Sieg

Nice to have ya! P4 really is a great game, I wish I could get my hands on p4 arena but nevertheless, I really get the feel this game is rather similar to p4, maybe it's the art or the mystery... I dunno xD https://fuwanovel.net/novels/116. It's not fully translated yet so bear with us, I just thought I'd let you know =D

Yeah, I'd say about 50% of the fun was researching the historical and mithical figures and such to fill the servant classes. The players got them randomly and it was pretty amusing to see their reactions while trying to figure it out each other's servant identities.. but anyways, I think I did see some Naruverse PDF book while searching for some material but I only used it as a source of inspiration since the system was different (I used storytelling, D10 and stuff)

Yeah I get what you're saying, and I totally agree with you, actually, I know how true this is since I got several of my friends into playing VN and such but I couldn't do the same with my older brother. It was exactly because these forceful methods have the opposite effect on some people who don't like to be pushed around. But I haven't made this clear at the beggining of the thread because it was pretty long already and I was half drunk from lack of sleep (xD), but... I usually use these more forceful methods in ppl I have already hooked into the thing for them to experimentate more and more weirder stuff (MWAHAHAHA). Nah, just kidding, but anyways, I use it as a reasonably fair trading system with my pals, I get to see what they like and the same back at them, but sorry for not making it clearer before, it's not as forceful as it sounds. You can drop it anytime and just warn the other party about it, he'll accept no problem, after all, I would not want them to grind through it and hate it at the end. And, of course I get to choose something I know they'll be more likeable to see based on their personalities, and it was pretty successful so far. Of course, I'm not saying it is flawless, but I just wanted to let you know it isn't as annoying and forceful as I made it sound like, thanks for taking your time to reading it btw ^.^

I have, I have xDD. I'm already a TM fanboy, to the point of having played Hollow Ataraxia even partially translated and browsing the TM wiki randomly for hours in order to get some material to narrate an RPG based on the Fate series.. But I see your point, that method is pretty good too =D

Heya Mikel, just started posting here today as well, nice to meet you! Should you be taking suggestions, I'd go with what Steve told you too (he's got a pretty good taste >.<). And if you would, please tell me if Tears to Tiara is likeable enough, since it seems pretty long and I've kinda put it on hold indefinitely.

That explains the epicness in Madoka and FZ and SAO, I didn't know it was her, thx for the info =D

Yeah, KEY is pretty badass, just finished Tomoyo After, I'm thinking about picking up Rewrite now. Oh, and i did not mean to make you feel obliged to play or anything, sorry if it was somehow rude of me xD.

I just love OST's, I can hear them anytime no problem, regardless of being voiced or not, instrumental, orchestral, whatever. They really do make a difference in a VN, and I personally agree with some of the reviewing criteria of the Yandere Translation's reviewer (I don't even know if it's the site moderator or the like but anyway), which considers the music as a trait as "gradable" as the story, graphics, system, voice acting and such. Most people have already pointed it out, but Key really stands out in it's soundtracks, be it anime or VN. I just haven't noticed anyone pointing Yuki Kajiura, so I felt in kind of an obligation to share this >.< . Her songs are amazing, especially in Kara no Kyoukai and Mai Hime.

Well, I completely agree that the voicelessness feels somewhat lacking, but you'll get used to it. What really matters (to me at least) in a VN is the plot, and KS got some pretty solid ones. I dunno if it's a good thing or not, but eventually I started hearing some of the characters voices in my head xD. (Misha is pretty easy to picture though). U shoud really hear Tay out and rearrange some priorities of your to-do list.

Sharin is great too, but G-Senjou is definetively my favorite. I've read it two times now and I can't wait for it to "cooldown" so I can read it again. As for the sudden turn-around of Kyousuke's personality at Kanon's chapter, torbin12, I can't really explain it to you without spoiling some major issues, but it makes some sense once you have the full picture of what you're dealing with (mostly Haru's route).

Gee, I wasn't expecting this amount of replies, thx guys! Btw, sorry for the long post, I guess I just got into it a little bit too much, but thanks for the warm welcome anyway =D. Yeah Katawa Shoujo is pretty good, I'd say it's a good start for begginers because it's... how can I say, "realistic"? Kinda slice of life I guess. But that depends on the personality of each person. I often used Yume Miru for starters (for those who wouldn't mind the H scenes xD).

Hello everyone, I'll be using the nickname Sieg to share some thoughts of mine with you folks and listen to what you have to say from here on out on in this forum. Firstly, I'd like to say that I have never posted on forums before. I've read many as a fellow internet dweller, but never quite got into writing back and stuff. That is, simply put, due to not caring enough to discuss with other people about minor things that, to me at least, didn't really matter (like online games or manga forums). Of course, that is just my personal opinion and I'm not criticising people who do care about it. Nevertheless, what I do care about are Visual Novels, and I mean it. I might not be the greatest VN otaku that there is out there, nor do I know if by the VN culture standards I have played many or few titles, but what I do know is that I want other people to see what I saw and, if they can, enjoy VNs as much as I do. That said, when I decided to write this, it was heavily influenced on the fact that Fuwanovel is, basically, a site that longs to "make visual novels popular in the west". I found Fuwanovel by chance while I was searching Little Busters, shortly after the anime got announced on Sankaku Complex. Seeing how popular it was, I decided to give it a shot, and while browsing randomly I stumbled upon something like: "people are generally against playing VNs, but if you give it to them in a plate, they'd be more willing to try". How true is that? A lot, and Fuwanovel really made my life a lot easier in that regard. Enough about me, what I can do for our fellow otaku who still have friends is introduce you guys to what I like to call the "Trading System". I won't act like it's the greatest finding ever, but it's worth considering. For starters, it is only natural wanting to share your hobbies with your friends, right? Not only hobbies, but a simple movie you watch and find interesting enough is plenty of reason for you to start persuading your friends into watching it and the like. In doing so, you are putting at stake the "reputation" of your tastes, the responsibility of having your word put on stake. There are two possibilities from here: 1. The movie/series/game was acknowledged as fine, good or great by your friend and the "trust" of the trading relationship is maintained. 2. The other party has not enjoyed your suggestion as you thought he/she would. Thus, the "trust" of the trading relationship is somewhat or completely shaken. Now that's common sense, but I had to point it out for the sake of the following. If you have a relationship reasonable enough to be accounted as a friend that you can trust to some extent, you can bargain with that person in a fair "trade" of sorts. Say, you commit yourself into watching/reading whatever the other party recommends you to, and in return, you recommend something back, like a VN. There are two basic ways of doing so: 1. Start watching/reading whatever your friend suggested and then make your own recommendation. In doing so, said friend will feel in more of a obligation to take your part of the deal, like a verbal contract of sorts. In the event of refusal, you can aways threaten him/her with the abandon of his initial suggestion, thus breaking the deal. 2. By clarifying at the start of the exchange terms like, lenght, genre and the like. Like this, you don't get to "waste" your time in the event of an absolute failure of the first method, but due to the prejudice of anime, VN and the like it is less likely to work on total "riajuus" Sure, this ain't great news on persuading people and such, but fact is, if you want people to share your point of view, or at least try to do so, you've got to do the same. The trade can have many terms, clausules, rules or whatever, the important thing is getting them started, and maybe you yourself will get into something else as well. Hell, it could even be something completely unrelated like sports, but at the same time something among the lines of "sure, I'll play, but you gotta play something too". The point I brought on this topic was to spread and expand the VN/otaku culture alike in a closer circle of friends, but the simple blackmailing and contractual-like deals are of course effective in many other approaches. Thing is: even if I am being obvious or redundant, if this post gets even 1 more person to share the joy that are VN with this ever-growing community, then I'd say it was plenty useful. In the end, it's all about trying without fear. That does not mean to be reckless, bit persisten instead. I can say that this works since I got many of my friends into experimenting, and many more will follow. PS: sorry for any bad english