Mr Poltroon

Not game. Genre. That's the fundamental difference. Since you brought up Call of Duty I'll use that as an example. Imagine that a guy that only plays first person shooters goes and reviews a puzzle game. What do you think will happen? And the opposite holds true. The puzzle player probably won't like Call of Duty all that much either. Fundamentally, I think these guys would make for poor reviewers. A Professor Layton fan should review puzzle games while a Medal of Honour fan should review Call of Duty... that sort of thing. Bah, that one's in poor taste. (just jk i'm sorry, bats best taste of all) As if I'd go to the trouble of writing a review after getting this excited about it. All I'm gonna do is complain and stand back and watch like the wretched being I am.

But... But... All my ? Well, yeah, that's the obvious response, and what I mean when I said SolidBatman needs to get his arse in gear and write more reviews. Otherwise people reading our review won't quite know he has piss-poor taste a unique taste in VN's

Which is why I never said anything about him basing his review on popularity. I've asked for one of two things: -> Another review by someone that doesn't hate the game. -> That there be more reviews by Batman so people get to know the reviewers tastes and biases better. (I also said that he could try to make it more objective, but I think that's impossible) I completely disagree that you should withhold your opinion because of the popular opinion. Agreed, the reviewer does not need to like it, nor have I said he should. This review is his personal opinion, he has the right to have it, yada yada. I just don't think solidbatman is the appropriate fuwareviews person to review this (for obvious reasons ) when he fails to properly showcase both sides of the VN.

Pardon me, I had no such idea nor said any such thing. Not featuring a review because of popular opinion is ridiculous. Even I agree with that. Again, pardon me. I'd like to think I'm not being an immature whiny kid here. Our opinions are different because we value different things, that's absolutely correct. However, I can't exactly agree with the rest. I disagree your review does a good job of showcasing the positives and negatives of this VN. For starters, the score will immediately turn off anyone who doesn't use reviews properly, but that's their own fault and that sort of folk can go be eaten by penguins. Disregarding the score, the overall tone is a negative one, and the conclusion is that Little Busters! is a bad VN. One hardly feels like playing a "bad VN", truth be told. Because I'm really into this today, I'll go through the review again. I've left unbolded what feels more 'fact-like': -> Good Opening/Start -> Conveys information on the start and cast of the VN -> Good Opening/Start -> Conveys information on the start and cast of the VN ->Things become worse -> Funny and enjoyable activities and scenes over the course of the common route. -> However, they are constantly repeated and lose their fun. -> Extremely Long Common route -> 1 dimensional characters during common route. -> Monotonous common route -> Enjoyable Baseball minigame -> Monotonous, dull common route -> Main Character has common sense, attempts to keep friends grounded (plays the straight man) -> Comes across as whiny and annoying. -> He's a boring protagonist. -> Fits story theme but isn't enjoyable. -> Routes develop protagonist -> Routes are hit and miss -> Conflict feels forced, or is unimaginative. -> Two routes were creative, but only one of them was a good read and only because of how outlandish it was. -> Poor, generic writing. -> Tries to force "feels" but instead its cheesy, generic and nearly a parody. -> True Route -> Better Quality -> Develops Main Character -> Story grows intriguing. -> Rin does not develop her character much. -> Refrain is the true ending -> Highest quality -> Kyousuke has little screen time. -> Strong start -> Connects with the start of the VN and what we read previously. -> The ending is terrible because it got forced into being happy. -> Feels like I wasted my time. -> If the ending were different, tone of the review would be different. -> Ending falls back on a tired, poor trope that feels lazy. -> Very good music. -> Stylistic and quality differences. -> Flat characters. -> Inconsistent writing. Fluff filled. Long Winded. -> Forced and cheesy drama. -> Main story lacks a good resolution. -> Poorly constructed characters. After reading this review, I'd think anyone who decided to play it even through all that might have some problems with reading comprehension. I just don't think it does a good job at showing two sides of the coin. There's got to be some reason why so many people enjoyed it through all these flaws that don't seem to be exactly wrong, right? But there's nothing. According to this, VNDB's rating must be because they all liked the music or something. Even if I search for other reviews they definitely aren't four, or less than 6, for that matter.

Boo boo! Your opinion is poo poo! My main problem with your review is that it says it's a bad VN, which it might be for all I care, without mentioning that it can still manage to be an emotional experience you shouldn't miss. Sure, that might not have been the case for you, but I still disagree with the entire prospect of having you review this VN when you are clearly abnormal (in terms of opinion, ofc ). [No liberty! You have no right to review stuff you don't like!]*See below With two amendments I'd be absolutely fine with the review: 1st - It should be mentioned that the routes are very hit and miss (is mentioned already) and could be a very emotional and enjoyable experience even through the bad writing, although it wasn't for me. 2nd - Little Busters! opts for the typical cop out ending. If you're used to and don't mind the BS happy endings in VN's, then the ending should be good enough for you. *I'm saying this because this review of yours isn't "Batman's BS Review of Little Busters!" as much as you're trying to make it out to be, but is actually "Fuwanovel's Review of Little Busters!" in my eyes. There should be either another review of Little Busters! made posthaste, or you should amend your review to make it more objective, is what I think. Of course, the latter isn't actually possible because hardly anything is objective, which is why I think you need more reviews written quick so a reader can figure out your tastes usually, or otherwise clearly state your biases. I'm sure these are just trolls: But there might be some people that decide it ain't worth it when they see Fuwanovel's review of it, which is a damn shame. ...Am I getting my point across? Everyone's got a right to an opinion, I just don't like that the main one featured on Fuwanovel is in the miniscule minority. Edit:

Well, bollocks. I don't know anything about these "tone"'s and moods you speak of, so I can't really comment. Indubitably, Little Busters is a bad VN because the ending didn't seem to match the rest of Refrain in tone. Very interesting piece of information (read: bias) that would be interesting to have mentioned somewhere in the review.

You just haven't been on Fuwanovel long enough. Sorry.

I especially remember at how annoyed you were that it was moved here, the Coliseum of Chatter, where these people can talk at will without an iron fist of moderation You do? I see... Too many, you say? Indeed, indeed... Pardon me while I...

Gentlemen, I have no idea how this came to be, but prepare yourselves for copious amounts of :salt: :salt: I haven't quite let this loose in some amount of time. I hope my view isn't too far clouded. Please prove me wrong if such is the case. I still don't like it and will keep on pouting. You've done 4 reviews as far as I can tell. From this pool, I have bugger all idea what your tastes and biases are. You can't simply claim you aren't biased and that's why you gave it a low score. ...You didn't do that, though, you also provided a supporting review explaining all your points. Since this is a personal review, and is based on your tastes, I can't or shouldn't really complain. But that won't impede me! This is the same situation that happens in many VN's. Long common routes filled with comedy and daily shenanigans. Some people play VN's for this kind of crap. I do, and many others who enjoy Key comedy do, too. If this review shows us something, is that you dislike this sort of repetitive comedy and long common routes. A perfectly natural taste, but not one suited for reviewing a VN where a third of it is just that. You can't put a person who enjoys sci-fi with plot development, exposition or foreshadowing within every 15 minutes reviewing a slice of life comedy VN and expecting them to like it. (Note: I am referring to the common route thus far, the rest of the VN could do a complete turnabout, as it is romance and has a true route in different style, and change your view on it). Note: This is still the same common route as earlier. How it transmuted from a bunch of little activity arcs being repeated over and over in slightly different forms to this, is beyond me. Also, you use monotonous or a derivative twice during the same paragraph. Just to make sure it gets ingrained into our minds that this common route is devil incarnate... ...if you don't like that sort of thing, of course. It's perfectly natural to like a boring common route like this for some mind-boggling reason. Well... I wanted to complain at something but I can't, really. It's absolutely correct that Riki is meant to be boring and normal, and it's absolutely correct that not everyone will enjoy that. (Riki is one of my favourite protagonists, y u do dis to me?) I'll just say that I don't agree he comes across as whinny and annoying, especially when at certain points he looks like he's worshiped by all the Little Busters! members for recruiting them all. Now then, let's for an outlandish minute imagine I haven't played this VN before. What the actual hell is this supposed to mean? Conflict feels forced - Characters overreact to what is supposedly the main conflict? Very unimaginative - The route story is generic? And that's supposed to be bad? What do you think I play a romance for, anyways? Being generic makes it bad? You should reconsider some review scores for Sakura and Love at First Sight. And 'a good read' means what? Does it mean that the rest of the routes were bad reads? Does it mean you don't like reading? How does outlandish make a good read? You're obviously trying to avoid spoilers, so I can't really complain about this except by saying that there's no way you can justify your opinion without analyzing or describing the routes from your point of view. Maybe you're totally biased, but I can't tell because I don't even know what you're talking about. ...But since I've already played this VN before, I think I'm even more confused because none of the routes, to me, conform to what you're saying here and I have no idea what you're talking about. That aside, I can't possibly agree with this. This is the very staple of Key VN's. Give you a wonderful experience the first time you play because of emotions. Then you go back to it after finishing and realise 'What the hell? This is actually generic and full of plot holes.' It's ridiculously unfair to deny that first time experience because of objectivity. Which is why I hate scores, too. Maybe it is a bad VN, but you won't really notice that the first time you play. You'll love it, be high on emotion, rate it as an 11/10. Or, in some (rare) cases, you might not feel the emotional pull at the heartstrings. This connects to the earlier "The routes are very hit or miss.", to some people, mostly romance aficionados, the routes will be a wonderful experience precisely because of this cheesy, generic writing carefully crafted to force emotions out of you. (even if the routes themselves are of varying quality and outlandishness) If it didn't happen to you, my condolences. But this review will make people think that it doesn't work, which isn't true. Go check wherever you want, most people think Little Busters! is a wonderful VN. Especially the average player. https://vndb.org/v5/votes?c=all;o=a;s=vote Wait, I shouldn't go by popular opinion. That's cheating. Batman obviously has much better taste that most people. Better yet, everyone else has bad taste. That's much more likely. As an aside, I haven't seen groundhog day, sorry. Usually I'd start spouting insults and contradicting everything you say after quoting you. But credit where credit is due. I shall attempt to take the moral high-ground by agreeing you here like the gentleman I am. Note: Anything else I haven't quoted or contradicted is probably stuff I agree with. *cough*How can this not be personal opinion?*cough* Also, maths. Good route + bad end = bad route. You know what would make me feel pointless? A bittersweet or bad end after all that. *cough*How can this not be personal opinion?*cough* Thank god he was lazy or I might have hated Refrain! *cough*How can this not be personal opinion?*cough* Well, pardon me! I might have run out of constructive criticism (that's implying I ever had any). I just really, really don't see how this is not a case of not appealing to the reviewer's personal tastes. Just see more on this below. V Inconsistent is true and is probably bad. Fluff Filled is true but is not necessarily bad. I just have terrible taste and like fluff, for instance. Long Winded is true and can be bad. But since it's because of that fluff I hate so much, all is swell. The real problem here, is that it's quite a shame that the appeal of a comedy, slice of life common route is the long comedy and slice of life (school life, in this case) sections. I mean, what the hell? Why aren't there giant robots, magical girl fairies or an apocalypse anywhere in the common route? Or are you telling me that you can claim the fact that the common route was too long for your tastes is an objective fault with Little Busters! ? VN is too long, ergo, bad. If the common route were a third of its size would this be a good VN? The drama can be forced, generic and cheesy, but it will forever remain a fact that for many, this forced generic drama had people crying or pulled at their heartstrings for a wonderful experience. Down with objectivity! Obviously it was a bad choice to appeal to the widest audience, because the widest audience liked it while you were left thinking it was a bad VN. Some people like these cop outs with happy conclusions. They are objectively wrong and should be exterminated posthaste, those pesky pests. Now... What's this about poorly constructed characters? Your review mentions nothing of the sort. It says that they don't really develop much during the common route, which is true, but other than that this is the first time you complain about the characters. Plz xplain In the end, I'm left with a question. Should reviews be written by those who dislike the genre or various game aspects so people who dislike it too, can easily be made aware of games not to their taste? Or should they be reviewed by people who always like the genre and game aspects, so that if it truly is a bad game within the genre, there be no doubt about it? People who like a certain genre might have no issue playing lesser quality titles, so long as they are not, truly, a bad VN. If a mecha and scifi fan likes a Slice-of-Life romance, it might not be very good of a Slice-of-Life romance. Much the same way you can't actually expect a mecha and scifi fan to like a Slice-of-Life romance and review it the same way a Slice of Life romance fan would. For more fire setting and an extra dose of , let's go do a mock review of Ever 17, which I've played before and loved, taking Batman's review as a base. Explanations are too long and break the flow of narrative. I, the player, want to go ahead and proceed with the story, but I'm constantly interrupted with exposition and complicated terms. They aren't short, either. This makes the flow and story a mess. After you get into each of the four routes, you start being hit with various plot twists. However, this comes off as cheap and unenjoyable, because they come entirely from the left field (I am a stupid player, and I have no knowledge of foreshadowing). These routes fail to explain anything of what is going on, either. Usually skipping ahead and leaving us wanting and in an unfair mystery. This annoyed me thoroughly because after going through a route I am not compensated for my efforts. The final arc was very confusing. You constantly switched between the two protagonists, making this section much more confusing than the rest of the VN. This final section also solves all of the "mysteries" that went on over the course of the VN, and it is at this point that you are completely broadsided with ridiculous explanations and outrageous plot devices in order to explain away everything that went on. You are left feeling dissatisfied at how ridiculous the main plot points are and this ruins the long hours you put into this VN, making all your efforts feel pointless. The interactions between the characters are nothing special, and a lot of them act pointlessly mysterious, obviously trying to keep some sort of mystery from you only to be finally spoonfed during the true or character route. Even so, you're left hanging on a few details you might have questions about. Takeshi amounts to the generic nice protagonist with a bit of a foul mouth. He'll have constant run-ins with the Tsundere and You, and by the end he'll still be the generic protagonist everyone loves. Kid, on the other hand, comes across as a whiny, well, kid, as he gets frustrated over his lost memories. He'll rage for seemingly no reason and be cold for the characters unnecessarily (written by someone who's never had amnesia nor knows what it feels like). He constantly annoyed me because of this. Ever17 has flashes of being a good VN. It even shows glimpses of being a great one. The writing, however, has too many issues, like constant exposition and ridiculous solutions to what should have been a mystery to maintain any sort of interest. The conclusion that does take place is more often than not, forced, cheesy, and the main story lacks a decent resolution, electing to instead pull a nonsensical and outrageous conclusion in order to explain away everything that took place. Ever17 is not a good VN. It is, a bad VN with poor writing, poorly constructed characters, and tolerable art. The music is really the best aspect here. In short, everything amounts to the reviewer, and certain reviewers don't go with certain VN's. And here's a shining example of that :3 ...I'm talking about yours, not mine, BTW In conclusion, I <3 u Batman, but I'm a Little Busters! fanboy and I enjoy unhealthy doses of complaining. Try not to hold it against me? kthxbye.

-> Likes long common routes. -> Loves Key Comedy -> Doesn't care about writing -> Doesn't care about deep plots or plot convinience -> Likes Emotions -> Despises ends that aren't Happy. Could this VN be any more compatible with me?

If Little Busters is a 4/10, all the scores on my VNDB lose 5 points, meaning the highest score I've given is a 5 and I'm heartless to the point of giving 1's. Jesus Christ, I don't know anything about writing or plots or story, but if Little Busters! is bad what the hell is all the crap I've been playing and reading? Should I just conclude I've got no taste whatsoever and continue on my merry life? I'll leave all this judging and analyzing to those who care. I'm in for the enjoyment, not for good pieces of literature.

Well, yeah, but I might as well report on it with all the details. I had no idea they changed if you zoom in, for instance.

I thought that was utter nonsense but it turned out to be right. If I zoom in they become tildes.

This I'm aware of. I just don't often dream in these circumstances.

And I, of all people, made it through Corpse Party because...? I dunno. Hope triumphs in the end or something?

Not entirely sure I can confirm, since I don't have any data to compare it to.

*Lewy rejoices*

This is a Visual Novel site, presumably people interested in Visual Novels read these forums. Now, sanahthlig's content just so happens (coincidentally! I'm sure) to be Visual Novel related content, and it might interest a few folks. I have no issue with this modus operandi.