Nier Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 https://vndb.org/v1661 Frontwing is on a roll! Quote
yorikbad Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Why not https://vndb.org/v759 ? Ah... Steam doesn't allow lolicon, but it's ok with horrible 3D. I wish, Frontwing just stop doing this. Quote
Lambda Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 8 minutes ago, yorikbad said: Why not https://vndb.org/v759 ? Ah... Steam doesn't allow lolicon, but it's ok with horrible 3D. I wish, Frontwing just stop doing this. A lot of western countries in general don't allow lolicon... Like Canada where I live. If there's actually lolicon (that can't be reasonably avoided with a giant "these characters are 18+" sticker - i.e. a story element is that the characters are under 18 or they look very, very obviously under 18), then it's gonna be a lot harder for companies to license given the potential risks to their customers and lost revenue from not being able to sell it to entire countries. But yeah, this game isn't interesting to me, either. Can't even tell if it's a straight VN from that or an idol game, although vndb says it's all in 3D so. I'm most impatient for Frontwing to just smoothly get Himawari out already at this point... Quote
Decay Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 O...kay? This is a rather strange choice. I guess they really were serious about localizing everything they own if they're digging this deep. 27 minutes ago, yorikbad said: Why not https://vndb.org/v759 ? Ah... Steam doesn't allow lolicon, but it's ok with horrible 3D. I wish, Frontwing just stop doing this. There's that chinese VN on Steam that features a naked loli, so... Steam doesn't allow explicit sex. What you have beyond that doesn't matter so much. Maitetsu is eventually coming to steam, after all. Nier 1 Quote
yorikbad Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 7 minutes ago, Lambda said: A lot of western countries in general don't allow lolicon... Like Canada where I live. If there's actually lolicon (that can't be reasonably avoided with a giant "these characters are 18+" sticker - i.e. a story element is that the characters are under 18 or they look very, very obviously under 18), then it's gonna be a lot harder for companies to license given the potential risks to their customers and lost revenue from not being able to sell it to entire countries. 2 minutes ago, Decay said: There's that chinese VN on Steam that features a naked loli, so... Steam doesn't allow sex. What you have beyond that doesn't matter so much. Maitetsu is eventually coming to steam, after all. I know that. I was being sarcastic. Apparently, I failed. 7 minutes ago, Lambda said: But yeah, this game isn't interesting to me, either. Can't even tell if it's a straight VN from that or an idol game, although vndb says it's all in 3D so. I'm most impatient for Frontwing to just smoothly get Himawari out already at this point... I'm waiting for Island. So, every lowcost FrontWing's VN makes the waiting harder. 3 minutes ago, Decay said: Maitetsu is eventually coming to steam, after all. And Denpa I hope. Quote
Nier Posted October 31, 2016 Author Posted October 31, 2016 16 minutes ago, UnlimitedMoeWorks said: lol First, the new "Grisaia", and now this? Is Frontwing hoping to be the next juggernaut of the VN industry that will challenge Key/Visual Arts and Type Moon? This: https://vndb.org/v20194 is Frontwing's answer to this: https://vndb.org/v13774 While this: https://vndb.org/v1661 is Frontwing's answer to this: https://vndb.org/v4594 Quote
Nier Posted October 31, 2016 Author Posted October 31, 2016 5 minutes ago, Zenophilious said: Ewwww, more idol shite. Excuse me while I go throw up. Lol the only reason Xbox 360 sold so much in Japan was due to "idol shite" such as THE iDOLM@ASTER, Dream C Club and the likes. Enjoy: Quote
Mr Poltroon Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 4 minutes ago, Zenophilious said: Ewwww, more idol shite. Excuse me while I go throw up. Shhhh, every time people say this online they waste even more time. I'd like to read it sometime in the next few years As much as I find this particular title worth investigating, I really would like them to finish Himawari. Indeed. Very much so. Please hurry up, Frontwing. Are you reading this? I want you to finish it. I've expressed my wishes, so now feel free to do whatever it is you want to do. Now that you've read me complaining on the internet. Quote
Decay Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 8 minutes ago, UnlimitedMoeWorks said: Frontwing, I am disappointed in you. Grisaia becomes your biggest seller and now you try out other things hoping to make the same impact? And most of your recent works have been mediocre to just plain poor. An idol-inspired VN? Really? Uhh, no, I really don't think they expect this to make the same impact, at all. Are you saying Frontwing shouldn't attempt to have a diverse catalog? Nier and XReaper 2 Quote
Mr Poltroon Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 8 minutes ago, UnlimitedMoeWorks said: Frontwing, I am disappointed in you. Grisaia becomes your biggest seller and now you try out other things hoping to make the same impact? And most of your recent works have been mediocre to just plain poor. An idol-inspired VN? Really? Well, yes. Generally, their business is to sell VNs. If they get a big seller, it's only natural to "try out other things hoping to make the same impact". It's not like I particularly believe they think this'll be highly impactful, but if they don't try then... what do they do? "Oh, we got a big hit. Time to pack up and go out of business." Nandemonai, Nier, Decay and 1 other 4 Quote
Nier Posted October 31, 2016 Author Posted October 31, 2016 16 minutes ago, UnlimitedMoeWorks said: Frontwing, I am disappointed in you. Grisaia becomes your biggest seller and now you try out other things hoping to make the same impact? And most of your recent works have been mediocre to just plain poor. An idol-inspired VN? Really? Time Leap is a series that dates back from 2007, so it's not like it's a new title or anything. It probably was a series created in response to "THE iDOLM@STER"'s sucess which had tons of games, animes, mangas and the likes. THE iDOLM@ster: http://www.gamefaqs.com/games/franchise/1493-idolmster https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=83970 https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=13627 https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=103777 https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=87677 https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=83683 https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=87224 https://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=8218 https://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=9701 https://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=10585 https://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=5751 https://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=9283 D3 Publisher as a response went on to make their own "iDOLM@ster" too with "Dream C Club": http://www.gamefaqs.com/games/franchise/1363-dream-c-club We could say the same of Nitro+ with their "Super Sonico" which had games on PC, PS3 3DS, as well as mangas and anime: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Sonico At the end of the day Frontwing is a japanese company that makes games for *gasp* a Japanese audience and guess what? Japan eats up this kind of stuff. Quote
Nier Posted October 31, 2016 Author Posted October 31, 2016 12 minutes ago, Zenophilious said: That's funny, because I heard that the Xbox 360 sold pretty poorly in Japan. Xbox 360 had alot of exclusives titles that were developed for the Xbox 360 and either remained exclusive to the Xbox 360 or where only ported on PS3 after a few years, many sucessful titles such as THE iDOLM@STER, Dream C Club, Steins;Gate and such actually started on Xbox 360, alot of VN console ports were first released on Xbox 360. In terms of "Xbox" it sold alot (1.5 million as of 2011). Compare that to the other Xbox sales in Japan, such as the Xbox One which unlike the Xbox 360 has almost 0 incentives (to the japanese) going for it. Basically if it wasn't for these exclusives the Xbox 360 would have sold about as much as the Xbox One is selling now and compared to that the Xbox 360 did indeed "sell so much more". Quote
XReaper Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 39 minutes ago, Decay said: Are you saying Frontwing shouldn't attempt to have a diverse catalog? this. like in whatever post/topic/statement about bringing over whichever title coming from frontwing themselves people only keep on asking stuff related to grisaia or its derivates. gives me the freaking creeps. as if they arent allowed anymore to try out something different after grasaia´s commercial success...& yo, then fellows start wondering why phantom trigger has been decided on... Quote
littleshogun Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 Interesting I guess. While the idol was nice enough if we speak about commercial there, I think that Frontwing should also released the prequel there if they want to localized Time Leap completely there. Besides, I think the prequel could entering the Steam easily because it was had been ported to the console. PS - I'm still waiting Frontwing to fulfill their promise in regard of Island here, too. As for Himawari, it was already back to Mangagamer and they was trimming whatever bug it was left, so hopefully it'll be in near future if we talk about the release. Quote
SpeedBeatz Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 Okay so there seems to have been a breakdown of communication at some point, because this was not supposed to be announced yet. It's not Time Leap Paradise the VN, it's a different thing, and I'm assuming we'll make a detailed announcement in the next few hours since we kind of have to, so I guess "more details soon!" until I can get confirmation on how to handle this. XReaper and Yuuko 2 Quote
Nandemonai Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 4 hours ago, Mr Poltroon said: Well, yes. Generally, their business is to sell VNs. If they get a big seller, it's only natural to "try out other things hoping to make the same impact". It's not like I particularly believe they think this'll be highly impactful, but if they don't try then... what do they do? "Oh, we got a big hit. Time to pack up and go out of business." 100% agree. People complain when companies release the same game over and over again. Then when the company tries something different, they complain it isn't as polished as the game that the company's made 4 times before already. Or they complain it's too weird, or not enough like the game that awhile ago they were complaining had been rehashed to death. If companies never take chances, then the market dies from stagnation slowly. That's not good for anybody. XReaper 1 Quote
SpeedBeatz Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 It was actually more on our side, not really Sekai's fault. It's not exactly inaccurate info, just poor timing since we haven't announced any details about the game yet. We'll have a full announcement later tonight (Japan time), when more people in the west are likely to be awake! Quote
VLOCKUP Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 So neither Time Leap or Time Leap Paradise will be released? I wonder what will we get for Super Live. That being said, all the talk about Idolmaster and stuff makes me want to try one game at least once. Unfortunately it will never release outside of Japan at all because "gross idol shite". At least let me indulge in Japanese culture a bit more. This is way more tolerable than other Japanese hobbies floating around there. Quote
VLOCKUP Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 25 minutes ago, OutoftheBox said: There's an english release of the mobile Love Live rhythm game. That's a nice information to know, even though I can't play mobile games due to obselete phone I own. Well, there is Hatsune Miku but I'm not really into her and fellow vocaloid's synth voice much. Quote
VLOCKUP Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 44 minutes ago, OutoftheBox said: You don't really need a top of the line phone. It's mostly ADV sections and tapping on buttons. Let me reveal one spec about my phone. The OS is Android 2.1. Quote
EastCoastDrifter Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 4 hours ago, VLOCKUP said: So neither Time Leap or Time Leap Paradise will be released? I wonder what will we get for Super Live. That being said, all the talk about Idolmaster and stuff makes me want to try one game at least once. Unfortunately it will never release outside of Japan at all because "gross idol shite". At least let me indulge in Japanese culture a bit more. This is way more tolerable than other Japanese hobbies floating around there. Just to correct you on this, an anime idol game did get released outside of Japan and it's based on Neptunia. It's called Hyperdimension Neptunia: Producing Perfection. Granted, it never really sold well in the west for obvious reasons. Quote
Kurisu-Chan Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 > Expected Time travel show with serious elements. ....I should stop believing in japan. Quote
VLOCKUP Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 2 hours ago, KonpekiUmi said: Just to correct you on this, an anime idol game did get released outside of Japan and it's based on Neptunia. It's called Hyperdimension Neptunia: Producing Perfection. Granted, it never really sold well in the west for obvious reasons. Are you comparing an obviously budget title on Vita to a monster like Idolmaster? Not only that, it is not even good and definitely the weakest of Neptunia games(yes, even weaker than the original PS3 game) and it even lied to me(Fuck you Harem Route Neptunia PP and fuck you for not being able to get 4 Goddesses dancing in one stage). Quote
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