Stormwolf Posted July 4, 2020 Posted July 4, 2020 omg a visual novel for males which is not a school setting? is this real life? Quote
Silvz Posted July 4, 2020 Posted July 4, 2020 On 03/07/2020 at 2:43 AM, StringM said: Yeah you are right, Key definetely doesn't feel like it should be nsfw.  What's the best way to aim for another route btw? Just read the whole thing again? Or maybe go back to different saves? (I have some)  Edit:  Hide contents I just got my first H scene. It was MC fantazising over Sayuri and Mai having sex. It felt really weird and out of place, as you said lol  yeah, just run away from the H-scenes. Kanon is perfect enough without those horrid things Quote
Mr Poltroon Posted July 4, 2020 Posted July 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Stormwolf said: omg a visual novel for males which is not a school setting? is this real life? Could I ask what you are referring to here? Quote
Stormwolf Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 12 hours ago, Mr Poltroon said: Could I ask what you are referring to here? Master Magistrate Mr Poltroon 1 Quote
Mago Ivo Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 I just finished Summer Pockets. It tried to make me cry for a long time. I finally cracked 4 minutes before the end. Now it's time to start with Angel Beats! -1st beat-. I hope that it can make me cry too. P.S. : I don't know if it's normal, but I love to cry. Am I weird? Quote
Stormwolf Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 Yes, if you love to cry then you're weird. But it's not weird to cry Quote
Mr Poltroon Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Mago Ivo said: P.S. : I don't know if it's normal, but I love to cry. Am I weird? The entire genre exists for that purpose. Clearly it is not that odd a thing. Quote
Seraphim Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 Was planning to get started on my first VN in Japanese today. I picked KonoSora Flight Diary, because I deemed it fitting since the original was one of my first VNs and still one of my all-time favorites, but it's refusing to cooperate with me. Whenever I try to start the game, it freezes at the Pulltop logo and I have to end the process in the task manager. I've tried changing basically every setting in the launcher that appears before the game boots, but I get the same result every time. Any suggestions? (Yes, the computer is set to Japanese locale.) Quote
adamstan Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) No idea why it does that. I read console version with emulator and didn't have any problems. But I don't remember any problems with running PC version either. If it was locale problem it should crash with error message, not freeze. Still I consider PS3 version to be superior. Akari's route is much better than pretty lame Himegi sisters threesome scene it replaced. Replacement scenes in other routes are also cute. Edited July 5, 2020 by adamstan Seraphim 1 Quote
Seraphim Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 Maybe I'll give Cruise Sign a go then, because this doesn't seem to be working no matter what I do. adamstan 1 Quote
ArgentstR Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Seraphim88 said: Was planning to get started on my first VN in Japanese today. I picked KonoSora Flight Diary, because I deemed it fitting since the original was one of my first VNs and still one of my all-time favorites, but it's refusing to cooperate with me. Whenever I try to start the game, it freezes at the Pulltop logo and I have to end the process in the task manager. I've tried changing basically every setting in the launcher that appears before the game boots, but I get the same result every time. Any suggestions? (Yes, the computer is set to Japanese locale.) I think I had the same issue with the original game in JP. But I can't remember how I fixed it right now. Quote
Seraphim Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) I'm guessing RPCS3 is the way to go? I haven't done any emulation in years, so I'm not very educated about it nowadays. Edited July 5, 2020 by Seraphim88 Quote
adamstan Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Seraphim88 said: I'm guessing RPCS3 is the way to go? Yes. Cruise Sign works flawlessly with it. Seraphim 1 Quote
Seraphim Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) I wasn't able to find a Cruise Sign ISO anywhere, and since I don't have any way of playing disc-based games on my PC, I guess I'll have to abandon the idea of that right now. On the bright side, I finally got the PC version of Flight Diary to work. Not sure why, but it seems to run perfectly with a locale emulator. I hadn't even considered trying that before, since the computer's already set to Japanese locale and I have no trouble running other games in Japanese. Flight Diary is a special case, apparently. Anyway, I haven't had much time to try it out yet, but I've been slowly (we're talking less than a snail's pace here) moving through the beginning of Hotaru's route. I know a decent amount of kanji already, but I've realized that I really need to brush up on and improve my grammar and non-kanji vocabulary. That said, it's very satisfying to feel how certain things click into place in my mind, and I'm honestly kinda regretting not getting started with reading earlier, however slow it may be at first. Edited July 6, 2020 by Seraphim88 Quote
adamstan Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) Yesterday I finished first route in Natsu no Ame. It was Rikako's route. My impressions after that first route are good - it featured some nice character development, a twist or two, and lots of emotional moments. However, I feel like this VN is hindered by being an eroge - H-scenes are, to quote Joyjason's otherwise glowing and enthusiastic review kind of a double-edged sword here. They were not bad, but sometimes their placement felt a bit awkward, and in other places it felt like a story has been bent just to make a room for a sex scene. Also, there was one completely unnecessary pantyshot CG of Tomomi (MC's little sister, who isn't a heroine) It gave me YU-NO flashbacks It might sound like a heresy, but I'd love to see non-porn version of this VN, preferably in NekoNyansoft's format It seems like Rikako is kind of main heroine here - she's for Natsu no Ame what Kotori was for Konosora. Let's see how the remaining three routes turn out  Edited July 12, 2020 by adamstan Seraphim 1 Quote
Soul Hunter Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Right now I'm replaying Tsujidou-san no Junai Road because this game's romance is the best so far until now for me and I can't get enough of it. But I need to end Aokana, I was almost finishing some weeks ago but got bored at some point in Asuka's route, and I stopped playing Misaki's route because I want to leave her for last since she is best girl, I'll come back to it after finishing my replay of Tsujidou, and I also started playing Chaos Child some months ago but stopped because college, I'll play it probably after finishing Aokana. I'm still hoping Masaya from Aokana will come back to FC and have his match with Shindou since he deserves it, and his reason for quitting is so fucking stupid, Masaya can't be that pathetic come on, he is the protagonist he needs to shine, this game will disappoint me if he doesn't restart playing FC. Quote
adamstan Posted July 14, 2020 Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) Yesterday I started Ageha's Midori's route in Natsu no Ame. I'm still at the beginning, but I'm already liking her very much. She brings that nice feeling - she's great friend and it feels good just to be around her. When reading yesterday I found myself smiling most of the time Edited July 14, 2020 by adamstan Quote
littleshogun Posted July 14, 2020 Posted July 14, 2020 I did remember that my roommate did play Natsu no Ame using ATLAS, and that we still didn't have it translated yet unlike Yosuga no Sora (It's been at already 100% translated). I just hope that sometime we'll have it translated, if only for passionate Hitomi Nabatame-voiced love-making scenes and more importantly Kantoku's art. Quote
Stormwolf Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) On 7/13/2020 at 6:56 PM, Soul Hunter said: Right now I'm replaying Tsujidou-san no Junai Road because this game's romance is the best so far until now for me and I can't get enough of it. But I need to end Aokana, I was almost finishing some weeks ago but got bored at some point in Asuka's route, and I stopped playing Misaki's route because I want to leave her for last since she is best girl, I'll come back to it after finishing my replay of Tsujidou, and I also started playing Chaos Child some months ago but stopped because college, I'll play it probably after finishing Aokana. I'm still hoping Masaya from Aokana will come back to FC and have his match with Shindou since he deserves it, and his reason for quitting is so fucking stupid, Masaya can't be that pathetic come on, he is the protagonist he needs to shine, this game will disappoint me if he doesn't restart playing FC. Too bad the group didn't translate it's fandisc as the routes end in a "to be continuted" fashion. Edited July 15, 2020 by Stormwolf Quote
Soul Hunter Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Stormwolf said: Too bad the group didn't translate it's fandisc as the routes end in a "to be continuted" fashion. Are you talking about Tsujidou? If yes then I couldn't agree more with you, when I was reading Ai's after story I spent as much time as possible reading and rereading each line (my rate was pressing Enter 1 time per 3 minutes ) before appearing the inevitable, horrible and cruel "FIN", but then it happened, the game FUCKING ENDED, it's such a shame that things tend to end, but at least this boosted my motivation to continue studying japanese, I think one day I'll learn it and be able to play Virgin Road, I'm still stuck in the basics but am able to understand some basic sentences. If you're talking about Aokana then the only thing I want is for Masaya to come back to FC, I finished all routes today and he doesn't play a single match which was a HUGE disappointment, the game even kept foreshadowing his match with Shindou, but for what? At least the romance is good, won't hurt seeing more of it in a sequel/fandisk/whatever. Quote
Eclipsed Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 Still slogging through Chaos;Head Child LOL LOOK HOW BAD MY SAVE TIME STAMPS ARE: Spoiler So it's been a little more than a month and a half now that I've been casually reading through this? I've finished the common route, Hinae's route, and currently going through Hana's route, then will do Uki's then Nono's and finally the TRUE route. So ETA completion at this pace should be by September or something  Mr Poltroon 1 Quote
Eclipsed Posted July 19, 2020 Posted July 19, 2020 Welp so much for September lol, I just binged the rest of Chaos;Child last night, meaning Hana's route, then Uki's route, then Nono's and finally the true route. It's a pretty good VN. Chaos;Child takes place 6 years after the key events of Chaos;Head's New Generation Madness killings and the Shibuya Earthquake, but focuses on a new cast, so an indirect sequel. The protagonist is an upgraded version of Chaos;Head's (first) Takumi Nishijou by the name of (first) Takuru Miyashiro: upgraded in that he's less of an extreme hikkikomori (shut in) who avoided social contact at all costs and was a stuttering mess if he did interact with people, and more of just a typical awkward high school boy with his own hard beliefs on him being a right-sider and everyone else a wrong-sider. A much more bearable protagonist if you ask me. Takuru is the president of his own newspaper club, with the members being his inseparable ditzy childhood friend Serika Onoe, his naggy but evercaring foster sister Nono Kurusu who's also the student council president and VP of the newspaper club (she's my best girl btw), Hana Kazuki the 'mute' gamer girl who only ever utters "Mmm" and mainly just plays her online ESO2 game in the newspaper clubroom, and Shinji Itou the male protagonist best friend support guy. Other characters include Hinae Arimura: a blonde twintail kouhai who acts very superficially friendly around her friends and Mio Kunosato, the "what if we take Steins;gate's Kurisu and make her completely unlikeable" cold hard facts scientist type. Takuru used to be a part of Dr. Sakuma Wataru's household: Sakuma is an easygoing doctor who owns his own Aoba Clinic and he adopted Takuru, Nono, and siblings Yui & Yuto Tachibana- orphans from the Shibuya Earthquake 6 years ago. The family eventually grew fairly tight-knit, always gathering for supper to exchange pleasantries about their days under a "keep no secrets from each other" policy. However, Takuru angrily moved out into his own trailer 6 months prior to the start of Chaos;Child after feeling betrayed when the secrets policy was violated against him by none other than Nono (resulting in him calling her Kurusu, her last name, from that point on. Ouch). As president of the newspaper club, Takuru has a thirst for chasing exotic cases he feels would shake the world. Fortunately for him, a new set of bizarre murders start occurring in Shibuya- and interestingly enough they are dated to occur on the same days as the ones that occurred during the New Generation Madness killings from Chaos;Head 6 years ago! Takuru easily gets hook-line-and-sinker'd and begins to obsess over investigating and solving the case, much to Nono's dismay. The first 6 chapters will meander between Takuru's everyday slice of life with his newspaper club shenanigans, his friends, and his adoptive family as the New Generation Madness Killings continue to make headlines all over Shibuya. Will Takuru be able to solve the case, or is he getting in way over his head?! Story: 8.5/10. Common route starts off slow with the slice of life and preparing for culture festival but once the term Gigalomaniac makes it onto the screen the story starts picking up. It involves a lot of pseudoscience/supernatural powers that can affect reality jargon and are channeled via Di-Swords (A.K.A. BIG F*CKING exotic supernatural swords) btw so it can feel a bit Chuuni at times. The concept of delusions was interesting. There are a fair amount of plot revelations that change the very nature of characters entirely that can add some "let me go back to this scene now that I know this" reread value. Overall enjoyable. Characters: 9/10. Takuru was nowhere near as unbearable as Takumi. Nono would probably be on my top 5 heroines if I did have a list. Idk, the student council president + nagging worrywart but legitimately caring older sister type was a complete and utter win for me. Hinae was the guilty pleasure. Hana and Uki were kind of like the filler heroines, but passable. Art: 9/10. Has that clean modern moe look. Particularly loved all of best girl Nono CGs. Some CGs can look a bit low quality though. Spoiler Nono (right) so pretty uwuu Music: 8/10. They got some good tracks. The title theme World is pretty up there along with their other works like Steins;gate + (0). Visible Essence is the revelation theme and its quite badass when you do get it. Spoiler    !!!SPOILERS!!! MISC. THOUGHTS/COMMENTS (MAJOR MAJOR SPOILERS) Finally can rant about the juicy bits. Spoiler I guess I'll try to go in order. I read common route -> Hinae -> Hana -> Uki -> Nono -> True route based on some walkthrough on STEAM, and yeah it's a pretty good flow. I was so tempted to read Nono's route first because best girl, but I actually am glad I saved her for last. Made the whole revelation about Nono that much more impactful for me. Common route: Spoiler RIP YUI TACHIBANA Ok, I liked Yui. Especially after she said she would beat up all the bullies who were bullying her little brother Yuto. There were some MAJOR MAJOR goosebumps to be had when Takuru called Itou to confirm Yui was with him and you could just tell by the way he was talking that something was horribly horribly off. Made even more disgusting when you learn later on who the true killer is. But Itou was a nice distraction. I was truly like, wait wtf are they really gonna make this guy the mastermind, there's no way... The killer is one of those three?! The newspaper club room investigation segments in general were decently fun, minus the first one where you had to match the dates with the Chaos;head murders, it's like how the hell are we supposed to know. Btw I was at first hoping for the killer to be Takuru, as in he had a split personality and he orchestrated this entire thing as a game for himself. Well, technically he was indirectly responsible... Then the writers had the fking gall to kill off Kurusu shortly after while revealing Serika the childhood ditzy best friend as the culprit behind the murders. Probably one of the bigger WHAMS I've ever had the pleasure of experiencing: Many manly tears were shed for Nono ;-;. I actually read through Yui's and Nono's deaths on the same day, and it didn't really register to me during the read until I was in bed sleeping. Then it hit me and I mourned for them HARD lmao. They even had a secondary NPC mourn for Nono, she's just that great a character: Amen. Then to continue beating the dead horse we get slapped with LOL SAKUMA IS ACTUALLY THE BAD GUY, HE WAS WORKING WITH SERIKA THE WHOLE TIME SO THEY'RE BOTH THE MASTERMINDS BEHIND THE NEW GENERATION MADNESS KILLINGS PT.2, OH BTW HE DID THE WHOLE ADOPTING GIGALOMANIACS PURELY "FOR FUN" LOL YOU FELL FOR IT SUCKERRRR The level of betrayal felt here was actually really well done. This dude had a cute ass family, but it was all done purely for his research. Just look at some of his quips with his kids: Really sounds like a normal parent. The shock factor of this reveal is equivalent to, say, having Naruto's dad actually being the big bad. Or maybe Ash Ketchum's mom being the big bad. Yup. I genuinely never expected Sakuma to be the big baddy. Nono legitimately dies believing in her father and never suspecting him. Very thematically tragic. Unfortunately we will never get to see Nono actually confront him since she's either dead or he's dead. A shame. Would've liked to see that interaction. ~~ Serika originally being Takuru's imaginary friend turned real when he got his Gigalomaniac powers from the Shibuya Earthquake with her only purpose being fulfill Takuru's desires thus resulting in her masterminding the New Generation Madness Killings pt.2 so he could solve the case and be crowned as a hero ala Nishijou Takumi from C;H was an OK reveal. Didn't shock me too much, especially since I remember Chaos;Head doing something slightly similar with Shogun and Takumi but yeah. Pretty decent stuff.  Hinae Spoiler Ok, ngl, I forgot a lot about what happens in her route. Uhhh her family had trust issues so when she got her lie detector powers it made her distant from everyone because knowing whether people are truth or lying made everyday conversation superficial. Hinae and Takuru flirt a bit, he's really easy to read and typically genuine with his interactions so she falls for him a lot, unfortunately murders UNRELATED to the New Gen Madness start happening, Hinae randomly starts seeing her dead brother (who was apparently real booted into existance due to Hana, oops + nice foreshadowing on Hana's power), then Hinae's mom tries to kill her because of the 'you ruined my life, you should've never been born!' trope. Oh no. Hinae in general is my guilty pleasure character, she definitely bolstered the slice of life interactions with her superficially friendly banter and ability to call people out when they lie, but also when the time is right she is able to provide key insight such as whenever Nono says a lie regarding Senri for them sweet sweet foreshadow points. Takuru dies protecting Hinae from her mom, and for some reason even though he's dead his consciousness still exists. EERIE AS F*CK That kind of REALLY went over my head until I finished the VN and started reading up on various analyses and reviews. But apparently that was supposed to be a big hint that all the heroine routes are delusions for when they are in a coma between the common route/Sakuma duel and when the true route takes off 3 months after: the routes are all just a looping synchro delusion between Takuru and the heroines. Really really cool concept. Nice fanservice shot of Hinae btw. Though, it's technically fan disservice when you learn about the truth about Chaos;Child Syndrome lmao.  Hana Spoiler Eyyy gamer girl finally gets to talk! I wonder how the VA is compensated, did they pick a lower tier VA/she get less pay since she had significantly less lines to record and whatnot lol. Hana's route was alright. Had some touching moments like how Nono forcing her to join the Newspaper Club actually gave her a sense of purpose and how she genuinely appreciated being a part of something even though she didn't talk at all. Hana in general throughout the various routes is pretty consistent in being the just there to support person, which to her credit she pulls of well and she definitely felt like a part of the team. Her muteness was explained as being a conscious result of her power: whatever she says has the potential to real boot based on anyone who hears what she says. She has no control over it, so things can easily get out of hand and so she stays mute. Annnnd of course her route involves her accidentally summoning portals and monsters from her online game all over the Shibuya. She's thus deemed a threat by the Committee of 300, a Steins;gate SERN equivalent off screen big baddie organization and so Mr. Wakui, previously just an aloof friendly teacher, turns out to be from said organization and tasked with assassinating them and so Hana real boots an attack-on-titan equivalent of a sumo sticker and they do battle. The Mr. Wakui = bad guy reveal was done pretty well, almost comparable to the "something's off with Itou right when he's about to kill Yui": OH SHIT Speaking of Knightheart, one of the definite highlights of this route is the existence of Hana's online game friend KnightHeart A.K.A. Chaos;Head's Takumi Nishijou. I totally have a hard-on for characters to show up in the sequels so even though I hated Takumi's guts in C;H he was a total badass here: LMAO, I TOTALLY BET TAKUMI HAD A DELUSION ABOUT HANA FLASHING WAKUI WTF MAN. SUMOOOOOO TIIIIIIIIIIITAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNN  Uki Spoiler Another filler girl that doubles as the Yui Tachibana replacement. Uki was found in the basement of the Hospital that experimented on Gigalomaniacs and while Takuru spends a good amount of the common route suspecting her of the evils she eventually turns out to be just a little girl who wants to fulfill people's desires. She's adopted by Sakuma and becomes the new little sister of the family. Her route was surprisingly entertaining due to its nature of being a complete delusional world created to keep Takuru alive after he intercepted and was impaled by an enraged Uki's Di-Sword lunging towards Itou who freshly killed Yui. Takuru is HAPPY in this world- there are some high quality fun slice of life moments to be had and is oblivious to the truth of this world. A+ Banter. Eventually Nono and Serika are able to call out to Takuru in this delusion world and tell him that he needs to wake up or he will never be able to. The reason? It wasn't Takuru who was impaled by Uki, it was Takuru who impaled Uki when he was trying to protect Itou! And this was HER delusional world, not his! So if his consciousness was trapped in her world and she died, it's game over. Takuru still almost accepts his happy delusional world fate (it's one of the badends actually) before real Uki comes in to fix things. Delusional Uki doesn't accept reality and so they battle. Cute lolis with swords Route ends with either Uki dying for real or ending up in a vegetative state, to which Takuru decides to spend the rest of his life atoning. Nono Spoiler Yay, best girl time. Also thoroughly enjoyed her route too, no bias included (jk). When it comes to VNs with branching paths I always like to see if the choices made make sense in splitting the timelines; in this case Takuru apparently had enough positive delusions involving Nono during the common route that he was able to make it to the Nono vs Serika duel in time to save Nono this time! WHOOOOO GO TAKURU YOU'RE SO MUCH MORE MANLY A PROTAGONIST THAT TAKUMI EVER WAS!!@# NGL I lowkey wanted this route to involve Sakuma more and have Nono learn the truth about his fakeness and confront him about it and then maybe he would see the light and realize that he had a wonderful thing going on with his family and change his ways, but l0lnope Serika offscreens him moments after the above encounter ggez. With Sakuma dead, Nono steps up evermore as the affectionate eldest sister worrying about where the family would live now and even contemplating quitting school to go work so they could pay for living expenses. God Nono is such a great character. The surviving members of Aoba Clinic: Takuru, Nono, Yuto and Uki then move to a run down dinghy apartment (right next to the cold scientist Mio Kunosato, much to Nono's disappointment). Takuru begins calling Nono by her first name again after a heart to heart session. They lie low and avoid going to school for a while out of fear of Serika, but eventually Hinae and Hana track them down and begin regularly visiting under the guise of newspaper club room activities. Desperate lovesick loserboy Kawahara Masashi (who was part of Nono - Senri - Kawahara childhood friendship) eventually tracks Nono down as well and goes on a spitballing "your family isn't truly your family, Senri wasn't your best friend, Takuru is a nobody, I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO UNDERSTANDS YOU, THE ONLY ONE WHO LOVES YOU!" like a dumbass in front of the household before finally getting shoo'ed away. This unfortunately causes the group to casually inquire about Senri to Nono, who responds rather awkwardly, causing Hinae to pick up that she's lying about something. Takuru attempts multiple times to find out what and why exactly Nono is lying, but she continues to dodge much to his frustration especially due to the family's 'no secret's' policy. And so the big reveal, courtesy of Serika's mind reading powers? Nono Kurusu- the real Nono Kurusu- died 6 years ago from the Shibuya Earthquake. Senri Minamisawa, a girl who had nothing who looked up to Nono and wanted to become her, awakened the power to shapeshift. She took on Nono's appearance to the exact, and in the heat of the moment burned Nono's body and claimed the body to be that of Senri's. Senri, looking exactly like Nono, would live on as Nono Kurusu. Now I didn't find that lie- that "Nono" was actually Senri- to be all that bad. Cuz I knew her feelings all this time were indeed genuine. Naturally we need drama though and so Takuru would blow up in her face about being a liar and a fake and call her out on what other potential things she could be lying about (which is totally valid). (Luckily in the true route, the writers gloss over this and Takuru simply goes "idiot, you should've told me sooner" to the Nono = Senri reveal). Btw, sucks to be Kawahara. The real Nono is long dead so he's been chasing SenriNono all this time, all while having already loudly claiming his hatred for Senri in his earlier outburst. Talk about awkward. Takuru would go on a heroic BSOD and find life to be pointless at this point, so Serika appears to grant him his wish of ending his life. Nono, having resolved herself to no longer live a fake life and instead be true to herself, appears as her original Senri self and vows to protect her little brother at all costs. This touches Takuru deeply and so he is able to finally forgive her. Serika, staying true to her purpose of satisfying Takuru's desires, knows she has no place in their future and so she makes one last valiant stand as the big bad: It's a very touching route. Nono- no, Senri- was a girl who started out with nothing but a best friend whom she looked up to dearly and dreamed of becoming. She eventually did get her wish out of some twisted fate and became Nono Kurusu, but to be fair everything she built up for herself from that point on- her family at Aoba Clinic, her position as student council president and reputation among classmates as the "Empress"- was the result of her own efforts. Admittedly a part of me was sad at the fact that Nono Kurusu is dead, and it did feel weird to have Senri Minamisawa be the true identity of the best girl I fawned over this entire VN. But alas,  True Route Spoiler You just need a couple screenies and 'nuff said:  Like holy f*ck I know they explicitly said in the very beginning of the VN that Chaos;Child Syndrome was a psychogenetical schizophrenia disorder or whatever that resulted from the Shibuya Earthquake and that the patients didn't realize they had a disorder but man this was by far one of the biggest mindblows I've ever gotten from a VN lol. Let me repost the normal looking screeny of the one above because goddamn I never knew you could make Nono look bad LOL Ahhh... much better... Not much else to say. Takuru takes the fall as the mastermind behind the New Generation Madness Killings and is locked up, but not before succeeding in becoming the first patient to break out of Chaos;Child syndrome and thus allowing Mio to develop a cure for the rest of the patients, and atoning for Serika by real booting her to become a regular normal girl and living a normal life. No problems with this ending.    Overall: 8.5/10. Legit did not think I would like this sci-fi adv VN as much due to how much I despised Chaos;Head. It was good enough that I actually want to reread Chaos;Head so I can catch up on all the story beats and whatnot, but ahh nvm. Will look forward to reading Robotics;Notes + DaSH when they do come out to EN on the Switch later this year. I'll watch the 6.5/10 MAL rated anime of Chaos;Child real quick because I like to see things animated even though they'll probably butcher it so bad since only lol12episodes for a 30-50+ hr VN. E: lol yeah, the anime is only enjoyable as a "let's watch a recap of Chaos;child" right after finishing the VN itself. So many disappointed people who were like I don't get it or it's a rushed mess (which it definitely was, but I obviously was able to keep up and just enjoy seeing everything animated) Ruvik, Seraphim and Mr Poltroon 3 Quote
adamstan Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) Yesterday I finished Midori's route in Natsu no Ame. It had very different tone compared to Rikako's route - it was much more lighthearted. I'd compare its mood to Making Lovers. For now, I think Midori might be my favorite character from this VN Â First h-scene happened totally out of the blue, but well, it wasn't something that couldn't happen at all, so I won't complain too much And scenes themselves, while fairly generic, had some nice dialogues in them, so all in all they were nice. By that I mean, there was some love there, not just technical descriptions of fucking coupled with moans and slurps (although those were present as well) Also, I really liked kissing CG before third scene. BTW now that I browsed through CG gallery, it seems that Rikako is the only one with four h-scenes - other heroines have three. And perhaps that fourth one was the one too many? Because, while reading Midori's route, I didn't have that feeling of h-content being forced / squeezed in, or at least not as much as in Rikako's route. Maybe they had better lead-ins (apart from the first one ) Now I'm reading Hinako's (osananajimi) route. It's again more serious mood than Midori's. Some people said it was boring - let's see how will it turn out for me. Edited July 20, 2020 by adamstan Seraphim 1 Quote
Stormwolf Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 12 hours ago, Eclipsed said: Welp so much for September lol, I just binged the rest of Chaos;Child last night, meaning Hana's route, then Uki's route, then Nono's and finally the true route. It's a pretty good VN. Chaos;Child takes place 6 years after the key events of Chaos;Head's New Generation Madness killings and the Shibuya Earthquake, but focuses on a new cast, so an indirect sequel. The protagonist is an upgraded version of Chaos;Head's (first) Takumi Nishijou by the name of (first) Takuru Miyashiro: upgraded in that he's less of an extreme hikkikomori (shut in) who avoided social contact at all costs and was a stuttering mess if he did interact with people, and more of just a typical awkward high school boy with his own hard beliefs on him being a right-sider and everyone else a wrong-sider. A much more bearable protagonist if you ask me. Takuru is the president of his own newspaper club, with the members being his inseparable ditzy childhood friend Serika Onoe, his naggy but evercaring foster sister Nono Kurusu who's also the student council president and VP of the newspaper club (she's my best girl btw), Hana Kazuki the 'mute' gamer girl who only ever utters "Mmm" and mainly just plays her online ESO2 game in the newspaper clubroom, and Shinji Itou the male protagonist best friend support guy. Other characters include Hinae Arimura: a blonde twintail kouhai who acts very superficially friendly around her friends and Mio Kunosato, the "what if we take Steins;gate's Kurisu and make her completely unlikeable" cold hard facts scientist type. Takuru used to be a part of Dr. Sakuma Wataru's household: Sakuma is an easygoing doctor who owns his own Aoba Clinic and he adopted Takuru, Nono, and siblings Yui & Yuto Tachibana- orphans from the Shibuya Earthquake 6 years ago. The family eventually grew fairly tight-knit, always gathering for supper to exchange pleasantries about their days under a "keep no secrets from each other" policy. However, Takuru angrily moved out into his own trailer 6 months prior to the start of Chaos;Child after feeling betrayed when the secrets policy was violated against him by none other than Nono (resulting in him calling her Kurusu, her last name, from that point on. Ouch). As president of the newspaper club, Takuru has a thirst for chasing exotic cases he feels would shake the world. Fortunately for him, a new set of bizarre murders start occurring in Shibuya- and interestingly enough they are dated to occur on the same days as the ones that occurred during the New Generation Madness killings from Chaos;Head 6 years ago! Takuru easily gets hook-line-and-sinker'd and begins to obsess over investigating and solving the case, much to Nono's dismay. The first 6 chapters will meander between Takuru's everyday slice of life with his newspaper club shenanigans, his friends, and his adoptive family as the New Generation Madness Killings continue to make headlines all over Shibuya. Will Takuru be able to solve the case, or is he getting in way over his head?! Story: 8.5/10. Common route starts off slow with the slice of life and preparing for culture festival but once the term Gigalomaniac makes it onto the screen the story starts picking up. It involves a lot of pseudoscience/supernatural powers that can affect reality jargon and are channeled via Di-Swords (A.K.A. BIG F*CKING exotic supernatural swords) btw so it can feel a bit Chuuni at times. The concept of delusions was interesting. There are a fair amount of plot revelations that change the very nature of characters entirely that can add some "let me go back to this scene now that I know this" reread value. Overall enjoyable. Characters: 9/10. Takuru was nowhere near as unbearable as Takumi. Nono would probably be on my top 5 heroines if I did have a list. Idk, the student council president + nagging worrywart but legitimately caring older sister type was a complete and utter win for me. Hinae was the guilty pleasure. Hana and Uki were kind of like the filler heroines, but passable. Art: 9/10. Has that clean modern moe look. Particularly loved all of best girl Nono CGs. Some CGs can look a bit low quality though.  Reveal hidden contents Nono (right) so pretty uwuu Music: 8/10. They got some good tracks. The title theme World is pretty up there along with their other works like Steins;gate + (0). Visible Essence is the revelation theme and its quite badass when you do get it.  Reveal hidden contents    !!!SPOILERS!!! MISC. THOUGHTS/COMMENTS (MAJOR MAJOR SPOILERS) Finally can rant about the juicy bits.  Hide contents I guess I'll try to go in order. I read common route -> Hinae -> Hana -> Uki -> Nono -> True route based on some walkthrough on STEAM, and yeah it's a pretty good flow. I was so tempted to read Nono's route first because best girl, but I actually am glad I saved her for last. Made the whole revelation about Nono that much more impactful for me. Common route:  Reveal hidden contents RIP YUI TACHIBANA Ok, I liked Yui. Especially after she said she would beat up all the bullies who were bullying her little brother Yuto. There were some MAJOR MAJOR goosebumps to be had when Takuru called Itou to confirm Yui was with him and you could just tell by the way he was talking that something was horribly horribly off. Made even more disgusting when you learn later on who the true killer is. But Itou was a nice distraction. I was truly like, wait wtf are they really gonna make this guy the mastermind, there's no way... The killer is one of those three?! The newspaper club room investigation segments in general were decently fun, minus the first one where you had to match the dates with the Chaos;head murders, it's like how the hell are we supposed to know. Btw I was at first hoping for the killer to be Takuru, as in he had a split personality and he orchestrated this entire thing as a game for himself. Well, technically he was indirectly responsible... Then the writers had the fking gall to kill off Kurusu shortly after while revealing Serika the childhood ditzy best friend as the culprit behind the murders. Probably one of the bigger WHAMS I've ever had the pleasure of experiencing: Many manly tears were shed for Nono ;-;. I actually read through Yui's and Nono's deaths on the same day, and it didn't really register to me during the read until I was in bed sleeping. Then it hit me and I mourned for them HARD lmao. They even had a secondary NPC mourn for Nono, she's just that great a character: Amen. Then to continue beating the dead horse we get slapped with LOL SAKUMA IS ACTUALLY THE BAD GUY, HE WAS WORKING WITH SERIKA THE WHOLE TIME SO THEY'RE BOTH THE MASTERMINDS BEHIND THE NEW GENERATION MADNESS KILLINGS PT.2, OH BTW HE DID THE WHOLE ADOPTING GIGALOMANIACS PURELY "FOR FUN" LOL YOU FELL FOR IT SUCKERRRR The level of betrayal felt here was actually really well done. This dude had a cute ass family, but it was all done purely for his research. Just look at some of his quips with his kids: Really sounds like a normal parent. The shock factor of this reveal is equivalent to, say, having Naruto's dad actually being the big bad. Or maybe Ash Ketchum's mom being the big bad. Yup. I genuinely never expected Sakuma to be the big baddy. Nono legitimately dies believing in her father and never suspecting him. Very thematically tragic. Unfortunately we will never get to see Nono actually confront him since she's either dead or he's dead. A shame. Would've liked to see that interaction. ~~ Serika originally being Takuru's imaginary friend turned real when he got his Gigalomaniac powers from the Shibuya Earthquake with her only purpose being fulfill Takuru's desires thus resulting in her masterminding the New Generation Madness Killings pt.2 so he could solve the case and be crowned as a hero ala Nishijou Takumi from C;H was an OK reveal. Didn't shock me too much, especially since I remember Chaos;Head doing something slightly similar with Shogun and Takumi but yeah. Pretty decent stuff.  Hinae  Reveal hidden contents Ok, ngl, I forgot a lot about what happens in her route. Uhhh her family had trust issues so when she got her lie detector powers it made her distant from everyone because knowing whether people are truth or lying made everyday conversation superficial. Hinae and Takuru flirt a bit, he's really easy to read and typically genuine with his interactions so she falls for him a lot, unfortunately murders UNRELATED to the New Gen Madness start happening, Hinae randomly starts seeing her dead brother (who was apparently real booted into existance due to Hana, oops + nice foreshadowing on Hana's power), then Hinae's mom tries to kill her because of the 'you ruined my life, you should've never been born!' trope. Oh no. Hinae in general is my guilty pleasure character, she definitely bolstered the slice of life interactions with her superficially friendly banter and ability to call people out when they lie, but also when the time is right she is able to provide key insight such as whenever Nono says a lie regarding Senri for them sweet sweet foreshadow points. Takuru dies protecting Hinae from her mom, and for some reason even though he's dead he still exists. EERIE AS F*CK That kind of REALLY went over my head until I finished the VN and started reading up on various analyses and reviews. But apparently that was supposed to be a big hint that all the heroine routes are delusions for when they are in a coma between the common route/Sakuma duel and when the true route takes off 3 months after: the routes are all just a looping synchro delusion between Takuru and the heroines. Really really cool concept. Nice fanservice shot of Hinae btw. Though, it's technically fan disservice when you learn about the truth about Chaos;Child Syndrome lmao.  Hana  Reveal hidden contents Eyyy gamer girl finally gets to talk! I wonder how the VA is compensated, did they pick a lower tier VA/she get less pay since she had significantly less lines to record and whatnot lol. Hana's route was alright. Had some touching moments like how Nono forcing her to join the Newspaper Club actually gave her a sense of purpose and how she genuinely appreciated being a part of something even though she didn't talk at all. Hana in general throughout the various routes is pretty consistent in being the just there to support person, which to her credit she pulls of well and she definitely felt like a part of the team. Her muteness was explained as being a conscious result of her power: whatever she says has the potential to real boot based on anyone who hears what she says. She has no control over it, so things can easily get out of hand and so she stays mute. Annnnd of course her route involves her accidentally summoning portals and monsters from her online game all over the Shibuya. She's thus deemed a threat by the Committee of 300, a Steins;gate SERN equivalent off screen big baddie organization and so Mr. Wakui, previously just an aloof friendly teacher, turns out to be from said organization and tasked with assassinating them and so Hana real boots an attack-on-titan equivalent of a sumo sticker and they do battle. The Mr. Wakui = bad guy reveal was done pretty well, almost comparable to the "something's off with Itou right when he's about to kill Yui": OH SHIT Speaking of Knightheart, one of the definite highlights of this route is the existence of Hana's online game friend KnightHeart A.K.A. Chaos;Head's Takumi Nishijou. I totally have a hard-on for characters to show up in the sequels so even though I hated Takumi's guts in C;H he was a total badass here: LMAO, I TOTALLY BET TAKUMI HAD A DELUSION ABOUT HANA FLASHING WAKUI WTF MAN. SUMOOOOOO TIIIIIIIIIIITAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNN  Uki  Reveal hidden contents Another filler girl that doubles as the Yui Tachibana replacement. Uki was found in the basement of the Hospital that experimented on Gigalomaniacs and while Takuru spends a good amount of the common route suspecting her of the evils she eventually turns out to be just a little girl who wants to fulfill people's desires. She's adopted by Sakuma and becomes the new little sister of the family. Her route was surprisingly entertaining due to its nature of being a complete delusional world created to keep Takuru alive after he intercepted and was impaled by an enraged Uki's Di-Sword lunging towards Itou who freshly killed Yui. Takuru is HAPPY in this world- there are some high quality fun slice of life moments to be had and is oblivious to the truth of this world. A+ Banter. Eventually Nono and Serika are able to call out to Takuru in this delusion world and tell him that he needs to wake up or he will never be able to. The reason? It wasn't Takuru who was impaled by Uki, it was Takuru who impaled Uki when he was trying to protect Itou! And this was HER delusional world, not his! So if his consciousness was trapped in her world and she died, it's game over. Takuru still almost accepts his happy delusional world fate (it's one of the badends actually) before real Uki comes in to fix things. Delusional Uki doesn't accept reality and so they battle. Cute lolis with swords Route ends with either Uki dying for real or ending up in a vegetative state, to which Takuru decides to spend the rest of his life atoning. Nono  Reveal hidden contents Yay, best girl time. Also thoroughly enjoyed her route too, no bias included (jk). When it comes to VNs with branching paths I always like to see if the choices made make sense in splitting the timelines; in this case Takuru apparently had enough positive delusions involving Nono during the common route that he was able to make it to the Nono vs Serika duel in time to save Nono this time! WHOOOOO GO TAKURU YOU'RE SO MUCH MORE MANLY A PROTAGONIST THAT TAKUMI EVER WAS!!@# NGL I lowkey wanted this route to involve Sakuma more and have Nono learn the truth about his fakeness and confront him about it and then maybe he would see the light and realize that he had a wonderful thing going on with his family and change his ways, but l0lnope Serika offscreens him moments after the above encounter ggez. With Sakuma dead, Nono steps up evermore as the affectionate eldest sister worrying about where the family would live now and even contemplating quitting school to go work so they could pay for living expenses. God Nono is such a great character. The surviving members of Aoba Clinic: Takuru, Nono, Yuto and Uki then move to a run down dinghy apartment (right next to the cold scientist Mio Kunosato, much to Nono's disappointment). Takuru begins calling Nono by her first name again after a heart to heart session. They lie low and avoid going to school for a while out of fear of Serika, but eventually Hinae and Hana track them down and begin regularly visiting under the guise of newspaper club room activities. Desperate lovesick loserboy Kawahara Masashi (who was part of Nono - Senri - Kawahara childhood friendship) eventually tracks Nono down as well and goes on a spitballing "your family isn't truly your family, Senri wasn't your best friend, Takuru is a nobody, I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO UNDERSTANDS YOU, THE ONLY ONE WHO LOVES YOU!" like a dumbass in front of the household before finally getting shoo'ed away. This unfortunately causes the group to casually inquire about Senri to Nono, who responds rather awkwardly, causing Hinae to pick up that she's lying about something. Takuru attempts multiple times to find out what and why exactly Nono is lying, but she continues to dodge much to his frustration especially due to the family's 'no secret's' policy. And so the big reveal, courtesy of Serika's mind reading powers? Nono Kurusu- the real Nono Kurusu- died 6 years ago from the Shibuya Earthquake. Senri Minamisawa, a girl who had nothing who looked up to Nono and wanted to become her, awakened the power to shapeshift. She took on Nono's appearance to the exact, and in the heat of the moment burned Nono's body and claimed the body to be that of Senri's. Senri, looking exactly like Nono, would live on as Nono Kurusu. Now I didn't find that lie- that "Nono" was actually Senri- to be all that bad. Cuz I knew her feelings all this time were indeed genuine. Naturally we need drama though and so Takuru would blow up in her face about being a liar and a fake and call her out on what other potential things she could be lying about (which is totally valid). (Luckily in the true route, the writers gloss over this and Takuru simply goes "idiot, you should've told me sooner" to the Nono = Senri reveal). Btw, sucks to be Kawahara. The real Nono is long dead so he's been chasing SenriNono all this time, all while having already loudly claiming his hatred for Senri in his earlier outburst. Talk about awkward. Takuru would go on a heroic BSOD and find life to be pointless at this point, so Serika appears to grant him his wish of ending his life. Nono, having resolved herself to no longer live a fake life and instead be true to herself, appears as her original Senri self and vows to protect her little brother at all costs. This touches Takuru deeply and so he is able to finally forgive her. Serika, staying true to her purpose of satisfying Takuru's desires, knows she has no place in their future and so she makes one last valiant stand as the big bad: It's a very touching route. Nono- no, Senri- was a girl who started out with nothing but a best friend whom she looked up to dearly and dreamed of becoming. She eventually did get her wish out of some twisted fate and became Nono Kurusu, but to be fair everything she built up for herself from that point on- her family at Aoba Clinic, her position as student council president and reputation among classmates as the "Empress"- was the result of her own efforts. Admittedly a part of me was sad at the fact that Nono Kurusu is dead, and it did feel weird to have Senri Minamisawa be the true identity of the best girl I fawned over this entire VN. But alas,  True Route  Hide contents You just need a couple screenies and 'nuff said:  Like holy f*ck I know they explicitly said in the very beginning of the VN that Chaos;Child Syndrome was a psychogenetical schizophrenia disorder or whatever that resulted from the Shibuya Earthquake and that the patients didn't realize they had a disorder but man this was by far one of the biggest mindblows I've ever gotten from a VN lol. Let me repost the normal looking screeny of the one above because goddamn I never knew you could make Nono look bad LOL Ahhh... much better... Not much else to say. Takuru takes the fall as the mastermind behind the New Generation Madness Killings and is locked up, but not before succeeding in becoming the first patient to break out of Chaos;Child syndrome and thus allowing Mio to develop a cure for the rest of the patients, and atoning for Serika by real booting her to become a regular normal girl and living a normal life. No problems with this ending.    Overall: 8.5/10. Legit did not think I would like this sci-fi adv VN as much due to how much I despised Chaos;Head. It was good enough that I actually want to reread Chaos;Head so I can catch up on all the story beats and whatnot, but ahh nvm. Will look forward to reading Robotics;Notes + DaSH when they do come out to EN on the Switch later this year. I'll watch the 6.5/10 MAL rated anime of Chaos;Child real quick because I like to see things animated even though they'll probably butcher it so bad since only lol12episodes for a 30-50+ hr VN.  Worst ending. Your waifu's will now get other husbandos. We all like different type of endings Quote
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