Dreamysyu Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Trickay said: I'm playing steam version of muv luv alternative, I imagine that the first scene you're talking about is where Takeru Reveal hidden contents Not really. Spoiler To make sure, you are reading the part where they infiltrate the original hive at Kashgar, right? If so, you can open the next spoiler. Edit: don't open the spoiler if you are still at the Sadogashima chapter!!! Spoiler It's the scene from Sumika's memories where she was reduced to a single brain. This scene was even more disturbing in the 18+ version. Edited March 22, 2018 by Dreamysyu Trickay 1 Quote
Inorin Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dreamysyu said: Hide contents To make sure, you are reading the part where they infiltrate the original hive at Kashgar, right? If so, you can open the next spoiler. Reveal hidden contents It's the scene from Sumika's memories where she was reduced to a single brain. This scene was even more disturbing in the 18+ version. No I think he was referring to Operation 21st. the Sadogashima Hive operation Operation Ouka comes much later. Edited March 22, 2018 by wei123 Trickay 1 Quote
Inorin Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Trickay said: I'm playing steam version of muv luv alternative, I imagine that the first scene you're talking about is where Takeru Reveal hidden contents takes advantage of (in my case) Meiya before running away to the parallel world after Marimo dies? For me, even though censored it was a very impactful moment, and the conversations and lack of eye contact later certainly imply the dreadful deed happened. I think I'm likely near the end now, though I believe, please don't spoil, a horrid twist awaits me... I can feel it, as (avoid reading this Thyndd as I'm 30hrs in now) Reveal hidden contents Sumika's memories are hinting that Takeru is going to have no place to return to, just speculation, I don't want an answer. Have to take my hat of to Yuuko, she literally thought of everything. However I would like to know how much more reading time I have? I'm about to storm the hive with Sumika in the XG-70. However I feel like I maybe building up for a big twist, not an ending. I'm so glad I did all routes in Extra / Unlimited, so many little links and nods in Alternative. You're not at Episode 10, are you? In that case, you still have a long way to go. Edited March 22, 2018 by wei123 Trickay 1 Quote
Dreamysyu Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 15 minutes ago, wei123 said: No I think he was referring to Operation 21st. Operation Ouka comes much later. I see. Then it's good that I used double spoilers. I edited my previous post, just in case. Trickay 1 Quote
Trickay Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Dreamysyu said: I see. Then it's good that I used double spoilers. I edited my previous post, just in case. Thank you both so much wei123 and Dreamysyu, I am indeed at Operation 21st, I'm quite the slow reader probably because I like to let the dialogue fully play? I'm truly glad that you edited you posts, I didn't read anything I shouldn't have, but more importantly you let me know that I have much much more reading time to go. This is fantastic news as I do not want this roller-coaster ride to finish! So I've learnt I have a semi-impactful, as censored, h-scene on the horizon... I had the 18+ patch for Extra / Unlimited as was a backer; which was totally worth it just for Marimo. I take it once I reach this 'impactful' scene it might be worth a google? That said I probably won't as I've generally avoided doing any googling for fear of spoilers, which is ridiculous considering I've had another version of the game sat on my HDD for many years now. If I had known I was going to enjoy this much I should have just read Muv Luv Alternative earlier. That said I'm glad I paid for it. Quote
Thyndd Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Here I am just barely at episode 6 of Alternative. I must be careful not to read any spoilers Things are starting to move ever so slowly. Spoiler I find amusing all the bashing and roasting to the US Keep it going. So that is the role Sagiri is playing in Alternative and the reason why Ayamine's route was kind of important in Extra, huh? All this political and military embroilment is getting a little confusing, and I'm not sure who is responsible for what exactly at this point. The satellite incident must've been the US doing, but without the support of the pro-Alternative V faction, right? Because I think Yuuko said that it was not in their best interest that Alternative IV failed right away, before completing all the planning for Alternative V. Now they are ganging up, and with what objective, I wonder? Perhaps the US has agreed to wait till Alternative V before launching an offensive to the BETA? I mean, weren't they anti-Alternative for whatever reason? I wonder what they are planning. Dreamysyu 1 Quote
Inorin Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Thyndd said: Here I am just barely at episode 6 of Alternative. I must be careful not to read any spoilers Things are starting to move ever so slowly. Hide contents I find amusing all the bashing and roasting to the US Keep it going. So that is the role Sagiri is playing in Alternative and the reason why Ayamine's route was kind of important in Extra, huh? All this political and military embroilment is getting a little confusing, and I'm not sure who is responsible for what exactly at this point. The satellite incident must've been the US doing, but without the support of the pro-Alternative V faction, right? Because I think Yuuko said that it was not in their best interest that Alternative IV failed right away, before completing all the planning for Alternative V. Now they are ganging up, and with what objective, I wonder? Perhaps the US has agreed to wait till Alternative V before launching an offensive to the BETA? I mean, weren't they anti-Alternative for whatever reason? I wonder what they are planning. You should enjoy the respite you have now because things start to get more intense in episode 7. Edited March 24, 2018 by wei123 Quote
avecerno Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Trying to play Kieta Sekai to Tsuki to Shoujo. No hook code though (and ITHVNR doesn't capture anything from the 4 threads) so I have to do it the harder way, I guess. Quote
Dreamysyu Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 7 hours ago, Thyndd said: Here I am just barely at episode 6 of Alternative. I must be careful not to read any spoilers Spoiler 7 hours ago, Thyndd said: I find amusing all the bashing and roasting to the US Keep it going. Yeah, definitely amusing. 7 hours ago, Thyndd said: The satellite incident must've been the US doing, but without the support of the pro-Alternative V faction, right? Because I think Yuuko said that it was not in their best interest that Alternative IV failed right away, before completing all the planning for Alternative V. Now they are ganging up, and with what objective, I wonder? Perhaps the US has agreed to wait till Alternative V before launching an offensive to the BETA? I mean, weren't they anti-Alternative for whatever reason? I wonder what they are planning. Hmm, interesting thoughts. I kind of assumed that it was orchestrated by the Alternative V supporters, but, honestly, I don't remember that part well enough to say anything clearly. Thyndd 1 Quote
Trickay Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 12 hours ago, wei123 said: You should enjoy the respite you have now because things start to get more intense in episode 7. You're right Thyndd, I really appreciate the lengths members go on here with spoiler tags, thank you all. How're you enjoying the bit you're on? Totally agree with wei123 things are indeed tense now. I completely understand why you were all discussing censorship earlier, luckily for me I got a pretty corrupt imagination so that scene was super impactful... Scene question / spoilers. I'm guessing all they did was crop / zoom on Sumika's face for steam version? Did they go as far as limb removal? Only ask given the gore of Marimo's death. Not that it matters, even censored I was not expecting that. Christ I even held my face in my hand in utter disbelieve. Such impact. Thyndd 1 Quote
Inorin Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Trickay said: Scene question / spoilers. Reveal hidden contents I'm guessing all they did was crop / zoom on Sumika's face for steam version? Did they go as far as limb removal? Only ask given the gore of Marimo's death. Not that it matters, even censored I was not expecting that. Christ I even held my face in my hand in utter disbelieve. Such impact. From what I heard, the Steam version only censored the genitals. And yes, that's arguably the most impactful scene in the game. As if the Yokohoma Base incident, Operation 21st and Defense of Yokohoma Base weren't enough to tear us apart , age decided to rub salt into our wounds. And our eyes. Looks like you're almost at Operation Ouka. Have fun! Edited March 24, 2018 by wei123 Trickay 1 Quote
Dreamysyu Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Trickay said: Scene question / spoilers. Hide contents I'm guessing all they did was crop / zoom on Sumika's face for steam version? Did they go as far as limb removal? Only ask given the gore of Marimo's death. Not that it matters, even censored I was not expecting that. Christ I even held my face in my hand in utter disbelieve. Such impact. Spoiler I looked up youtube walkthroughs for both versions and compared this scene there, and it looks like they actually completely redrew the CGs for it in the Steam versions. The imagery in the 18+ is way more disturbing and sexual, but it looks like they still didn't show the actual dismemberment. Trickay 1 Quote
Ranzo Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 Second route in Aoishiro is completed! On the next! I'm liking this VN more and more the longer I play it, the first route was a bit weak but this last one? Damn it was great! Plk_Lesiak 1 Quote
Thyndd Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 Muv-Luv Alternative heavy spoilers, warning: Spoiler Welp, there goes Marimo-chan, poor thing. That was totally unexpected dude... and pretty fucked up, as fucked up it is the employment of drugs to control the soldiers on the battle field. Damn, things sure took a very dark turn. Now what is running through my mind is the fact that Takeru had PTSD. What was the traumatic incident that caused it? I don't think it was anything like the first attack of the BETA during the previous timeline, when he fainted. That wouldn't be enough. I'm guessing something big happened after the ending of Unlimited that he can't remember. We'll see. Trickay and Dreamysyu 2 Quote
Dreamysyu Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Thyndd said: Muv-Luv Alternative heavy spoilers, warning: Reveal hidden contents Welp, there goes Marimo-chan, poor thing. That was totally unexpected dude... and pretty fucked up, as fucked up it is the employment of drugs to control the soldiers on the battle field. Damn, things sure took a very dark turn. Now what is running through my mind is the fact that Takeru had PTSD. What was the traumatic incident that caused it? I don't think it was anything like the first attack of the BETA during the previous timeline, when he fainted. That wouldn't be enough. I'm guessing something big happened after the ending of Unlimited that he can't remember. We'll see. Welcome to our club. Also, Spoiler On 3/20/2018 at 12:47 AM, Dreamysyu said: Oh, yeah... I literally couldn't sleep at night after I got to that scene. And it's one of the rare cases of a jumpscare done right. Edited March 25, 2018 by Dreamysyu Trickay and Thyndd 2 Quote
Inorin Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 35 minutes ago, Thyndd said: Muv-Luv Alternative heavy spoilers, warning: Hide contents Welp, there goes Marimo-chan, poor thing. That was totally unexpected dude... and pretty fucked up, as fucked up it is the employment of drugs to control the soldiers on the battle field. Damn, things sure took a very dark turn. Now what is running through my mind is the fact that Takeru had PTSD. What was the traumatic incident that caused it? I don't think it was anything like the first attack of the BETA during the previous timeline, when he fainted. That wouldn't be enough. I'm guessing something big happened after the ending of Unlimited that he can't remember. We'll see. Quote
Ranzo Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Thyndd said: Muv-Luv Alternative heavy spoilers, warning: Hide contents Welp, there goes Marimo-chan, poor thing. That was totally unexpected dude... and pretty fucked up, as fucked up it is the employment of drugs to control the soldiers on the battle field. Damn, things sure took a very dark turn. Now what is running through my mind is the fact that Takeru had PTSD. What was the traumatic incident that caused it? I don't think it was anything like the first attack of the BETA during the previous timeline, when he fainted. That wouldn't be enough. I'm guessing something big happened after the ending of Unlimited that he can't remember. We'll see. Ah yep we were all waiting for you to get to that scene. Now here is when the shit really starts going down. Spoiler But yeah I remember just how incredibly shocked I was when it happened. No build up just pure shock and horror. Edited March 25, 2018 by Ranzo Trickay 1 Quote
Thyndd Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 16 minutes ago, wei123 said: Oh yeah, thanks... that's music to my ears 4 minutes ago, Ranzo said: Ah yep we were all waiting for you to get to that scene. Now here is when the shit really starts going down. 53 minutes ago, Dreamysyu said: Welcome to our club. Also, Reveal hidden contents It's a really impactful scene, no doubt about it, but I dunno, it didn't quite make me sick and I don't think I'll have any problems sleeping at night. Perhaps I already became insensitive to this kind of stuff? Or perhaps it's just that I did expect something like that to happen. I mean, not precisely THAT, but since everybody talks about how shocking MuvLuv is I assumed some shit like that was coming. Whatever, I'll probably have to swallow my words in the near future, so I'd better say no more Quote
Dreamysyu Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, Thyndd said: It's a really impactful scene, no doubt about it, but I dunno, it didn't quite make me sick and I don't think I'll have any problems sleeping at night. Perhaps I already became insensitive to this kind of stuff? Or perhaps it's just that I did expect something like that to happen. I mean, not precisely THAT, but since everybody talks about how shocking MuvLuv is I assumed some shit like that was coming. Whatever, I'll probably have to swallow my words in the near future, so I'd better say no more Spoiler Well, sorry if we spoiled you. Yeah, that's why it's usually better go completely blind in most VNs. In case of MuvLuv, however, most people would drop it at Extra, so some light spoiling is, sadly, necessary to make people interested. I personally didn't expect at all that something like that was going to happen, that's why the impact was so high. Most of scenes before that more or less suggested that people don't die in this series. Than this scene that came absolutely out of nowhere, with its grotesque imagery and completely messed up things that follow right after that. Well, I guess, it's all depends on the individual. Trickay 1 Quote
Thyndd Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dreamysyu said: Hide contents Well, sorry if we spoiled you. Yeah, that's why it's usually better go completely blind in most VNs. In case of MuvLuv, however, most people would drop it at Extra, so some light spoiling is, sadly, necessary to make people interested. I personally didn't expect at all that something like that was going to happen, that's why the impact was so high. Most of scenes before that more or less suggested that people don't die in this series. Than this scene that came absolutely out of nowhere, with its grotesque imagery and completely messed up things that follow right after that. Well, I guess, it's all depends on the individual. Oh, no no, don't you guys worry, that's no more of a spoiler than simply knowing what genre I am reading. And sure enough, I would have never made it to Alternative if I thought everything was like Extra, and so far I'm really enjoying the journey, so I have to thank you for that. You especially, Dreamy, being the one who convinced me to give it a try. Dreamysyu 1 Quote
r0xm2n Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 Chapter 2 of Himawari..... Spoiler I'm now convinced that a spacestation can be a special place in hell. The game is really doing quite the job of painting this spacestation as an incredibly lonely place. Aqua and the others are little more than prisoners in an ice cold prison in orbit. Quote
r0xm2n Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 Sorry for the double post .... but chapter 2 of Himawari just turned into a mind screw..... Spoiler I was jokingly thinking "he's a bit of a mad scientist", but really thought nothing of it...... ... even though he has fake feelings for his adopted daughter..... .... then cue Souichirou's subtle heel turn. And you think little by little on what it means, and it gets more and more sinister, and it starts to really hit you... ..... then you remember all the forshadowing going on throughout the entire chapter. Turns out Aqua was absolutely right when "she wasn't acting herself".... inherited memories man.... .... and apparently Aries knew what was going on, when she said earlier "you can replace her".... Quote
milkteebaby Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) Not a VN, but I'm trying to get through The Evil Within 2. A huge improvement over the first one, but scarier, so I'm having a hard time progressing ;; (i don't wanna leave this relatively safe alleyway and go into the street) long Live the Queen. Not as fun as everyone made it out to be :/ Edited March 26, 2018 by milkteebaby Quote
Dergonu Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 Started playing my first TLed VN in like, over a year, (Kikokugai) thanks to @Zenophilious bugging me about it until I finally caved. (/ω\) Played a couple of hours so far, and man, I'm loving this. Might end up just reading it all today. We'll see. MaggieROBOT 1 Quote
Orakana Newbie Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 Currently play Katawa Shoujo. and yeah, This very cool . For my first OELVN I high rated for this one. And because of this, I interested for Try another OELVN ( I think I need some recommendation) . I'm not really know about OELVN (and, hey, I just started it for try it this week ) and yeah, Really, We can't judge VN just from their arts/Graphic. ( Deep into my heart, I has little dream, katawa shoujo can get Japanese Voice Acting ) Then, I starting for learn Ren'py. my programming is good enough for starting debut. but I just has single problem for starting my own VN... : My drawing is fckin bad Quote
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