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Thank you very much for the info and tips! I should be fairly familiar with how this game works. In Brave Frontier you also have spheres (equivalent to craft essences from what I can see). The star rarity thing is a bit different though. In BF you could evolve your 4* into 5* or even 6* in some cases. It seems like here you are stuck with the original number of stars the unit has, but then there's that ascension thing which I guess it's the evolve counterpart. The gacha rate is even lower here ffs, I never thought I'd live to see the day For now I set up some instances on an emulator with a macro for rerolling. Let's just leave it there for a while and see How long it takes to get that pesky first SSR EDIT: Ok then, got the first 5*, Sanzang. The rates were up for her so that was to be expected. How do you guys think she compares against other 5*?

This game reminds me a lot of Brave Frontier, which I used to play some years ago. I wasted too much money I shouldn't have wasted with that game... I'm gonna install this, but for the record I'll make the solemn oath to remain F2P right here and now EDIT: Ok, I already installed it and gave it a try. Yep, it's almost identical to Brave Frontier. I'm gonna reroll a few times to get the servants I want (or I think I want, cause I don't really know what's good in this game yet ). Wish me luck!

I mean, I could go around handing out awards myself left and right and nobody would care. An award has relevance to the extent that people respects it as a trustworthy measure of the quality (that being the reason why nobody respects the Oscars anymore). But sure, it could at least be fun times. Actually, I find it surprising that it doesn't exist already...

I think that the main point is not whether VNs are gonna ever win a Nobel or similar prizes (probably not though ), but whether they deserve it. I remember discussing this same topic in another thread some time ago, and my position, which I still hold, is that it's ultimately unfair to compare classical literature with VNs. It's a very different medium if you look at it closely, even though it might be hard to realize at first due to writing being at the core of the work in both cases. But the thing is, you wouldn't judge the script of a movie the same way you judge a novel, right? They serve different purposes. There's no doubt that the writing in literature is more intrincate as it carries a lot more weight on its shoulders: the picture that is conveyed to the reader depends on how well the writer is able to handle all the details without breaking the immersive experience or the fluidity of the narrative. That's a very delicate balance. It takes way more technical skill to write a classical novel than the script of a VN, that's a fact. In that sense of course VNs couldn't never hope to stand a chance. But it's really unfair because the medium itself is limiting the writing. While novels writing is absolutely free, VNs have lots of constraints. Not to say that is a bad thing, what's happening is that the narrative must support the visuals and the first person experience that it promotes. The art, the voice acting, the soundtrack, whatever interaction with the reader there might be and the multiple choices and results, all must work together to generate a cohesive experience. Thus the superficial writing is relegated to mostly dialogue and a good amount of internal monologue. Even then, it's not that it's easy. As a matter of fact, most writers I know told me that writing a natural dialogue that suits the characters and atmosphere of the moment is one of the hardest tasks to tackle and the trademark of a good writer. To summarize, I believe that VNs and classical novels, though similar at first glance, are two worlds apart and should not be lumped together to be judged. As for whether there are VNs whose overall storytelling and worldbuilding fare well against literature classics, I would say that yeah, there are, but then again that's really difficult to assess for the reasons I discussed and could perfectly be my biased fanatism talking, so could we just leave it at the fact that there are incredibly awesome VNs out there who deserve to win a prize on their own category?

Yaaay... I'll be munching on some twizzlers meanwhile...

Nah, I can't see that happening tbh. But if VNs really got popular we could get something equivalent to the Oscars, that is, a special award ceremony, which could also be cool.

Pot ser que tinguem un altre català per aquí? Welcome buddy!

Welcome fellow weeb, enjoy your stay. Let's waste away our lives together in harmony!

And so am I

Welcome! I wish you good luck with your project and hope you see it through. I also hope you give some VNs a try (feel free to ask me and the fellow forum members for recommendations!), as it will surely improve your comprehension of the medium you are dealing with, which should prove really helpful for your project, and besides, you'd be missing out on some great stuff otherwise See you around!

Hello fellow weeb I hope you have fun here, it's definitely a good place to hang around, if a little empy lately probably due to exams and shit. Hope to see you around!

Those violin transitions are stunning and seem to be a staple in Tenmon's music He surely loves his violin. Now, today I'll go with this: Cry bitches, cry!

Allow me to politely disagree. I won't deny that the prose tends to be pretty straightforward in VNs, and that if your goal is to get used to a more barroque use of the language, you might be better off looking somewhere else. However, I don't think that this fact alone is enough to mark them out as non educational. There are plenty of great authors with a very simple style who wrote very complex stories. Isaac Asimov comes to mind, being a sci-fi fan myself. As long as the story drags you out of your comfort zone, either by making you feel part of another completely different world, or by putting you in very delicate personal and moral dilemmas, I think there is quite a lot to ponder and as a result, you might wind up realising things you never even thought about. I'd call that educational, independently of how complex the prose or the vocabulary gets, which in the end, even if they do add to the atmosphere, belong to the domain of aesthetics.

So much passion Every wednesdey I look forward to the new S;G0 episode AND your comment on this thread. Haven't watched the episode yet though, let's fix that! EDIT: Ok, watched.

Well done. Actually Ayamine's route is the only other route kinda worth doing aside from Sumika and Meiya which are a must. Not that it is very important, but you know, speaking in comparative terms. Congrats on getting it over with. Now the true journey begins Consider Unlimited to be the prologue.

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I started watching Darling in the FranXX out of curiosity for all the commotion this anime stired (though I'm late af to the party). So, to summarize, Evangelion was like "hey, you know what would be cool and really hot? Teenage girls fighting inside of giant robots wearing extra tight suits". Then Muv Luv came along and made them transparent. The next logical step is obviously to replicate kamasutra positions. Bravo

Yep, I can understand that. Even I need to be in an appropiate mood to fully enjoy your classical Key VN. On the other hand I don't mind the repetitiveness; I already know what I'm getting into beforehand, so no big surprise. It's to be expected that someone who originally enjoyed those tropes will keep on liking them as long as they don't oversaturate themselves. Someone who was never fond of them will grow weary in a not so long period of time.

I'm a big fan of Key and Jun Maeda so of course I'm gonna say it's good, but honestly, it highly hinges on how well it resonates with you. First of all, it's mostly a quality slice of life, but slice of life nonetheless. If you truly can't stand the genre then it's probably not for you. Then we've got the typical Key leitmotivs: memories, dreams, multiverse... If you are familiar with any other Key VN or you've watched any of their anime adaptations you surely must know what I mean. If you haven't, you can play it safe by reading another shorter Key VN like Air or Kanon, if you don't mind older looking style. If you are like me and enjoy that oniric feeling, and don't mind some moe blob here and there, then Little Busters is for you.

No kidding, that's what makes them perfect

Oh my, now that's quality necromancing. He absolutely nailed it As a romance fag myself, I usually enjoy more the chemistry a couple has than the isolate "waifiness" of a heroine. But if I had to list some features I tend to like, that would be an able girl who can usually manage on her own, but like any human being has her moments of weakness when she needs that special person by her side. Plus, that's what I believe a relationship should be like: knowing that you can rely on your partner when you need it and making they feel the same way. If it's too one-sided it turns into babysitting, which you know, could be also fine, but that's not an ideal romantic relationship for me, it's something else.

Still reading F/SN Heaven's feel after taking a break for studying

Tbh Muv Luv is much less about waifus and more about the incredible and complex world it builds. Extra an Alternative are two completely different beasts. Do not judge the characters by the little you have seen so far. In Extra everyone is annoying on purpose. Takeru is not an exception. But trust me, after you finish Alternative you'll come to love even the way the characters were in Extra. As for your question, yeah, there are a lot of people who can't stand Sumika and love Muv Luv nonetheless!