Visual Novel Lexicon

[Flutterz]

You might want to add Aniki and Anego

[Guest]

You might want to add Aniki and Anego

[Aniki]

 

You might want to add Aniki and Anego

 

Oh yeah, we forgot those. Will add.

 

Dammit, Franzose. How could you possibly forget Aniki?

[Down]

I can't see the final version, it seems like it requires permissions.

 

Most prominent thing I've noticed in the right-before-that version is that 3 out the 4 examples you gave under seinen are actually shônen

To add to Berserk I'd suggest Monster, Akira and Oyasumi Punpun, for example.

Overall seinen is incredibly broad, so it's rather hard to give a real description other than "adult manga". You can't really say it's more dark or anything, there's always loads of counter-examples. Plus the seinen classification is the most blur.

 

Also, we've already talked about how manga demographics (shoujo/shonen/etc) don't apply to anime. If you want to give some definitions on anime, it might be interesting to distinguish late-night anime, kids anime, OVA, and maybe some other stuff.

 

Other than that, either I don't know enough or I don't see anything missing that wouldn't be nitpicking.

 

 

And as I said, I still have no idea how we could give more spotlight to that thing.

[Guest]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yfMIKXtfCFnZgcgRN_-34B8CdSTRE2FwDrvT4gCPP-s/edit?usp=sharing

 

And maybe besides Claymore, the other mangas are Seinens.

 

I got rid of the anime demographic part ...

 

OVA can be added, however late-night anime and kids anime are kinda self explanatory.

 

As for the spotlight, no idea either.

Maybe you copy the whole thing in a pinned thread somewhere and tag it carefully.

Or you leave it here but change the tags and add the final version in the OP for more visibility.

 

In any case it's not a requested project anymore. It's more or less done

Edited June 29, 2014 by Guest

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And maybe besides Claymore, the other mangas are Seinens.

Death Note was published in the Shônen Jump and GTO in the Weekly Shônen Magazine. There's about nothing more shônen than those two magazines.

[Guest]

Perhaps. Changed

[Down]

 

As for the spotlight, no idea either.

Maybe you copy the whole thing in a pinned thread somewhere and tag it carefully.

Or you leave it here but change the tags and add the final version in the OP for more visibility.

 

In any case it's not a requested project anymore. It's more or less done

Well, I'll put a link to this thread in the introduction thread, it should get some visibility there. I put the final version in the OP, too.

If projects like the VN introduction kit ever come to be, it'll come handy.

 

Good job to everyone who worked on that, then!

[Guest]

If projects like the VN introduction kit ever come to be, it'll come handy.

*lol* RIP lexicon

[Flutterz]

*lol* RIP lexicon

Don't worry, someone somewhere will at some point appreciate the work you've done.

[Guest]

Don't worry, someone somewhere will at some point appreciate the work you've done.

 

Maybe.

It doesn't really matter as long as it can help some people and/or prevent some useless/repetitive threads.

[Nayleen]

This should replace certain controversial FAQ items on the main site.

 

*2c*

[Zakamutt]

Could have both~

 

I mean, at least having an answer is interesting, though I'm sure a decent amount of people see it as wrong *shrug*

 

That said, this certainly fits "faq" more-ish, though there would have to be some introduction stuff added prol.

[Tay]

This is really, really awesome.

[Steve]

Btw, I am not sure if this is just a trend in the past few years but some companies make Fandisk in the place of a sequel so the statement under Fandisk is not always true for what japanese call Fandisk

 

We can not really define them as sequels even though many contain what is called after stories which tell you what happened after the endings of the individual routes in the original games.

 

 

That seemed to me what Fandisks were as well, but there are instances where FDs are as long if not longer than the original game, making it full length sequel, but since VNs don't really get sequels, they call it fandisk.

 

For example Irotoridori no Sekai has a fandisk that is about 80% length of the original game, and sure it has some of the "after stories" but most of it is actually new original stories or full sequel stuff (well sequel is technically after the original story so "afterstory" xD but I guess you mean after story as like finishing moments that were missing in the original). Hell it even has its own unlockable true route xD

 

Another example would be Monobeno, where the so called "fandisk" is almost twice as long as the original game xD.

 

 

 

So I think you could say that in some cases fansiks are like closing words and H scenes, but in other cases fandisks are just full length sequels.

[Guest]

Then we could change the definition like this :

 

"A fandisk is an addition to an already existing game made by a different organisation than the original producer."

[Steve]

That would not be true, fandisk is made by the same company.

[Guest]

"A fandisk is a content addition to an already existing game by the original producer"

 

You were right, how about now ?

[Steve]

I would say something like this:

 

"A Fandisk (or Fandisc - JP companies can't decide how to romanize it) is as the name implies a game that tries to satisfy the needs of the fans of a particular game or developer, with more of the same stuff they liked in the originals, either closing words to a story, after-story (usually with stuff like a wedding), side character routes, additional H-scenes, game crossovers, or completely new stories and events with the same characters the fans got to love in the original game. The length can range from few hours to sometimes even double the length of the original game and as such in those cases can be considered a full sequel

The benefit is that it allows the company to recycle some of the assets from the original game, such as background music tracks, background images and sprites while only needing to create some new music, new openings and endings, new CGs and events and new scenarios and stories."

[Guest]

Lexicon not encyclopedia ;p

 

"A fandisk is a content addition to an already existing game by the original producers. It is a fan service product and sticks to the context of the original Visual Novel. Most of the time they are sequels or backstories with new CG's, a new OP and ED theme".

[Steve]

what about

"A fandisk (fandisc) is a content addition to an already existing title or titles allowing fans to enjoy more of what they liked in the original games. It allows companies to make anything from additional H-scenes and new short stories to full length sequels or multiple game crossovers by re-using some of the existing assets."

[Tay]

I dug out some notes I wrote a few years ago and found this description of a fandisk. Maybe it'll be helpful?

 

"Fandisc: Fandiscs are additional content tethered to a main product, and can take many different forms. Fandiscs can be as expansive as sequels, or tight experiences (like DLC) meant to give you 'just a little more time' in the game world/with the game characters. The actual content varies wildly by game, and so resources like IMDB are useful to grasp what is contained in a particular fandisc."

[Guest]

You know that both of you posting two different definitions at the same time makes it extra hard to chose right ? ^^

 

Okay I'll try to make a compromise and hopefully it won't look strange.

 

"A fandisk (fandisc) is a fan service content addition to an already existing title. They can be expansive sequels or short stories meant to give the player new in-game experiences. These include new CG's, OP and ED themes."

 

I don't know if I should add the CG/H scene/ED/op part. It's pretty obvious that in added content these will be new too.

[Nayleen]

It's your typical expansion pack, whose meaning has changed a lot over time and got to the point where we have two different kinds nowadays: Expansion Packs and DLC, even though the first can also be the latter by means of digital distribution. They're related to an original game and add however little or much content as the creators produce. But I think that (e.g. Maef's) definition fits the bill pretty well.

[Steve]

Hm yeah, that is actually pretty genius to shorten it like that

 

"Fandisk (or Fandisc or FD) is an expansion pack"