Zidan209 Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) I didn't notice anything extraordinary about the translation, just some peculiar vocabulary Edited January 30, 2018 by Zidan209 Thyndd 1 Quote
Fred the Barber Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 At least one of the people behind the fan translation of Sharin has disavowed it and actively discourages people from reading it, so, yeah, I'd wait for the official. Regarding G-Senjou: Spoiler The "twist" being such an ass-pull kinda ruined the VN for me. The epilogue was lovely and has certainly stuck with me, and I rather liked the bad end on Shiratori's route, but for the most part I just feel disgust for G-Senjou as a failure of a mystery. Â Dreamysyu and Thyndd 2 Quote
Dreamysyu Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Thyndd said: Well then, ok  Is it that bad or some the fan translation? Actually, I can't comment on that since I'm doing exactly the same thing. Well, I've seen some criticism regarding the existing translation, and official translations tend to be better anyway, and since it's most likely going to be out pretty soon, why shouldn't we wait for it? 4 hours ago, Thyndd said: I kinda went over it in the spoiler, though maybe I wasn't too specific.   Hide contents  For me calling it a twist is a bit of a stretch. There is this irony that I totally saw that coming but at the same time I knew it was not possible without pulling it out of your ass, but what with all the emphasis they put on the transitions between Kyousuke and Maou's perspective it was too obvious. And granted, as I said before, you could make up some half-assed excuses to account for all those false hints, but that's the same as saying that those are all a bunch of "coincidences" that were shown to you in order to fool you. That's just a very lazy plot device with no merit whatsoever from my perspective. For fuck's sake, they even had to make up all that bullshit of "Kyousuke behaved like Maou's at some points in the story because he was going crazy and actually believed he was" to justify his sudden change of mood the day after he kicked Usami out of his appartment and also that encounter with Tokita when she told him that there was something weird with him. That's not the story trying to fool you, which is completely fine, but the narrative itself. I don't think that's intelectually honest.  So yeah, that. The main twist: bleh. The rest of the story: absolutely stunning. That epilogue is going to hunt me for days.  I noticed a thing about G-senjou: practically every person who reads it agrees that this VN has a lot of flaws and a lot of great parts, but which of these two factors outweigh in the end heavily depends on each person's tastes and reading habits. Spoiler  Honestly, the "twist" is one of the reasons why I don't really like G-senjou. It sure has a lot of great moments, including its absolutely stunning epilogue, which could easily belong to a 10/10 VN, but at the same time it's flaws combined in a way that I couldn't enjoy it as much as I probably should've. Also, it probably wasn't the greatest idea on my part to read this VN right after finishing Muv-luv Alternative.  PS. Sorry, I wanted to make this comment more in-depth, but I'm a bit tired right now. Edited January 30, 2018 by Dreamysyu Thyndd 1 Quote
Thyndd Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dreamysyu said: I noticed a thing about G-senjou: practically every person who reads it agrees that this VN has a lot of flaws and a lot of great parts, but which of these two factors outweigh in the end heavily depends on each person's tastes and reading habits. Â 4 hours ago, Fred the Barber said: but for the most part I just feel disgust for G-Senjou as a failure of a mystery. I always like to focus on the good points of what I read. It's not that I'm oblivious to the many flaws it has, but I'd rather not get too obsessed over them and enjoy the story for what it actually did for me. And in the case of G-Senjou it did thrill and move me. Some of its scenes will always remain etched in my memory and that's good enough for me. Well then good people, I'll follow your advice and wait for the official english release of Sharin. In the meanwhile, I'll be reading Ever17. Edited January 30, 2018 by Thyndd Quote
Dreamysyu Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Thyndd said: I always like to focus on the good points of what I read. Actually, it's always a good thing to do. I try to do the same thing, but sometimes I fail. In case of G-senjou, it went more like this: I didn't particularly like many things people like about this VN, and at the same time the flaws were at places where it actually mattered to me. At the same time, I was starting to burn out about VNs at that time, and my real-life situation back then was actually pretty terrible. These factors combined together, and I didn't like this VN. Well, stuff this happens. I think, almost every VN reader has at least one popular VN they didn't enjoy. 28 minutes ago, Thyndd said: I'll be reading Ever17 Great pick, by the way! Just don't be spoiled, for this particular VN it actually matters, a lot! And spoilers are basically everywhere. By the way, I remember using some patches that used slightly improved version of the translation and fixed some errors. And I remember there were some problems running this game on the latest versions of Windows, so good luck with that. Edited January 30, 2018 by Dreamysyu Thyndd 1 Quote
Ranzo Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/30/2018 at 12:17 PM, Thyndd said:  I always like to focus on the good points of what I read. It's not that I'm oblivious to the many flaws it has, but I'd rather not get too obsessed over them and enjoy the story for what it actually did for me. And in the case of G-Senjou it did thrill and move me. Some of its scenes will always remain edged in my memory and that's good enough for me. Well then good people, I'll follow your advice and wait for the official english release of Sharin. In the meanwhile, I'll be reading Ever17. For me I thought G-Senjou was fantastic it's definitely in my top five sure there were some less than stellar parts (the whole headache thing was contrived, hardly any of the other characters routes mattered), but overall I thought it was great. I mean I think G Senjou has one of the greatest characters that I've ever witnessed (vn or otherwise) On Sharin no Kuni I mean if you want to wait then wait but I thought the translation was good I played the whole thing twice and I don't remember any glaring mistakes, though I'm sure if you were really looking for it you might find some. Ever 17 is pretty phenomenal though so you can't go wrong there.  So I started playing Tsujidou-san no Jun’ai Road and I was barely able to stop it was just that good! So far I love all the characters and how kickass they are Thyndd 1 Quote
Thyndd Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Started with Ever17 and I'm like 2 or 3 hours in. It seems it's gonna be quite the mindfuck huh? Â There's some technicalities I want to address though. They are supposed to be at freaking ~50Â meters. 6 atm is not nearly enough to crush a human body and I would assume that those LeMU installations aren't made of butter, so I guess that either I'm missing something or there's a lot more to the situation to yet be revealed. Â Edited January 31, 2018 by Thyndd Quote
Dreamysyu Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 11 hours ago, Thyndd said: Started with Ever17 and I'm like 2 or 3 hours in. It seems it's gonna be quite the mindfuck huh? Â Reveal hidden contents There's some technicalities I want to address though. They are supposed to be at freaking ~50Â meters. 6 atm is not nearly enough to crush a human body and I would assume that those LeMU installations aren't made of butter, so I guess that either I'm missing something or there's a lot more to the situation to yet be revealed. Â Spoiler Don't even bother with stuff like that. Science in Ever 17 is not even remotely realistic, and there are quite a lot a lot of things that... shouldn't be compared to the real life, lol. It's good for other things. Â Quote
eris Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 I'm playing through Cute Demon Crashers and it's so fucking healing. I wish more VNs emphasized consent. Plk_Lesiak and Mr Poltroon 2 Quote
Mr Poltroon Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, eris said: I'm playing through Cute Demon Crashers and it's so fucking healing. I wish more VNs emphasized consent. Yesssss. Quote
eris Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 There's even a Dom character who listens to everything you say!! And the gentle giant who asks you if you want him to use a condom even though there's no health-based reason to!! Excuse me while I go cry into my copy of The Ethical Slut. Ranzo 1 Quote
onorub Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Finished VA-11 HALL-A. It was good for what it was and it felt like a Snatcher side-story of sorts. Definitely one of my top OELVNs (can't say the same for overall VNs, though). BTW, i just realized that my whole top 5 OELVNs has lesbians in them. Westerners sure love their lesbians. Edited January 31, 2018 by onorub Plk_Lesiak 1 Quote
Plk_Lesiak Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, onorub said: BTW, i just realized that my whole top 5 OELVNs has lesbians in them. Westerners sure love their lesbians. Surprisingly enough, it seems to also be about lesbians loving to make and read VNs. At least that's my impression, there's a lot of females, including LGBT+ ones in the OELVN scene, it's one of the things that makes it interesting and different. :3 Edited January 31, 2018 by Plk_Lesiak eris 1 Quote
Jun Inoue Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 28 minutes ago, onorub said: Finished VA-11 HALL-A. It was good for what it was and it felt like a Snatcher side-story of sorts. Definitely one of my top OELVNs (can't say the same for overall VNs, though). BTW, i just realized that my whole top 5 OELVNs has lesbians in them. Westerners sure love their lesbians. If I remember correctly, Jill is actually bi... I think. Canicheslayer 1 Quote
r0xm2n Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 Finished Dal Segno. Not a bad VN. Spoiler It was bittersweet having Ame vanish, but having Kanade (her successor) appear months later... Now I'll go back to Clannad, and finally complete it. Quote
Zidan209 Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 I just finished Houzuki's chapter in Sharin fandisc, and man it was briliant. I don't know how popular Houzuki is around the internet, but i think he's a great character Spoiler Putting up Kenichi through a similiar ordeal as his own (or the one that Eri has set up for him), doing everything so thoroughly just to get stunned when he sees him surpass the point where he gave up, it just connects so cleverly. And the epilogue was just flawless. Motivated to continue where he left off many years ago, but with unwavering will this time... And the finishing quote pretty much gave me goosebumps. "The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and will to carry on." Â Â Quote
Ranzo Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 Finished Maki'sroute in Tsujidou-san no Jun’ai Road and I really enjoyed it she has the best expressions. One thing I really don't care for in it though is the goddamn sister. I am really getting sick of her annoying antics. Quote
VirginSmasher Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 I'm currently reading Dies Irae and boy, what a VN to end your 6 month hiatus from reading VNs. I've read Kasumi's and Kei's routes so far and they were both pretty great. The action and dialogue is really good as well. Also, it takes a lot for a VN to not have any characters that I outright don't like and this VN somehow pulls that off. I don't really know what else to say about it, but I truly await the next time I get to read it (which is tonight probably). Quote
littleshogun Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) Finished Seabed for a while, and up to Chapter 5 things were going slowly. However, by Chapter 6 it managed to pick up the steam until the final chapter - although it definitely help though that the later chapters were quite shorts. In the end I would say it's quite an interesting read, although you might be overwhelmed by psychology talk or the description of the sceneries though (I experienced that a lot). PS - I'm pretty much fine for the sprites, except for Nanae's in which her hand was quite long and skinny so much that it looks quite uncanny. By the way, some background did use very obvious CG image that looks like from PS1 game. Edited February 5, 2018 by littleshogun PhleBuster and Dreamysyu 2 Quote
Shiru Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 Finished Sorcery Jokers a few days ago, now I'm just going through shorter VNs - atm reading Un:Birthday Song(an otome FD) and then Koi ni, Kanmi wo Soete as a side read. Quote
littleshogun Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 (edited) As for my next VN, I'm going to play Tsujidou and seeing that this is quite a long VN, hope I'll managed to get through Tsujidou. Edited February 6, 2018 by littleshogun Ranzo 1 Quote
r0xm2n Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 Finally ....... unlocked the After Story in Clannad. Zidan209, Plk_Lesiak and Ranzo 3 Quote
Zidan209 Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 3 hours ago, r0xm2n said: Finally ....... unlocked the After Story in Clannad. Did you go with walkthrough? Because Sanae's part of after story can't be unlocked if you didn't pick a certain choice before Quote
HotTrax Posted February 8, 2018 Posted February 8, 2018 Grisaia PT Vol 4 - Like the past 3, it is fine. One more to go? Trinoline Genesis - Was happy to see Shirone be happy. Spoiler Since the original end was pretty sad for her. Her ending song is my new shit, soooo goood. Others routes are alright. From yorino, I would have liked to see Haruka after instead of Towa though. I liked her character more. Soi Kano - Very formulaic in terms of story beats but the anime ladies are too cute to care. Quote
r0xm2n Posted February 10, 2018 Posted February 10, 2018 Still playing the After Story arc in CLANNAD. That part smacked me in the feels. So ........ much. Spoiler That whole childbirth scene with Nagisa..... Â Quote
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