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If he releases the scripts and they're actually all translated minus Miu's route, I swear I'll temporarily drop my project and translate it just so we can put an end to this meme. Though if this happens I'm sure there'll be many people doing the same thing, in which case fuck that.

I think you're right about that and I take my statement back since it's simply to general. I've read lots of books in my younger years with action scenes too (god that makes me sound old), like BattleTech, Shadowrun, etc. So it works if they really take a narrative writing style to describes a scene. For example: "He carefully hid behind a small hill following the movements of his enemy. Then after a short moment of hesitation he made his decision and shot his heavy laser targeting the right leg with weaker armor of his opponent." Unfortunately, what I often see in VN's instead is some kind of comic book approach. The 'narration' in those cases then looks more like "Diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeee!!!" followed by five minutes of cling and clang sounds and the screen flashing in every color the rainbow has to offer. Then it contnues with a "Muhahahahah... now you get that back!!!" followed by another ten minutes of disco flashing supported by a chain of very, VERY simple words that almost makes you want to cry. In short, they try to let flashy screens do the job instead of the narration, and for that an anime or a straight comic would simply be better. Those at least show a bit more than the same screen over and over again, just with a different color. So the key question would be if the action scenes in Tokyo Babel will also consist of endless repeated 'Shonen Power' scenes or if they are more descriptive and with unique images instead of flashing screen x 1000.

For those of you who didn’t already know, this VN is based in the same setting as Nanairo Reincarnation and by the same company. Nanairo Reincarnation was my VN of the Year 2014, and it is a VN that has remained strong in memory ever since. This VN has a much stronger ‘horror’ influence than Nanairo, which tended to be more of a nakige for much of its length. The protagonist, Yashiro, is a young guy who was born particularly vulnerable to spiritual influences while not having the ability to see ghosts or spirits… meaning he is basically a walking target for stuff like that. At the beginning of the story, he finds out he is cursed by the ‘Ghost of the Old School Building’, one of the ‘seven mysteries’ of his school. This curse is fairly simple… it tries to get him to kill himself by jumping off the roof of the school building. A lot of the common parts of this VN focus around dealing with the mysteries and trying to discover a way to put the ghosts to rest, and in that sense it is almost identical to Nanairo… except that the protagonist, while central to the story, is essentially a ‘normal guy’ who got caught up in the mess involving ghosts and spirits. The protagonist from Nanairo makes several appearances in the VN, as do his ‘family’ members, and it is based about two years after the original story. There is definitely enough influence from the original that I have to recommend you play Nanairo first. This VN… tends toward an aura of sorrow, for much of its length. The moments of fear are there, but they tend to be less common than ones of sorrow/grief. There are a total of six heroines in the VN (five if you count Riri and Ruka as a single heroine), with three major arcs… The first arc is the Velvet Arc, which has the twin kami (Riri and Ruka) path splitting off midway. Riri and Ruka’s ending… leaves a really strong impression, to say the least. Technically, they are sub-heroines, but their ending is in no way neglected, either for detail or emotional value. If there is a significant difference from the main part of the arc (Velvet’s path), it is that it is somewhat shorter and less dramatic. Still, I cried for a half hour after it was over. Those who liked the red-head from Hikoukigumo no Mukougawa’s ending will like this one. Velvet’s ending… is closer to what I would call a ‘bittersweet romance’ path. Velvet has serious psychological problems, all wrapped up in her past (I won’t spoil it), and dealing with those issues is the main focus of her path. The second arc is the Older Women Arc, which contains Misato’s and Youko’s path. I’ll be straight… play Youko’s path first. If you play Misato’s path before Youko’s, it will destroy you utterly, whereas it is merely saddening when you play Youko’s first. Honestly, since I like that type of ending, I really did like how Youko’s path turned out, but it isn’t really a romance path (neither was Ruka’s and Riri’s). Misato and Youko’s paths branch off from one another dramatically very late on (from a story perspective), and Misato’s path follows a far less dramatic and painful road to the end, one that is closer to what romance fans would like. The third and last arc is the True Arc. This path contains Kana’s and the True ending. Kana’s path… is probably the most normal of all the paths, at least until the endgame. To be honest, Kana’s path is the reason why I won’t be calling this one a kamige, though it isn’t horrible. It is just… difficult to empathize with Kana (by the time I got to her path, I just considered her Idiot Friend #2, so I couldn’t see her as a romantic partner, even through the protagonist’s eyes). Nonetheless, as paths go in a general sense, it was still pretty high quality. However, where this arc shines is, of course, the True path. The True ending is… really heart-breaking. What you might or might not have figured out from the clues about the mysteries behind what is going on at the school are brought to light in full form, and the issues that were generally laid to rest outside of the protagonist’s control or in a way that didn’t reveal the whole mystery were brought to a head in the protagonist’s personal viewpoint. I cried for the True path. I seriously cried. If you don’t cry after you see what there is to see in this path, you probably should go to a psychologist. A few other comments before I go to my overall wrap-up. My favorite heroine in this VN was undeniably Velvet, both because of my tastes in heroines (you’ll know what I’m talking about when you know her secrets), and because I just really, really liked her ending. The protagonist’s degree of personal growth – and even his personality or outlook on life – will often be changed dramatically during the course of the paths, and this is one of the reasons I would love to give the kamige stamp to this one, despite the fact that it doesn’t quite reach Nanairo’s level. Overall, this is definitely one of those VNs I’ll still be recommending to people five years from now, along with Nanairo. It is a bit guro at times (at about the same level as Nanairo there), and the protagonist is a bit too typical of protagonists in the kind of situation he ends up in at times. However, as long as you can get past these issues (or actively enjoy them) this is a great VN to play. I will say that I really wished they would have done another adult protagonist, like Makoto from Nanairo. I don’t really see the need to go back to student protagonists, but I guess that is just an inevitability when companies are under the kind of pressure of tradition these are. I am seriously looking forward to more works from this company and this writer in the future, and this one is a solid (almost inevitable) VN of the Month candidate.

Thats not funny anymore and seriously fuck these guys.

It may be worth defining some important terms for the sake of clarity. Definitions used are my own, borrowing heavily from the idea that there exists different types of love. Affection: a feeling of gentle, tender regard towards another human being. Not necessarily sexual or romantic in nature. Also known in some circles as "platonic love". Romance: the mood created when something happens that deepens bonds between two human beings. There is a direct implication that the behaviour would lead to the two becoming lovers. Sexual Love, aka eroticism: broadly speaking, sexual feelings towards another human being: i.e., the I-want-you-in-bed-with-me kind. The kind of love that "nukige" try to inspire in its players. Needless to say, while there may be distinctions between these different forms of love in theory, people who experience them very often get them confused together. I think trying to make these distinctions, if indeed they do exist, is what makes OP's question so fascinating for me. Wikipedia describes visual novels as games that "focus on the appeal of the female main characters": and I think this statement is strikingly accurate. I think VNs are specifically engineered to inspire feelings for their characters. And I think its worth asking: how much of this actually comes from "romantic love"? Affection is definitely a large part of it - but that would be an expected reaction towards anything that manages to get you so emotionally invested. You can't spend time with someone and then end up NOT feeling something for him/her. Of course, those feelings might be purely platonic, but you will inevitably have memories of the time in that person's presence, and these memories will inevitably hold emotions. I think this is true not just in the case of finishing a VN or game (especially the long ones), but also in real life. My personal view is that romantic love in VNs can in many instances be superfluous, and if emphasized too much, a detractor to the original story. The most prominent example is the VN that tries to force in a route with every_single_female_character, regardless of whether or not it is warranted or not. My second bugbear is when the possibility of romantic development for any other character outside of the MC is neglected: which to me just feels a little unrealistic - not to mention ridiculously unfair. One of my favourite examples of both of these is Clannad (poor Sunohara!). On the other hand, the Angel Beats anime was remarkable for subverting both these tropes; though of course in the VN remake they were trying to to return to them all over again... I'm not even sure why this is such an annoyance for me. It's more likely just a simple question of taste, though a part of me feels that a VN that completely ignores the sexual elements to deliver a tale of two comrades-in-arms has the potential to deliver a much more profound message, that goes beyond the idea that VNs are datesims and nothing more! Unfortunately, I still have't found that VN yet... As an interesting but relevant aside, it would be worth examining where exactly Moe sits on the spectrum of love.

(Also available on steam)

That's a pretty shitty thing to do even if you hate the guy.

Welcome to these forums. I hope to see you around. Beware of us spammers. You don't want to catch our disease.

Welcome to Fuwa Cris, have a great time in here and hope to see you around Also beware of @Dergonu, senpai is a corrupted yuri perv and half a tsundere

Okay, I think the problem is the people who worry about action scene was definitely didn't play the demo. Because the demo should give you how Tokyo Babel will be. So, in order to allow all people see the fighting scene, how about the sample of fighting scene from propeller official channel. This is the first fighting scene and if you download the demo you'd definitely know which part (Actually propeller also had fighting scene video, but it contained some spoiler so I couldn't post it here). Well, if after seeing the fighting scene and the people still scare to play this game, too bad. And I apologize if my thought about conjueror review scare some people here to play this VN.

Everyone should read this visual novel, congrats on releasing it

Definately not a dealbreaker - a good story can stand on it's own, regardless. But I'll admit I have an affinlty that favors romance in alot of things I watch/read. Probably a subconcious effect of choosing a single life - I probably draw my source of "the feels" through other mediums (Not crazy or anything, I don't pretend I'm the mc or anything that weird). I'm content to just see a story's characters grow close and work through whatever trials are thrown at them. But definately not a dealbreaker - I mostly enjoyed Ayakashibito's writing style, so I'm looking forward to what TB holds. EDIT: my thoughts on what is/is not a better medium for action/etc: I grew up in a time that relied HEAVILY on books - sword fights, gunfire, martial arts - all of it had to stem from a writers ability, and my own imagination - so to say it should be through a animated medium to be well-expressed just seems silly. god i feel old

There's a whole world of brilliant written fiction across a ton of genres. I very much dispute that visual mediums are inherently better for the vast majority of genres.

While I don't buy into most of the core concepts that this article relies upon (and seems to assume are true without providing support), I can certainly relate to this feeling it describes as 'elevation'. Any anime with parents who trust or treat their children gently tends to make my heart metaphorically smile, be the reason Freudian or not. Sawako's parents in Kimi ni Todoke and Nagisa's parents in Clannad had that effect on me. A bit more than a year ago my sister had a child and had I not been inspired by characters like the ones I mentioned, I don't think I would've been able to build the resolve to be the uncle I want to be. Hopefully I can be an emotional support when things are dark and cheer on when everything is well.

I'm surprised the inclusion or exclusion of romance is such an important factor for people.

Hair long acne strong... Happy Nay? Here is a picture containing 3 of me Msg to fuwa: This is like the best thread some of you sexy people should post on it I swear I have friends...

One Mr. Insemination, Lord of Escalator Subs or something of that nature, exhibited great progress in his undertaking of this translation (which some sources that I cannot name say went from Chinese to English), and in a spree of unlimited magnanimity, even went so far as to bestow upon us the partial patch of which you spoke. Thereafter he endeavored to translate some other routes, and, as it would appear, completed all but that of one Mr. Miu. Presumably, Mr. Insemination then came to the prompt realization that Mr. Miu does, in fact, hold fascist inclinations, and thus decided that it would act against the interest of his people to disseminate this particular aspect of the production. However, the other routes remained complete according to the progress page, and after a period of prolonged unrest, he announced that these would be made available to the public on one Mr. April 1st of 2016, in the year of our one Mr. Lord Jesus. Thus, it would seem that you have only a few days to wait to see whether the truth of his proclamation shall manifest itself.

Hello guys, I have great news... The visual novel One Thousand Lies is OUT!! You can download for free from Itch.io: https://keinart.itch.io/one-thousand-lies There's also the official website: http://onethousandlies.weebly.com Of course, is totally free. I hope you guys enjoy reading One Thousand Lies.

Grand news, denizens of wherever. The much respected Tokyo Babel, a novel released by renowned developers, ‘Propeller’, localised by esteemed translators, Conjueror and Gare, and to be distributed by beloved MG, can now be trialled by you, the adoring[1] public, through a free demo. Gaze in astonishment, play the trial, and pre-order (it doesn’t have to be in that order.) http://blog.mangagamer.org/2016/03/18/tokyo-babel-demo-now-available-for-download/ [1]‘Adoring’ as in ‘you’d all better be adoring cause I know voodoo and will poke every single last one of you if you aren’t’ ahahahaha ... EDIT: Was this post pushy? I don’t think it’s pushy, but some folk are saying ‘it’s too much’. 'Too much' what? Words? Enthusiasm? I dunno. They weren’t exactly very clear, so it’s not my fault if I don’t understand what they’re saying. EDIT2: And now they're groaning in what I imagine is supposed to be frustration, but what in reality sounds like a Wookie in heat. That's even more incomprehensible, and doesn't exactly clarify matters. EDIT3: Ouch!

I wonder if you'll still be able to after this

Not really directly on the topic, but these tutorials were quite nice (all nsfw obviously) http://exhentai.org/s/658359a53c/777151-30 http://exhentai.org/s/2cf5ea663f/777151-42' http://exhentai.org/s/70cb16a0fd/777151-53

welcome to the forum, nice to meet you!

Oh god, let me help you glue that ass back on welcome! what kind of videos?

Welcome and nice to meet you too. Hope you could enjoy your stay here. Of course in here we'll accepted any contribution from the member. PS - Looks like I'll getting use to said cliche word to newcomer here lol.

I actually liked K-On season 2 better than season 1, but solely because of the ending - I can't express well just how much I loved that season 2 ending. It's been long enough that I don't recall how the contents of each season compared, but I expect I'd agree with you that the first season was otherwise stronger than the second. I actually recommend not watching the movie - it took a lot of the punch out of the ending, for me.

Welcome to the forums! Hope you enjoy your stay! Good luck with your "experiment" Have a moe:

Oooo, downloaded~ Congrats on finishing the project

Alright, I'll bite. I just got done with Luka's ending and I can sadly say that my opinion of it haven't improved much since the first time I read it. Salty rant coming up, also massive spoilers for pretty much every ending. Seriously, don't read this if you haven't finished with S;G. It's too good for just butthurt-joe here to ruin it for you. Alright now that I got all of that off my chest I can continue with the otherwise very enjoyable story. I wonder if any of you are going to fight me over this. That is if anyone can actually read my half-scribbled mockery of the english language

Well I am pretty hyped about the title. It was the final push to create an account here. (Hi! btw.) Since I plan to play it on release, I didn't even bother with the demo. Even with the reduced romances I think it's going to be an interesting and unique read.

For what I've read thus far this VN seems to be really good I especially love the art Hope it gets more coverage

Welcome to the community, feel free to ask any questions you may have.

Yo, welcome to the forum, nice to meet you.

Finished watching K-On 1st and 2nd series. The first one was excellent. The second series really lost all the magic the first one had and was only okay. It felt like they cashed in on the popularity of the first series and got funding for a double season second series but only had enough material for a single season. The ending was still very satisfying. Strangely most people rated the second season as equally high as the first, but I guess they were all converts by then and desperate for more K-On moe. Guess I better watch the movie through just for completion though I suspect it's more of the same. Next up, all the spring season shows, but I'm only listing the old shows I'm watching here otherwise I'd capitalise the entire thread since I'm always watching 30-40 shows concurrently...

That is a very sad existence indeed

Angel Beats , i guess .

it definetely has to be Gurren Lagann. EVERYtime i hear one of gurren lagann i just feel like doing better, making an effort, go beyond the limits. Break through MAKE A HOLE IN THE HEAVENS WITH MY DRILL. Inspire other ppl to give their best too. You know, I just feel like i still got a lot to do and that I have to give it my all, because at the end it all will be worth it. I can't hear sorairo days without feeling "elevation"

Your opening post has warmed my heart. Good thing I went by to take care of some business. Anyway, I'd interact with you more, but I'm kinda going home at 1AM in the morning and waking up at 5AM to prepare to go to class. Yes, it's mostly a four hour sleep schedule on average. Again, it's because theater has started once again and it's screwing up my whole schedule. I go home everyday with the fear that I might get mugged, but I don't get mugged. Probably because I'm usually bigger than them. So yeah. Pretty much. Life got me again. I'll be a cool kid and finally finish the second Ace Attorney for you after my theater activities. Then I'll observe you as you state all the good things about Ace Attorney in a biased way. Also, you wake up at a time where I'm in the middle of college. Regarding your comments about most of it applying to Shiko, goddamnit man. I have not pegged myself to be a Shiko too. I will now reevaluate myself and think about how I should reinstate my status as a fag. Thank you for opening my eyes, Tiag. A late happy Easter to you. I do enjoy these threads.

Hmm... *looks OP over suspiciously*... Well, you like DEARDROPS music, so you can't be that bad. Welcome!

That doesn't add up, you got an order of magnitude wrong here. Most people read between 150 and 400 words per minute. 10 000 words should take you between 25 minutes and an hour. Even an unskilled reader wouldn't be much slower. To give a figure easy to picture, an average book in english would have around 400 words per pages (around 40 lines with an average of 10 words per lines). That of course varies a lot depending on font, language, format, etc but let's settle with 400, 10 000 words make a 25 page "book". The 40 000 words limit Rooke mentioned would make 100 pages, which sounds reasonable. A 10 hour long VN is more likely to be, for the "average" reader (which is only a statistical entity, the dispersion is large), the equivalent of a 150 000 words / 375 pages novel. Visual novels are REALLY long. Of course the comparison is not very good, because I'm using a lot of averages and assumptions, the method of delivering the text is different, etc...

Well I was pretty hyped for it until I read the post above yours. I never expected Tokyo Babel to be strong in the romance department but hearing that it's that weak, plus 50 % of CG is action... eh. If I really wanted some action outside of meh vidya games, I have a boat load of martial arts movies, anime, and then the occasional Majikoi. If Tokyo Babel is anything like Ayakashibito then I'm sure I would enjoy it quite a lot. Even then though I skimmed through, maybe even skipped, a number of action CG's in Ayakashibito.

I remember the not-insane guy from the documentary about The Pirate Bay talking about why he rather used AFK in place of IRL when denoting anything he did which was not in front of his computer. Recalling the exact quote proves difficult but it doesn't matter as my point isn't necessarily what he meant but how I perceived it. I seem to recall his reasoning being something along the lines of online and digital presence also, technically, being part of real life. It makes sense to me that reality is not exclusive but in fact the opposite; inclusive. Anything that can be at all I would consider part of reality and thus also, if I am involved in it, a part of my own real life. Which leads me to virtual reality. Not VR but the idea of virtuality. As far as I know, European philosophers back in the day (and maybe even now?) sometimes divided reality into the material reality (is actual, has form) and virtuality. Keep in mind that I'm using the term very liberally. Something virtual can be a thing, such as a character in a visual novel, which is not material but according to some people very much real since it obviously exists. If the character did not exist, there would be no way to see or interact with it, even through the UI of the game. There may be moral values connected to the importance of something virtual vs. something material but that is another discussion. However, I don't really buy the fact that distinctions between forms of realities are necessary nor representative of the way it works. This is why I'm just going to say that everything is real, real to the extent that we don't even need the word real as nothing can not be real. Truth be told, I am making a conscious effort not to get trapped in a spiral of semantics, arguing the duality of language, thoughts and symbols such as the word 'reality'. So, in conclusion to this paragraph, let me say that since I consider reality inclusive and non-specific, I also consider reality all-encompassing and so it includes anything that follows henceforth. Since smooth segue is smooth and If I haven't already lost everyone at this point, what I wanted to get to was this: animu and vidya are for realz! In fact, it makes me very satisfied that I can fool myself into believing the equal reality of MMORPG worlds enjoy compared to the one my shrink wants me to be functional in. Ever since I was a wee lad I have enjoyed escapism a lot. Like many of my generation I was at a point completely absorbed in the World of Warcraft, Azeroth. Because, while I love the worlds of my favourite movies, anime, fighting games, visual novels and so on, they are a bit lacking in the world department. With world I mean a traversable landscape which preferably differs enough from Earth to make it interesting. So, for me, what an MMORPG needs to be is a system which makes an as large of a virtual landscape as interesting and exciting as possible, ideally to the point that you start to forget that it is not indeed virtual. My interest in these kinds of games has dwindled significantly for the past several years. I feel they have become more about being virtual landscapes supporting a gameplay system than the other way around. Specifically I'm talking about convenience features which make the gameplay systems quicker and easier to understand. I didn't get into them for that, though. There are plenty of games I enjoy primarily for their gameplay features, such as Street Fighter and Starcraft, but none of them are MMORPGs. Recently I have regained hope, though. On March 11th this year, Visionary Realms streamed over an hour of gameplay from the pre-alpha version of their game Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen. I've been skeptical, thinking the game was most likely vapourware until I saw the stream but now, seeing how far along they've gotten, I think it will most likely see the light of day after all. Basically, the game is like any other game in the genre only stripped of what I consider bloat features. It will also be significantly slower paced and focus more on group efforts as opposed to solo play. There will be limited fast-travel, instancing and enemies which can be killed by a lone player. They are promising that there won't be exclamation marks over the heads of NPCs giving quests and combat as well as regeneration of health will take longer than in modern MMORPGs. The graphics aren't exactly state of the art but to me they look serviceable, although I'm fine with playing Dragon Quest (1986) on my Famicom so my standards aren't exactly sky high. Maybe this pitch sounds like a snorefest to you and I completely understand why someone might think so but I do hope that there are enough people interested in this kind of niche to let the game stay afloat. Perhaps you are like me and love to escape to a world of fantasy, be it in a visual novel or otherwise. Perhaps you are like me and happen to have 12-20 hours to kill in front of your computer before you sleep again. Just thought I'd put the word out there in my own construed and needy way. That's all, thanks.

Happy Easter everybody!

Yo! I finally got to say something positive about a VN for a change. Feels good, man. Link: http://reviews.fuwanovel.net/2016/03/23/kindred-spirits-on-the-roof-2/

Such obvious choices You should be ashamed of yourself *cough*

Hello! I'm Viridea, and I also use the name, Viridea Productions just to refer to every project I will work on in the future! I'm working on an original series called, Viridescent Dragon, and it's a kinetic visual novel that is divided into individual chapters. Download it on Gamejolt and itch.io: Gamejolt: http://gamejolt.com/games/viridescent-dragon-chapter-1/92223 itch.io: http://veedragon.itch.io/viridescent-dragon-chapter-1 indiedb: http://www.indiedb.com/games/viridescent-dragon-chapter-1 Hey guys! This is my first Kinetic Visual Novel, called Viridescent Dragon. It's about 50 minutes long if you autoplay the text. I originally had an earlier version of this game called "Charlit Chapter 1" But I updated that game and renamed it to Viridescent Dragon Chapter 1. Yes, this novel is gonna be in chapters as you can see. Here is some info about the game: After waking up in a forest, meet Charlotte, the smack-talking, amnesic dragon girl who travels with her friends on a quest to regain her memories... Who is she and where did she really come from? The journey won't be easy, as she will have to conquer many obstacles and find out the hidden truths about the world she travels through, the friends she makes, the reigning monarchs, and the deities that are worshiped... This is the first of many humorous and drama-filled chapters to come. Press the "A" key to Auto play the text. This game is in 1920 x 1080 resolution, in window mode and full screen mode. Sorry, Windows only. Unless you can find a way to play .exe files on something else. Also, be careful, as the game can crash when you close it, as Novelty, the program I used to create this game, is still in its Beta stages. Be sure to save often, just in case. This is the main reason I consider this game, "unstable". Credits Original Story and Character Art by me, Kassidie Butler (Viridea) 2015 Music by Audionautix.com and AngelHeights (on deviantART) SFX by Freesound.org Backgrounds from Pixabay.org Backgrounds edited with FotoSketcher and Adobe Photoshop CC 2015 Thank you very much, and I hope you enjoy the game!