Frontwing teases a big new project on twitter

[Nier]

Kickstarter for physical copies NAO!

[VLOCKUP]

So basically Front Wing decides to be like Age, Baseson and Type Moon?

[Fred the Barber]

8 hours ago, VLOCKUP said:

So basically Front Wing decides to be like Age, Baseson and Type Moon?

I mean, as a VN developer, you could be in far worse company than Âge and Type-Moon. Moreover, they published a game from a different IP (an IP you may not like, fine, but that doesn't change the fact) literally two days ago. Seems a little premature for this criticism.

[Nier]

9 hours ago, VLOCKUP said:

So basically Front Wing decides to be like Age, Baseson and Type Moon?

Frontwing released tons of title that aren't Grisaia related, they just released Corona Blossom two days ago. Type Moon released multitple titles from different IP.

[littleshogun]

On 10/29/2016 at 2:43 PM, VLOCKUP said:

So basically Front Wing decides to be like Age, Baseson and Type Moon?

At least they still attempted to release another big name without Grisaia if I may said (Island anyone), unlike both of age and Type Moon there. As for BaseSon, at least they didn't keep it with Koihime Musou entirely there, although it's still their major Cash Cow though. Just saying here.

[Toranth]

7 hours ago, littleshogun said:

At least they still attempted to release another big name without Grisaia if I may said (Island anyone), unlike both of age and Type Moon there. As for BaseSon, at least they didn't keep it with Koihime Musou entirely there, although it's still their major Cash Cow though (Not as bad as Fate which had pachinko game too iirc). Just saying here.

Yeah, it's not like they're acting like Circus.  How many Da Capo line products are there?

[littleshogun]

15 hours ago, Toranth said:

Yeah, it's not like they're acting like Circus.  How many Da Capo line products are there?

If I remember, quite a lot because Circus here tend to re-released Da Capo to console with new heroine and backport to PC. Not to mention many fandisc there. If I may said here, while I'm agree with that they still using Da Capo as their Cash Cow franchise and exploit it (Milking I mean) to the death so much that they infamous for it, at least compared to age they still had some attempt to made original game outside Da Capo franchise unlike age imo (The grade was another matter though). It's just my opinion here once again.

PS - Oh, by the way, I'd read that some post said that he was disappointed with another Grisaia announcement there and he said it's just like Frontwing goes Circus there (Exploiting Grisaia). Keep in mind that the writer was biggest fan for Grisaia (Not quite fanatic thankfully).

[VLOCKUP]

16 hours ago, Toranth said:

Yeah, it's not like they're acting like Circus.  How many Da Capo line products are there?

Oh yeah, I forgot about Circus. But I agree, while they did have their DC Empire, they still produce more original IPs as well.

I can forgive Baseson with Koihime series have H scenes. So it is not entirely a waste effort of cashing more money.

[Decay]

On 10/30/2016 at 1:00 PM, VLOCKUP said:

Oh yeah, I forgot about Circus. But I agree, while they did have their DC Empire, they still produce more original IPs as well.

I can forgive Baseson with Koihime series have H scenes. So it is not entirely a waste effort of cashing more money.

Yuki Koi Melt, Hatsumira, Island, and Corona Blossom. That's four totally original IPs created by Frontwing in the last two years. I really don't know what you're talking about if you're saying they don't create enough new settings. How many would be enough for you?

[Vorathiel]

http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/11/25/visual-novel-grisaia-phantom-trigger-vol-1-2-gets-simultaneous-release-date/

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Grisaia: Phantom Trigger vol 1 and 2, will be release on April 28.

Hi Yumiko, whatya doin' here?

[Mr Poltroon]

On 26/11/2016 at 3:41 AM, Vorathiel said:

http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/11/25/visual-novel-grisaia-phantom-trigger-vol-1-2-gets-simultaneous-release-date/

Hi Yumiko, whatya doin' here?

She looks like Yumiko?

I can see some semblance but that's more of an artstyle thing. Same artist tends to produce similar characters. Add to it the fact that she's using a generic school uniform and that the lighting has made her hair colour seem darker and she may look a bit like Yumiko. I don't really think so, though.

 

I'll also take the time to restate I'm entirely hype and will enjoy this even if it's terrible, or perhaps especially because it is.

[Dergonu]

5 minutes ago, Mr Poltroon said:

She looks like Yumiko?

I can see some semblance but that's more of an artstyle thing. Same artist tends to produce similar characters. Add to it the fact that she's using a generic school uniform and that the lighting has made her hair colour seem darker and she may look a bit like Yumiko. I don't really think so, though.

 

I'll also take the time to restate I'm entirely hype and will enjoy this even if it's terrible, or perhaps especially because it is.

Yeah it's just the artstyle being similar. Tbh, one glance at her eyes and you can see it isn't Yumiko.

 

I am really hyped for this as well. It honestly seems really cool.

[Decay]

That be Fukami Rena.

Spoiler

 

Edited November 27, 2016 by Decay

[Vorathiel]

Come on xD That was a little joke from me, but she looks almost exactly like Yumiko.




Even the eyes - this could be reflection of a blaze, fire. I know it isn't Yumiko, but resemblances are obvious.

Edited November 27, 2016 by Vorathiel

[Dergonu]

4 minutes ago, Vorathiel said:

Come on xD That was a little joke from me, but she looks almost exactly like Yumiko.




Even the eyes - this could be reflection of a blaze, fire. I know it isn't I know she is not Yumiko, but resemblances are obvious.

Haha, true. They are pretty similar indeed. Perhaps they went for something similar on purpose, seeing as there will most likely just be new characters, and not old ones in these games. Kinda like a, "okay Yumiko isn't here, but we want to make the game seem like its in the Grisaia universe so... here is her evil twin sister, Kumiko! :^)"

[Yuuko]

Or you could look at their older titles before Grisaia and see Grisaia girls are there.

[Mr Poltroon]

Can't quite tell whether this is an ED or an OP. Regardless, have it.

If we went by the website, it would appear this is an ED, however.

Certainly sounds like Grisaia, whatever that means. Probably the piano? God, I don't know. I can't distinguish instruments and I know sod all about music.

[Mr Poltroon]

Nice to wake up to the OP today:

It brings some new CGs (and that guy still looks like a girl) so they could have just went ahead and added some more to the website.

[Mr Poltroon]

Frontwing has finished uploading and translating the introduction videos for the characters.

I suppose this one is the one which surprised me most, if only because I did not know what to expect.

You can check the rest of them over on Frontwing's youtube channel or on the website.

Speaking of the website, they've also added character information for three more characters.

[Mr Poltroon]

Some interviews to the voice actresses were released on the website. One of the quotes interested me particularly:

"Tanezuki Atsumi here, voice of Murasaki. I hope Grisaia fans new and old will enjoy the game! Plenty more is planned after the first three volumes, so please look forward to the future of Phantom Trigger!"

So, it would appear that this will be an incomplete story after all, as earlier speculated. I don't exactly mind the approach, but I am interested in see how it'll be handled.

[Decay]

"More is planned" does not necessarily mean an incomplete story. There are many ways to do multi-part series where the individual stories feel complete, though I admit Japan doesn't seem great at that.

Edited February 17, 2017 by Decay

[Mr Poltroon]

7 minutes ago, Decay said:

"More is planned" does not necessarily mean an incomplete story. There are many ways to do multi-part series where the individual stories feel complete, though I admit Japan doesn't seem great at that.

Oh, certainly.
I did get the impression the story isn't finished from all their comments, however. I think every single one wrote about how they're looking forward to find out how it goes or how it ends.
Not entirely sure if that means they only wrote for a single volume or if they did the 3 volumes. Since one of them mentioned there's more beyond the three volumes, I might have assumed they already finished work for the three volumes. An unwise assumption.

[Mr Poltroon]

Grisaia: Phantom Trigger Prefundia Page:

(To fund physical versions and extra content, such as a manga being released in Japan)

http://prefundia.com/projects/view/a-grand-entrance-for-new-vn-series-grisaia-phantom-trigger/12084/#project-creator-dashboard

Looking at the Perfundia and FAQ, there's a few interesting tidbits:

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Release Date
Vol.1 & Vol.2: APRIL 28 2017 Worldwide Simultaneous Release
Vol.3: Summer 2017 (tentative)
Subsequent volumes are also planned for release in the future

I no longer understand the purpose of volumes I mean, couldn't you just call the two that are releasing simultaneously "Volume 1"?
I guess they intend to keep the price lower and more accessible per piece.

Speaking of more accessible,

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Q: Does Grisaia: Phantom Trigger have H-scenes? Will there be an 18+ patch?
A: Grisaia: Phantom Trigger was created and designed as an all-ages game, and therefore features no sexually explicit content. Accordingly, no restoration patch will be necessary, as the digital and physical versions will contain the exact same content. That being said, the manga adaptation features more adult-oriented content, as do many of the supplemental items we are offering (i.e. the artbook and tapestries).
However, please do note that the series does feature scenes of intense violence and language.

I think they're really pushing towards making this VN the least niche they can, and I do believe the Grisaia series has a little potential, with all the spy stuff and action stuff and funny stuff. But, well... there's already some people clamouring for H-Scenes, via stretch goal, for instance, so... heck. I'm not entirely sure this move will work out for them.

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Q: How many volumes will Phantom Trigger have?
A: Phantom Trigger is an ongoing series, with each volume comprising of a largely self-contained story. Currently the first four volumes of the game are in development, but the total final number of entires in the series is yet to be decided.

Disregarding the typo, this is interesting information. It looks like they're ready to make this story as long as the fanbase carries it.
I'm certainly curious and optimistic about this method. I mean, I am a Grisaia fanboy, I have some trust that they will be able to pull off interesting self contained stories for as long as needed until a finale arrives.
Like, have you seen the size of Grisaia no Kajitsu? They'd probably need some 10 volumes to match it.

Other interesting notes are how Phantom Trigger will include references to the Grisaia trilogy but playing the original is not necessary, and that, much like Corona Blossom, these releases will feature dual language. Widen the appeal.

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Things that are sorely missing are price for each individual volume (Looking at the Prefundia I'm guessing it's sitting at somewhere around 15 dollars -- though I find that a wee bit big for the wide appeal they seem to be going for) and their length. I imagine they're going to be around 5-10 hours each? How long was Corona Blossom? I don't imagine each of these volumes will be much bigger than those were, though if they're higher priced, they might.

[littleshogun]

@Mr Poltroon

Interesting info there in regard of Phantom Trigger. As for H scenes, the seiyuu credit should be giveaway that there will be no H scenes (Then again, most of the user who ask would be didn't knew in regard of pseudonym for eroge seiyuu. Probably). As for the goal, no comment for now.

PS - As for Corona Blossom length, not quite sure here but I would guess it's at 20 hours or so at the most.

[Soulless Watcher]

You know as long as I repress all of my concerns and personal grievances of Phantom Trigger being set in the "Grisiaia Universe" I actually can see this series working pretty well. I imagine the first couple of volumes will be pretty dull and the bog standard "military training" arc in which the characters will learn how to function as a cohesive unit, like the first season of RWBY and Muv Luv Unlimited. Things should pick up afterwards when the team is sent on actual missions, which hopefully will be worldwide. We could get some very MuvLuvesque social commentary on the role of developed nations in unstable countries and I'm sure some very interesting character building moments for our cast considering they are from various nationalities. Each volume could focus on a different part of the world with a different terrorist/rebel/criminal organization serving as an antagonist.