What makes Evangelion so great?

[Kosakyun]

Everything.  The last two episodes were so bad.  It was so good until then.  So good.....

 

I guess some people really like messing up in the very end of it all.

[Stray Cat]

I guess some people really like messing up in the very end of it all.

[LinovaA]

*walks in*

I liked the last two episodes of Evangelion

*walks out*

...

*peeks head in one more time*

Oh, and hating on Shinji is way too mainstream.

 

 

I swear, sometimes I feel like the only person who doesn't despise Shinji.

[Kosakyun]

I don't hate Shinji, and I liked the last two episodes.

I still think it was a big waste though.

[Stray Cat]

I like Shinji, but I hate the last two episodes. 

[Nosebleed]

I don't like Shinji and I don't like Evangelion

[Igneus_Iudex]

I think that the plot or the end of evangelion aren't that good, but I loved the way that characters are displayed. Their behaviours are quite unfair or silly, but I find fascinating that they have always psychological reasons (chilhood trauma, feeling rejected...).

 

For example, I hated Asuka, but it was after a while when I realised that her personality is interesting, because it is the result of a devastating childhood and an inferiority complex and, in my opinion, that's the reason because she wants always to be the best and to seek the recognition of people.

 

Having said that, I believe that there are a lot of anime better than evangelion.

[Dark Ariel7]

Now some people have mentioned that evangelion established some things and brought in new concepts to anime but what exactly did it do? The only things I got so far where the original tsundere and maybe cloning. What did Genesis do that was so new or out there?

[GLM4475]

Yeah, that's it. Most of the responses here are such.

I guess you can sum them up yourself.

[Down]

I'm trying to write up a post about that, but yeah, Eva's influence on anime is (much) more than that.

[Nosebleed]

I'm trying to write up a post about that, but yeah, Eva's influence on anime is (much) more than that.

I still don't get why being an influence automatically would make it good.

I've played influential games before but i've found other precedent game to be better, just like how i've seen influential anime but still find other things better and from all the extensive criticism i've read about Evangelion i have to say the whole show comes of as pretentious more than it comes off as deep and meaningful.

I'm not denying its influence, but i don't like thinking that influence automatically makes it amazing.

[GLM4475]

Hmm, I guess its called "the power of rumors". No matter it being a good or a bad one, its power just spread like wildfire and greatly influence many people. It's one of marketing strategy of a local candy brand I know. Despite its advertise is absurd and mocking the candy brand itself, it's arbsurdness and ridicoulousness make it a best selling brand.

[Stray Cat]

I still don't get why being an influence automatically would make it good.

I've played influential games before but i've found other precedent game to be better, just like how i've seen influential anime but still find other things better and from all the extensive criticism i've read about Evangelion i have to say the whole show comes of as pretentious more than it comes off as deep and meaningful.

I'm not denying its influence, but i don't like thinking that influence automatically makes it amazing.

 

I would say that Evangelion is one of the best anime (top 10) I've ever seen aside from those last two episodes. 

 

It was never dull (aside from the couple waiting scenes), the animation was good for it's time, the music is really, really good, the themes and concepts are interesting, and the characters, although not the most likable, are really well written. 

 

I love the first 24 episodes of Eva, just like I love the rebuild movies.  It's just that ending was not an O.K. thing to do.  

[Down]

 

I still don't get why being an influence automatically would make it good.

That's not what I was arguing for. I think Evangelion is both but not necessarily for the same reasons.

 

There are definitely influential series that are not incredible. The two other "Impact of Animation" series, Yamato and Gundam, are not outstanding, especially by today's standards.

[Tyrael]

 

this is the best thing about EVA

 

(and they stole it from James Bond lol)

[Funyarinpa]

ZAAANKOKU NO TENSHI NO YOUNI

 

SHOUNEN NA SHINWA NI NARE

 

*vintage porn jingle plays*

[Heizei_koukousei]

This scene

Hideaki Anno's house burns down before production of NGE

 

When your state of mind is so convoluted that you project it into an anime

Masterpiece

[Narcosis]

I'd say it's the epileptic tree orchard, but whatever. Some people simply like giant robots and EVA's are iconic.

[Mugi]

Only thing that really bothered me was that Shinji is such a pussy, he's like Kaneki x2. That and the animation quality drops quite a bit towards the end.

[Deep Blue]

Well he is a pussy but without him being that way the anime it wouldn't make any sense the plot makes sense because of him acting the way he does or it would be plain boring.

Same thing with takeru in muv luv, except that shinji is a pussy all the way to the very end xD

[miria]

bigest  anime trash in history of  mecha anime!!!!!!!!

[Down]

I seriously don't get the 'shinji is a pussy' """argument""". I must have missed the rule that says all protagonists must be manly and iron-willed.

For a 14 year old kid with parental issues and severe social anxiety, going through all the shit that happens to him in the series, I'd say he's faring pretty damn well.

 

My troll theory is that since one of the messages of Evangelion is to "tell otakus to open up to the world" (to simplify), people hate Shinji because they see themselves in him

[Darklord Rooke]

people hate Shinji because they see themselves in him

 

*Hurls shoe at Down*

[Down]

*Hurls shoe at Down*

[Stray Cat]

I'm with Down.  I don't particularly like Shinji but he's well written and fits into the story well so I have no complaints.