Down Posted March 16, 2016 Posted March 16, 2016 IN GENERAL if you have complaints about the staff or if you want to appeal against a mod's action you should take it to a pm. However a few things may need to be discussed publicly, so use this thread for that. Since someone started such a discussion in another thread I'm moving the posts here - the first page of this thread is therefore out of context. Quote
bigfatround0 Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, littleshogun said: Mod @Zenophilious Sorry, guess I just caught up in emotion from @Maxel post. And if you said that Ren already learned from his lesson, then he should (Although if he's not, well I didn't know what to said other than lame for very polite word). But if my word was offensive to @Maxel, I'm sorry. I'm just once again slightly annoying of how he couldn't calm down and instead write his anger. Although I was also disappointed, but it's not like if @Maxel really need to represent the people who disappointed very much with this case imo. Once again I'm sorry. And about hate mail, well Ren will probably delete it anyway from the moment he saw the subject. Writing hate mail was more useless than not anyway, since Ren state that he didn't care about that anymore iirc. TLDR - I may be disappointed by this incident, but I'd far more disappointed by @Maxel reaction. And no, once again by saying he didn't look forward to it will not convince me at all. And to all of the people here who was disappointed because of this incident, let's just follow @OriginalRen progress for now (To me at least until December). The only reason that mod cares is cause originalren is a big favorite of the mods. They wouldn't want their precious ren to get his feelings hurt. Quote
littleshogun Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 @bigfatround0 Well, guess there was some interesting politic here lol. Either way politic or not didn't matter, and I think it's better to just see @OriginalRen work though imo. bigfatround0 1 Quote
bigfatround0 Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 14 minutes ago, littleshogun said: @bigfatround0 Well, guess there was some interesting politic here lol. Either way politic or not didn't matter, and I think it's better to just see @OriginalRen work though imo. And what's funny is that they don't even try to hide the blatant favoritism. Quote
Darklord Rooke Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 19 minutes ago, bigfatround0 said: The only reason that mod cares is cause originalren is a big favorite of the mods. They wouldn't want their precious ren to get his feelings hurt. Standard rule which applies to everyone. It's possible to be critical of a project without being abusive to the people involved in it. Abuse is 'not kosher' and that shit can be taken to 4chan, or wherever the sewer of the internet is currently housed. Besides which, calling for 'hate mail' is just childish. I miss the good old days, when people could express disappointment without lashing out at people. Quote
bigfatround0 Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, Rooke said: Standard rule which applies to everyone. It's possible to be critical of a project without being abusive to the people involved in it. Abuse is 'not kosher' and that shit can be taken to 4chan, or wherever the sewer of the internet is currently housed. Besides which, calling for 'hate mail' is just childish. I miss the good old days, when people could express disappointment without lashing out at people. Standard rule but you can't deny that they favor ren. They would probably straight up ban an offender in this case instead of giving them a warning. The mods have such a blatant raging boner for the guy that it's not even funny. They probably cream their pants every time ren likes one of their posts or replies to them. Quote
Decay Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 Except, it just happened and they got a warning? edit: lmao, dude, you have no fucking idea. Gonna be honest, a large portion of the mod staff actually finds him kind of annoying. Quote
bigfatround0 Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 Just now, Decay said: Except, it just happened and they got a warning? Except, I can't see the supposed call to spam ren with hate mail? Quote
Decay Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 I thought that's what littleshogun's post was but sometimes it's impossible to decipher his engrish. He also said he edited his post to remove "offensive" material, so... None of this has any relevance anyways. Here's the deal: Is ren making this up? Did he really lose the scripts? It doesn't matter. Nothing about the current situation changes at all. Do the mods play favorites? Yeah, a little, but there's nothing to even apply favoritism to here so I don't even know why this is being brought up. Actually, I don't know why you're so mad at literally everyone here. Why are the mods suddenly a target? littleshogun and bigfatround0 2 Quote
bigfatround0 Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Decay said: I thought that's what littleshogun's post was but sometimes it's impossible to decipher his engrish. None of this has any relevance anyways. Here's the deal: Is ren making this up? Did he really lose the scripts? It doesn't matter. Nothing about the current situation changes at all. Do the mods play favorites? Yeah, a little, but there's nothing to even apply favoritism to here so I don't even know why this is being brought up. Actually, I don't know why you're so mad at literally everyone here. Why are the mods suddenly a target? It's not relevant to the topic at hand but it was relevant to littleshogun's and to the mod post. I was offhandedly warning littleshogun to watch what he says in regards to ren cause the mods are basically in love with him. Their favoritism isn't really "a little". I only browse this sub occasionally but even I can see that their favorite poster is ren and that they treat him above others. The favoritism here is way more noticeable than in other forums I visit. And that's counting /r/VNs where you can clearly see mod favoritism there too. I'm also not mad at anyone. I don't really care about the situation at hand and I was actually in ren's favor on the /r/VNs thread. The mods are a target cause I don't like that the "little guy" gets treated unfairly compared to the more well known posters. Quote
bigfatround0 Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, Decay said: Well, you clearly don't know Ren's sordid history with the mods here if you think that, bigfatround. Because he is definitely not their favorite, lol. Maybe not all mods but certainly two of them off of the top of my head. Quote
Down Posted March 18, 2016 Author Posted March 18, 2016 50 minutes ago, bigfatround0 said: Their favoritism isn't really "a little". I only browse this sub occasionally but even I can see that their favorite poster is ren and that they treat him above others. The favoritism here is way more noticeable than in other forums I visit. And that's counting /r/VNs where you can clearly see mod favoritism there too. I'm also not mad at anyone. I don't really care about the situation at hand and I was actually in ren's favor on the /r/VNs thread. The mods are a target cause I don't like that the "little guy" gets treated unfairly compared to the more well known posters. If you don't have concrete complaints and examples to formulate I can't do much to alleviate your persecution complex =/ Quote
bigfatround0 Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 7 minutes ago, Down said: If you don't have concrete complaints and examples to formulate I can't do much to alleviate your persecution complex =/ It's not a persecution complex if it's the truth. You might not favor the guy but some of your fellow mods do. I also don't have concrete evidence cause I don't bother to waste my time and screenshot convos. I've talked to at least 2 people about this before on /r/vns and they both agree that he gets blatant favoritism. And they're big name posters here too so you know they know that ya'll do. Quote
Darklord Rooke Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 By the by, if this conversation goes on much longer, can the mods split this topic and move this specific discussion over to the Feedback forum? Label it something like 'accusations of mod inconsistency' or something. That way this topic doesn't get further derailed, which is looked poorly upon in the Translation project forum ... Quote However, this board will be more strictly moderated than the other boards. Due to the nature of the board, irrelevant chatter is discouraged. However, support, feedback, and relevant discussion is very much welcome in their respective threads. Posts which WILL be hidden include: Off-topic chatter* Excessively harsh criticism** *Posts that do not in any way involve or are relevant to the project team, their project, or the product they are working on. **Keep the criticism constructive. Criticism that begins to berate, belittle, or outright harass a project's efforts will be hidden. Source: Board rules Quote
bigfatround0 Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 I'm fine with this being made into a new thread. Maybe other people will chime in with their opinions. Quote
Down Posted March 18, 2016 Author Posted March 18, 2016 Let's do a test run then. This is more or less an experiment (discussions with drama potential like this one are usually taken to pms) so I might discontinue this thread in the end. Quote
bigfatround0 Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 I'm not gonna name names but there are at least two mods that I know for sure show blatant favoritism to originalren. The guy should have been banned long ago for all the shit he has done/posted but he gets a free pass cause one of the mods that like him has power over the other ones. Quote
Flutterz Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 20 minutes ago, bigfatround0 said: I'm not banned cause I complained publicly but if I had done it via PM I would have been banned long ago. It would have made you mods look worse and guilty about what I said. You do realize all of your posts can just be deleted, right? o.O In which case it wouldn't matter if you complained publicly or in a PM. You might want to call out the Illuminati too, you never know when they might come for you if you keep quiet... Quote
bigfatround0 Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, Flutterz said: You do realize all of your posts can just be deleted, right? o.O In which case it wouldn't matter if you complained publicly or in a PM. You might want to call out the Illuminati too, you never know when they might come for you if you keep quiet... They can but people will see them before they're deleted. I was actually expecting you to come out . Quote
Flutterz Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 1 minute ago, bigfatround0 said: They can but people will see them before they're deleted. I was actually expecting you to come out . Please, people on the internet have the memory span of a goldfish. So you have chuunibyou in addition to a persecution complex? Quote
Down Posted March 18, 2016 Author Posted March 18, 2016 The plot thickens. Flutterz confirmed for Ren shill. (Do use this thread instead of cluttering the old one plz) bigfatround0 and Rose 2 Quote
bigfatround0 Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, Nayleen said: Don't make me go through the thread to remove entitled whining. And whoever wants to accuse me of all people of favoritism can go shove their fedora up their asses. Too bad I don't have a fedora. I'm probably the most normal person out of everyone here. Bunch of weebs and otakus here. 2 minutes ago, Flutterz said: Please, people on the internet have the memory span of a goldfish. So you have chuunibyou in addition to a persecution complex? I don't have either. Quote
Nosebleed Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 These mods sound like pretty big douchebags. Ryechu and Flutterz 2 Quote
Decay Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 I really don't understand why Ren should have been banned. The number of banned users in Fuwanovel's history is actually very low, you have to do some really bad stuff or be extremely disruptive to the forums as a whole in order to get banned. What has Ren done? He has made a few troll posts here and there, and... ? Quote
bigfatround0 Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, Decay said: I really don't understand why Ren should have been banned. The number of banned users in Fuwanovel's history is actually very low, you have to do some really bad stuff or be extremely disruptive to the forums as a whole in order to get banned. What has Ren done? He has made a few troll posts here and there, and... ? Just cause the number of banned people is low doesn't mean that the guy doesn't deserve a ban. And I'm not actually advocating for his ban. Quote
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