Darklord Rooke Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Unless you've been sick or (suspiciously) indisposed, you may have realised that reddit was doing a census. Well, the results are in (with over 500 participants, you sad, sad individuals) and you can go over the results in full on the thread below. If you'd rather a short summary, I'll provide that for you guys here. https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/3ogp56/rvisualnovels_census_results/Average age - 22ish. Not surprising that VNs are a young people's medium. A nasty man would tie 'age' with the need for 'pictures' and conclude something rather inappropriate, but that's not me :3Gender breakdown - 90% males. Again not surprising, Reddit is a young man thing. Females consisted of 6% of respondents, at least half of which were also males.First VN - The vast majority experienced Katawa Shoujo first, with Fate/Stay Night and Ace Attorney a distant second and third. A cynical man would link Katawa Shoujo's tendency to be experienced first with the medium's low participation ratePath into Otakudom - Anime ranked highest, followed by vid games and manga. Don't ask me what this means, whether it's the Japanese medium you experienced first, the one which had the most influence over you, or something completely different is something I can't be bothered interpreting. I'll just press my lips together tightly and make thoughtful noises.The oldest VN you have read - Tsukihime is the oldest VN most people have read, followed by Phoenix Wright and Muv Luv, because they're mostly youngsters and will never experience the glory of 90s VNs. I grieve for them. Other VN communities you visit - Steam, VN discord (NFI), 4chan /vg, Fuwa, 4chan /jp. It should be noted that Fuwa has the largest number of lurkers, because we're all lazy here.Let's see... what else is interesting:Most important VN attributes - Story came in top, followed by writing then visuals. This means there's an awful lot of liars who took the Reddit survey.Favourite kind of dere - Dan was 1st, Kuu 2nd, Tsun third, Bambi didn't rate and I hate you all for it.Best translation - Grisaia was first, daylight 2nd and third.Favourite Western Publisher - Sekai was 1st, MG 2nd, JAST third. This is where Dovac sits in front of his monitor laughing at all the guys constantly shitting on him, then starts banging his desk with his fist, then pointing, then more fist banging, at which point he clutches his heart and tips off his chair onto the floor. A thumb will then catapult up into eyesight from below the desk giving an enthusiastic thumbs up, before slowly sinking down amidst gurgles and giggles. And there's a bunch of other stuff you can find by reading the thread. Edited October 12, 2015 by Rooke AaronIsCrunchy, Suzu Fanatic, Conjueror and 15 others 18 Quote
Down Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 I took this survey and the questions were not that interesting (some were jokes which was funny, some like the translation quality ones looked like jokes but weren't which wasn't that funny) although yay data.The last piece of data you mentioned is probably the most interesting one. I expected MG to sit there but I guess there's an overwhelming number of Grisaia and/or Clannad fans that have not idea what's in MG's catalog.And dovac seemed surprised about it but not that much, at least not in #visualnovels. Quote
Tyrael Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 500 respondents is pretty low tbh but I guess r/VisualNovels isn't that popular of a subreddit... Quote
Decay Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Umineko is #3 on the "best translation" list, absolute top fuckin' kek right there. Also 33%: "As long as I can follow the VN, I'll accept plenty of errors." This is why we can't have nice things. Tyrael and Darklord Rooke 2 Quote
Wonderfullyevil Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Umineko is #3 on the "best translation" list, absolute top fuckin' kek right there. Also 33%: "As long as I can follow the VN, I'll accept plenty of errors." This is why we can't have nice things.I love Umineko, but really? Quote
Nosebleed Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 I don't know whether to be amazed at the predictability of these results or not. I found the average amount of VNs owned to be the most interesting statistic with more than half of the respondants owning less than 10 VNs. Quote
Helvetica Standard Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Tsukihime? hahahaha. My first VNs were Seasons of Sakura, True Love, Nocturnal Illusion, Runaway City....................................now I feel old....oh yeah! and paradise heights and... Edited October 12, 2015 by Helvetica Standard XReaper 1 Quote
Narcosis Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 I'm not surprised people have such shit tastes regarding vn's. I grieve for our western community. Quote
Nosebleed Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 I pirate tons of stuff and I own more than 10 VNs as well. I wouldn't say commenters are full of crap, what I do think is that the average VN player doesn't even READ more than 10 VNs outside of the big titles, so I would point that out as one of the reasons for those numbers.I have friends who say they love VNs yet they've only played Grisaia and FSN.I also wouldn't be surprised if the titles that were picked as favorites in the census were mostly voted on by people who just played that single title and think it's better than the rarest of pepes. Tyrael, Narcosis and XReaper 3 Quote
Narcosis Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Hard to call those people visual novel players, to be honest. Playing with an RC plane doesn't make you a pilot, neither holding a rifle makes you a sniper. With that kind of attitude, it's hard to treat the results as firm; majority of so called "vn players" usually do not even scratch the surface and it's kind of... sad. Edited October 12, 2015 by Narcosis AaronIsCrunchy 1 Quote
the_dive Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 What I've taken from this is that the vast majority of people care little or even hate NTR. Not that surprising. Quote
Thunderbro Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 I can't say that I'm surprised about these results, they are pretty much what I would expect. In fact I fit the top portion of that list to a T. Quote
Chuee Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Umineko is #3 on the "best translation" list, absolute top fuckin' kek right there. Also 33%: "As long as I can follow the VN, I'll accept plenty of errors." This is why we can't have nice things.Along with things like Rewrite, Muv Luv, and Fate Stay Night. Granted nothing other than Grisaia got many votes, but people vote for that solely because they hear everyone say it is. XReaper 1 Quote
sanahtlig Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Sekai Project has a following on /r/visualnovels because, surprise, they post there a lot. Meanwhile I've never seen MangaGamer post there, and JAST only posts there to argue about censorship and "speculate" about restoration patches.Given that /r/visualnovels has become a gathering spot for those interested in OELVNs, I suppose it's not surprising that fans there would gravitate towards Sekai Project for that reason also. Edited October 12, 2015 by sanahtlig Quote
Tyrael Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 I pirate tons of stuff and I own more than 10 VNs as well. I wouldn't say commenters are full of crap, what I do think is that the average VN player doesn't even READ more than 10 VNs outside of the big titles, so I would point that out as one of the reasons for those numbers.I have friends who say they love VNs yet they've only played Grisaia and FSN.I also wouldn't be surprised if the titles that were picked as favorites in the census were mostly voted on by people who just played that single title and think it's better than the rarest of pepes.Nosebleed tho I'm probably one of those noobs you're referring to, since I've only played 20-ish VN's myself LiquidShu 1 Quote
Zodai Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 I pirate tons of stuff and I own more than 10 VNs as well. I wouldn't say commenters are full of crap, what I do think is that the average VN player doesn't even READ more than 10 VNs outside of the big titles, so I would point that out as one of the reasons for those numbers.I have friends who say they love VNs yet they've only played Grisaia and FSN.I also wouldn't be surprised if the titles that were picked as favorites in the census were mostly voted on by people who just played that single title and think it's better than the rarest of pepes.This could have to do with the sheer length of titles in the VN medium as a whole. I consider myself a VN fan but the sheer length of everything means I can't finish much between social life and writing stuff. Though I do have quite a few I've 'started', most about 60% to complete on the first route or so. Quote
Chuee Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Sekai Project has a following on /r/visualnovels because, surprise, they post there a lot. Meanwhile I've never seen MangaGamer post there,Mangagamer people mostly post on 4chan. Quote
Mugi Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Eiichi, Yuuji, and Kenji are on the "Worst male character" list..I don't think I can take these results seriously. Quote
XReaper Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 do you expected 14-15y old premature chicks beeing all over the dominant and leacherous type? Quote
Tyrael Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) do you expected 14-15y old premature chicks beeing all over the dominant and leacherous type?There's a fine line between being dominant and being an asshole See: Kenichi vs. Yuuji (especially during Michiru's route in Kajitsu) Edited October 13, 2015 by Tyrael Quote
Eclipsed Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 I think they messed up putting Chinami on the best female character list ● ᴥ ● Quote
Mugi Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 do you expected 14-15y old premature chicks beeing all over the dominant and leacherous type?There's a fine line between being dominant and being an asshole See: Kenichi vs. Yuuji (especially during Michiru's route in Kajitsu)I'm just baffled that those three are on there, but Kyousuke isn't. Kyousuke is the biggest piece of shit for like 95% of G-Senjou Kawasumi 1 Quote
Fred the Barber Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 fans that have no idea what's in MG's catalog.minori titles and a huge steaming pile of nukige? Ok, ok, fine, they've got a couple Innocent Grey titles, Higurashi ch. 1, and probably one or two other things I missed, but still, MG has a rather large catalog of what I consider mostly crap (results may vary based on taste, naturally). If so many people self-identify as appreciating story and writing, though, then they're probably not irrational in identifying Sekai Project as their favorite western publisher. In spite of a only-wikipedia-knows-how-many-years head start on SP, MG still has probably about the same number of published titles as SP that I actually have any interest in, and there's certainly more on the horizon from SP that I'm interested in than their is from MG. Quote
Decay Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Yuuji's kind of a shitheel, so whatever. The real marvel is how Best Mom Rosa didn't make it onto the worst female characters list. Quote
CeruleanGamer Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) So do I have to take everything read and presented from reddit with a pinch of salt or something? I can't take most of these responses seriously. What I've taken from this is that the vast majority of people care little or even hate NTR. Not that surprising.Bunch of vanilla army idiots. I visit Fakku and all other doujin websites all the time and I'm always fighting a one-man army vs the silly vanilla army. Everyone who hates netorare needs to have their significant other stolen from them. Netorare is love, netorare is life! Muahaha! Edited October 13, 2015 by CeruleanGamer Quote
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