Clephas
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After you gain an understanding of the grammar, as well as both katakana and hiragana, your biggest obstacle is going to be kanji. Using a parser (programs that place potential readings in the form of furigana above kanji) can help accelerate your ability to read visual novels, but it isn't a 100% perfect solution, since parser programs often make odd choices for the furigana. If you just want to read slice-of-life VNs (moege, in other words), it might take you a relatively short amount of time to achieve your goal, as it is unlikely you will encounter any unusual kanji usages that would make a parser stumble. It's when you delve into the harder visual novels that you'll end up testing the limits of your understanding.
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Since you said a harem ending isn't necessary and you want light and funny...
Floral Flowlove - well, if you ignore the fact that is a nakige.
Kin'iro Loveriche - Same as above
Shin Koihime Musou (obviously)
Yomegami (whenever it comes out, as it is JAST doing the localization)
Osananajimi wa Daitouryou (My Girlfriend is President)
Onigokko
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I have the physical version, but as far as I know, the download version was only released through DMM, sadly.
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4 hours ago, AmaranthYeager said:
VNDB is very confusing to use, but I'm sure I can figure it out. Thank you very much
??? How is it confusing? It doesn't give you random results for tags, nor does it provide extra results if you get the title right (which are both the case with other sites where you can search for visual novels). You can even choose to search for individual characters if you don't know the name of the game... *shakes his head*
For your search above, there are relatively few gameplay hybrids that don't at least have a few nonconsensual scenes. I wanted to recommend Ikusa Megami Zero and Verita for their sheer plot quality, but there are nonconsensual scenes in both.
Like LostPomegranate says, Utawarerumono is a great series that has been remade and modernized, as well as being easy to obtain on Steam.
Death End re:Quest and its sequel also come to mind as decent choices. My only warning is that both games lean towards horror and the gameplay, while not horrible, is only serviceable.
Last of all, Fate/Extra is getting a remake, so that is something to look forward to as someone looking for VN Hybrids.
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Umm... just to be clear, it was apparent that some of the questions were not really a good fit, since there is no gameplay in a straight visual novel except clicking and making choices... Also, I think most people who have played an AI-generated VN will say they produce nothing but trash *winces at the bad memories*
Asking about non-universal (or at least uncommon) features as part of a survey about the importance of certain features will probably only confuse any results you receive...
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Assuming project is dead, locking thread for further posts.
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36 minutes ago, flunitazene said:
hi hi, ive been playing vns for a little bit but i never knew there were any forums for it!! nice 2 meet u all :3
*Clephas's innumerable tentacles writhe in welcome, his insanity-inducing form undulating happily at the entry of a new member of the community*
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The incest fad burnt out for a while, then their owners started more companies doing harem and less dark, less plot-focused visual novels. Hulotte and Cube, for instance...
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I'm just interpreting the ending names, but it looks like the first two heroines are nonstop NTR routes with no non-NTR endings. The other routes seem to have one ending each that is a happy ending, but I can't tell whether there is NTR just looking at that. The 'happy endings' (based on the ending names) are: 愛の入院生活 それでも愛してる 俺が見舞いに走る理由
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7 hours ago, Okarin said:
For the same reasons people don't get into Subahibi: it's too edgy.
School Days is a particular style of VN that's a bit far removed from your usual moege- and moege is the thing that sells like hotcake.
It's not just that... School Days' biggest flaw is the degree to which the protagonist's personality changes route by route. There is very little consistency in his character, which makes the whole experience that much less believable than the average game of the type. While most JVN protagonists are pretty templated (making the exceptions really stand out), School Days' protagonist is a different template depending on the route... and most of those templates aren't really ones people who read this sort of VN want to experience. The anime showed off the 'selfish adolescent man-whore' template, which was pretty much his worst version, but that only serves to show how the writers essentially wrote him as a different character depending on the route.
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2 hours ago, Jackletter98 said:
It doesn't have to be on the same level as White Album 2 or Sekai de Ichiban Dame na Koi but at least some drama in the relationship.
It is so boring when most VNs just have the couple in their route do nothing. There is no conflict. Nothing happens.
Could you guys recommend some VNs with actual drama in there.
Assuming you don't want action-focused games, though some of those have some of the best drama. Keep in mind that the death of drama in SOL games started fairly early, with Da Capo. Finding mostly SOL games with actual drama in them is pretty hard.
Semiramis no Tenbin- Adversarial relationship between the protagonist and Ami for much of their relationship. While he tends to be more supportive with the other heroines, there is still a lot of personal drama in each route with the exception of Sunao's, which is essentially a bad ending.
Akagoei (series)- Most of the paths in Akagoei have the protagonist at odds with the heroine to some degree, though it varies from main heroine to main heroine.
Hikoukigumo no Mukougawa- Basically Eiri's path is what you want, no to the others.
Moshimo Ashita ga Harenaraba- Nakige but the drama in the heroine paths is pretty intense at times, somewhat dated visuals though.
Mirai Nostalgia, Chrono Clock, Hapymaher- Purple Soft games.
Konata yori Kanata Made- Might be too dated for you, utsuge. However, massive unavoidable drama in all paths.
Ruitomo- Varying levels of personal drama in each path.
Non-Fantasy/Sci-fi Minori games- Most of them have what you want, but I hate Minori, so I'm not going to go into details.
Ojousama wa Gokigen Naname- Butler protagonist, psychotic older-sister type antagonist, old rich family, chaos, greed, and general financial mayhem and plotting. Might be too much drama for you.
Soshite Hatsukoi ga Imouto ni Naru- I honestly recommend this one for a number of reasons, not the least of which because all the heroines and the protagonist are pretty mentally scarred and thus drama is unavoidable.
Oni ga Kuru- Drama, incest, perversion, etc... the relationships are pretty messed up in this one.
Oni Uta- Same scenario designer (though not writer) as above, similarly messed up.
Kanojo-tachi no Ryuugi- Messed up drama mixed with vampire siblings almost from the beginning. Same scenario designer as above.
Love Destination- Similarly messy story, different team. Guy reaches the end of his lifespan alone and gets dropped back in his distant past when he was a student, whereupon he tries to create connections. The drama can be pretty extreme, depending on the heroine/s.
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Shizuku and Shiranui's relationship in Evolimit. Their relationship is partly rivalry, part friendship, part comrades, and part siblings. They met while holding similar ambitions for different reasons and has the same sense of alienation from the other members of the crew. As a result, their relationship is ridiculously tight and one of equals. The formation of the romantic aspect of the relationship took a number of years (with neither of them even realizing it was happening), lol. It is easily one of the deepest relationships I've seen in a VN story, though it is actually typical of Higashide (the writer) who likes to create powerful relationships between his true heroines and his protagonist.
Edit: I recommended this one because the Shiranui/Shizuku dynamic is one of the very few 'relationships of equals' that I've seen in VNs in general. For better or worse, most JVNs portray romantic relationships where one side is dominant for one reason or another.
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7 hours ago, Silvz said:
By this do you mean cracks for Japanese-only vns or English vns as well? Just curious, since I believe that most but not every VN is released DRM-free in English nowadays, specially with Jast.
Talking about JVNs. As far as I know, the in-english games aren't being treated this way, but then, I either buy or don't bother with English versions, so it isn't relevant to me.
Not all cracks are infected, but the percentage is high enough that isn't worth the risk to use them, even if you just want to unlock a game that runs too heavily because of the drm (another issue softdenchi causes, as I once saw it using half a gig of RAM). I had to reformat one of my PCs after cracking a few games I bought off of DMM three years ago, because the bitcoin miners included in the package were occupying most of my RAM and my graphics card's capacity.
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You can't, if you are buying from them. The companies who put the games on DMM wanted the drm, so those who buy the games have to live with it.
I agree that softdenchi is way too intrusive for a drm though, and I had to stop it from sending random data packets to its servers even when I wasn't playing the games it was supposedly protecting. Easily my least-favorite drm. Pretty sure it doubles as a spyware corporation. That's the primary reason I never buy anything from DMM anymore... I went back to buying physical only for games only hosted on DMM.
Edit: Also, I don't advise you resort to using cracks, as most of the cracks for visual novels produced today are made by the same few groups of Chinese hackers who tack malware onto them. Don't be surprised if your identity gets stolen or you end up having to completely reformat your computer to get rid of bitcoin miners.
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7 hours ago, Rolly said:
Damn I really hoped this would get translated one day.. I wonder what happened to the translator
Real life or burn-out, most likely.
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The ones I like are rarely voted the highest on the polls, in my experience... When they are it is because they are the true heroine of a VN with a true path, and the entire VN was designed to make you love them, lol.
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Shigure Sora from Devils Devel Concept comes to mind. He is devoid of conventional morals though he keeps his word once given and fulfills obligations he has made. He is absolutely brutal to his enemies and lacks the natural 'brakes' people usually have.
Yurikago Yori Tenshi Made's protagonist is also inhuman and utterly ruthless when dealing with enemies. However, his personality is a weird mix of unleashed id and mechanical bloodlust with specific conditions that set him off. The characters in the VN are all broken to some degree, with Ritia being the most overtly gone (completely insane). It probably isn't precisely what you are looking for though.
Technically Zephyr from Silverio Vendetta could be considered an evil protagonist, as his personality is complete trash. He seems pretty dopey most of the time, but he is pretty much a conglomeration of all the things wrong with humankind in general, lol. Oddly, this doesn't bother you when you read the story, but he is still trash, hahaha.
Edit: Added a few.
Nemurenu Hitsuji to Kodoku na Ookami- Basically a hitman protagonist with perpetual insomnia ends up with a psychotic girlfriend with endless bloodlust.
Ouju no Shima- Didn't actually play it, but by the way a friend described it, it matches your desires.
Maggot Baits- Honestly I can't outright recommend it, but the entire story is about extreme moral corruption. If there was a non-ero version (since almost all the ero scenes are also guro/torture scenes) I could recommend it, but as it is, I can only say that it is probably what you want. Someone else would have recced it eventually.
Muramasa- The protagonist doesn't start out evil, but depending on the path, he falls to evil.
Paradise Lost- Masada's first real success. There are no 'good guys' in this story, simply due to the nature of the world it is based in. The protagonist himself is a prime example of evil, as are the enemies he fights.
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Thread locked because it doesn't look like any kind of constructive conversation is going to come out of it. Please do not replicate or continue this thread elsewhere.
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14 minutes ago, Somebody said:
Now even the website rules are specifically tailor made in accordance with their agenda.
You're missing the point. Those rules pre-date your posts on vndb, thus you are the one at fault. Unlike X, where there are hidden rules (basically anything Elon Musk doesn't like gets pushed down, and anyone who opposes him directly loses their verification), the rules are clearly stated. You made the choice to ignore them so you could 'make a point'. There was no conspiracy against you, nor was there a mysterious hidden agenda that you were exposing. You simply don't like certain viewpoints and decided to go out of your way to make a mess.
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3 hours ago, Kirashi said:
From what author said he deleted everything that seemed inconvenient for him without a word at first and banned him at the end, meaning there was no room for discussion in the first place. If that's not taking things personnaly I would like to know your definition on the matter. Also I didn't read the whole vndb thread because it was too long but I am unsure there was any rule break that deserved a ban.
From vndb's discussion board rules.
1c. Hate speech, racism, discrimination and anti-LGBTQ sentiments are unwelcome here. Of course, considering the nature of this database, it's fine to discuss these topics in the context of visual novels, but VNDB is not the place to relate these topics to the real world. Don't use visual novels as a proxy to voice your opinions about reality.
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9 hours ago, Kirashi said:
If by "appropriate" you mean how you acted in this forum in the past I can understand why you trust him so much.
Anyway, since Yorhel seems to make this matter personnal there is nothing anyone can do, under the risk to be trashed or banned. The only good side is since "Engaged in Group Sex of Multiple Males, Females and at least one Gender Nonconforming Individual" doesn't actually mean anything I assume very few people will use it.
It kinda sounds like the thread author was the one decided to make it personal... even though the entire thing isn't worth arguing about in the first place. If someone has time to nitpick over gender political tags, then they also have time to be doing something more constructive... like reading visual novels or watching anime.
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Sorry but I didn't find your highly politically influenced argument convincing at all. I suggest you take a step back and recognize that your views are excessively emotional on the matter. To be blunt, please don't bring America's perverse and dogmatic tribal politics onto the forum. You have the right to feel the way you do, but please refrain from trying to 'convince' everyone that yours is the only possible logical argument.
Regardless of what 'views' Yorhel and the others might have (which I don't care about one way or the other), vndb serves its purpose of making people aware of new VNs when they come out and retaining basic information on VNs in general. I don't demand anything more of it, and I honestly don't care if they fiddle with tags for random reasons. It's their website and their efforts to maintain it are what have kept it alive for so long. Without vndb, finding visual novels would be much, much harder and more haphazard, like with anime and manga (which have way too many half-assed database sites with horrible structure that makes it hard to find anything). 'Rival' sites don't last long for a simple reason... those sites never manage to be convenient and relatively easy to search even if you don't know an individual visual novel's name.
Edit: I should also note that vndb is not primarily or even secondarily a social media site. Ultimately, it is a database where one can (with a sense of moderation and responsibility) post information and reviews for VNs. Treating it like the poisonous swamps that are Reddit, Facebook, and X does no one any good. The social element has its issues, but the bare bones nature of the social features shows how little interest there is in that aspect in the first place. While it is technically a community, it is a community whose focus is on a niche medium of entertainment, not a place for people to rave about political viewpoints.
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On 12/27/2024 at 2:47 AM, Somebody said:
Hello, I couldn't find any kind of support section so I didn't knew where to ask this question. Is there any kind of word limit or character limit for forum posts?
As far as I know, there is no word limit. I've never hit it, anyway, despite frequently posting walls of text early on. In addition, the massive posts by people advertising their VNs don't seem to have any issues that way, so you shouldn't need to worry.
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People still post, it is just that it is more likely to be people asking about technical issues than anything else. I don't like to sit on Discord, because it is too hard to keep track of conversations, and I prefer to just skim static posts rather than deal actual real time conversations. For visits, we still get plenty, because people utilize all the old posts for technical help on VN issues all the time. A lot of the other sites that had that information are long gone, so a lot of VN-readers treat us like some kind of archive for troubleshooting.
We do still get people asking for recs, but more and more it is stuff I can't get involved in, since I really only played untranslated VNs after the first six months or so.
Incidentally, the amount of bots is probably about ten times what you think. I prune at least ten for every one you report, because most just put their adlinks in their profiles rather than posting threads nowadays.
Edit: also the ghost bots that post meaningless and seemingly harmless posts that the bot goes back and edits a month or more later to add a link to. The key for those is that they tend to use real people names for their handles... so newbies, please don't use your real name or something that might be a real name for your handle, because it is automatically suspicious here, lol.
Are VNs still being made? Any standouts in the past decade?
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Sadly, in terms of games being made, the numbers started steadily decreasing back in 2019 and Covid pretty much killed the industry in Japan. As for VNs made between 2015-2020, there were a pretty good number of excellent releases. However, there is very little worthy of note made after 2020.