania Happy birthday!

I haven't been keeping up with the latest anime in a while, I've just been watching the usual on-going ones. You've peaked my interest in this one though! EDIT: Could anyone be kind enough to give me a couple of new anime they're watching this season that you're enjoying? I'd be really grateful since after reading through this thread, you've all gotten me in the mood to watch some! So far I've managed to add to my watch-list: Hai to Gensoi no Grimgar and Divine Temple

I uh... Sheesh... Yeah... I haven't seen any gore yet, currently bracing myself. I don't know, Nashetania! I don't... Know... I got sucked in for the mystery! I NEED to know what and why!

I've barely read two VN's so far-- still currently reading one of them. Confession: I've already started playing a game like Euphoria...

By the Gods!

Great video! Very helpful and informative!

I second this idea!

These scenery pictures are beyond beautiful! I really do love them, they look so good.

God that was a really nice read, brought a tear to my eye... (or it could be because I'm still recovering from my latest session reading Euphoria) But nonetheless, that was a beautiful read. I hope to forge such bonds in my Fuwanovel future. Congrats on 1000 posts!

I'm sorry but I have to agree with the others in this thread. I liked the art and how I could read it on my phone, but I didn't like the story. There wasn't enough context or moral of the story to give the story any meaning or reason for it being a story. It felt like it was just a rushed depressing story for the sake of being depressing. I know you weren't responsible for the story, and I did like your art and though it was made nicely into a short VN.

Wow, great work everyone! I'll be checking out the demo later. I love the style.

Working on the concept for several years is very impressive! Consider me interested. Great job so far!

This looks great! Thanks for all your hard work, everyone on the team. I'll be checking this out for sure.

Awesome! I'll check out the demo and hopefully put it on my wish list to get in the near future. Reading the thread got me pretty interested!

At least you've made some progress, nice work!