Shaun Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 42 minutes ago, Pabloc said: So far, we are planning to make the patch for the original JP version (since it will small and easy to distribute). Whether we make patches for any other versions or not depends on our hacker. Personally, I'd prefer not make any patches for Steam version - I don't feel like supporting GabeN in any way. Most users will have gotten the all-ages version even without Steam, I doubt they would torrent the JP version since most can't read Japanese. Whatever works though, I currently have the Steam version and non-Steam version although both are the same anyways. I wouldn't mind having to torrent the JP version though.
littleshogun Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 Just want to share this for a long time, for Konosora here I did choose to torrenting Japanese version because I tried restoration patch here and well, it's buggy in CG Gallery (You couldn't see some CG there, but once again it's Moenovel fault for cutting the H-Scenes and of course decreasing the CG. Sorry to said it here). And for last word, good luck with the project here.
tachikoma01 Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 I'm really looking forward to this patch. Could you give us a brief status update please? Thanks a lot for doing this.
Shaun Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 On 6/16/2016 at 0:03 PM, littleshogun said: Just want to share this for a long time, for Konosora here I did choose to torrenting Japanese version because I tried restoration patch here and well, it's buggy in CG Gallery (You couldn't see some CG there, but once again it's Moenovel fault for cutting the H-Scenes and of course decreasing the CG. Sorry to said it here). And for last word, good luck with the project here. That's a well known issue with the partial restoration patch and it is something they mentioned already on the thread related to it. The only issue I can see with them using the JP version is the fact it isn't really available via torrent as most torrents of it are dead unless someone is able to fix that.
hinagiku Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 Just started Ageha route, and i simply couldn't continue it. It's really bad and i wasn't understanding anything. In Kotori's route i didn't have any problem (but maybe there's mistakes there too). I would love this patch, i doesn't have to be perfect, just need to be able to follow the story. Where can i see the work progress. Thanks
Mkilbride Posted July 23, 2016 Posted July 23, 2016 Is it as bad as the original Edelweiss patch? That thing is LEGENDARY!
Pabloc Posted July 24, 2016 Posted July 24, 2016 On 23.07.2016 at 2:06 PM, Mkilbride said: Is it as bad as the original Edelweiss patch? That thing is LEGENDARY! I have only seen little bits from the original Edelwess patch, and yeah, it was awful. But it didn't seem like a pure gibberish, while Ageha's route definitely reaches that level quite often, so... As for progress, I'm on vacation right now and I don't have my % counts at hand, but if I remember everything right, Ageha's route is somewhere around 80%.
Mkilbride Posted July 24, 2016 Posted July 24, 2016 I actually played through the original Edelweiss patch. I dunno if it was funnier because of how bad it was translated, or just the VN itself was funny. I remember everyone saying that MangaGamer had no future. But good to see this is alive.
メルP Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 Fun thing is what RusAnon said about ETA in 1st post. He forgot to mention YEAR. I believe it has to be 2017!
XReaper Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 8 hours ago, メルP said: Fun thing is what RusAnon said about ETA in 1st post. He forgot to mention YEAR. I believe it has to be 2017! this thread was orginally started for the creation of kono oozora´s restoration patch, which got finished a good while ago. everything pabloc (&compagnions) does is a whole re-translation of said title, basically a new project, whilst continue using the old thread for the sake of not having to make zillions that ultimately lead to the same goal.
メルP Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 31 minutes ago, XReaper said: this thread was orginally started for the creation of kono oozora´s restoration patch, which got finished a good while ago. everything pabloc (&compagnions) does is a whole re-translation of said title, basically a new project, whilst continue using the old thread for the sake of not having to make zillions that ultimately lead to the same goal. lol, I know all that. ETA given in 1st post is exactly for that next goal - TLC that later turned into re-translation.
Fujimoto Takashi Posted August 9, 2016 Posted August 9, 2016 Well, I just recently picked up this VN again, and apparently it has all sorts of problems, not just censorship from cutting H-scenes, which was easily solved by the restoration patch, but bad translation and some random glitches/bugs, like not being able to access my goddamn CG gallery! Speaking of which, would that be something you guys could fix? I have yet to see this supposed Engrish that plagues it, maybe its because I have yet to start a route, which makes me curious, does Kotori's route suffer from this aswell? She's the only girl I'm interested in, I rather not deal with awful translation, but if it isnt that bad, then I might aswell keep reading. Best of luck with the project!
Shaun Posted August 9, 2016 Posted August 9, 2016 8 hours ago, Fujimoto Takashi said: Well, I just recently picked up this VN again, and apparently it has all sorts of problems, not just censorship from cutting H-scenes, which was easily solved by the restoration patch, but bad translation and some random glitches/bugs, like not being able to access my goddamn CG gallery! Speaking of which, would that be something you guys could fix? I have yet to see this supposed Engrish that plagues it, maybe its because I have yet to start a route, which makes me curious, does Kotori's route suffer from this aswell? She's the only girl I'm interested in, I rather not deal with awful translation, but if it isnt that bad, then I might aswell keep reading. Best of luck with the project! The issue with the CG Gallery is caused by the restoration patch which is mentioned in the patch notes for it, the CG Gallery works fine without the restoration patch. They plan on requiring the JP version when step 2 of the translation project is finished so you won't be able to use it on Steam or non-Steam versions (any all-ages version) of the visual novel.
garine Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 On 15. 7. 2016 at 11:22 PM, Shaun said: That's a well known issue with the partial restoration patch and it is something they mentioned already on the thread related to it. The only issue I can see with them using the JP version is the fact it isn't really available via torrent as most torrents of it are dead unless someone is able to fix that. Not sure but I think you didn't check any respectable torrent site like I don't know... 18+ version of nyaa? Also you need to search for it with it's original Japanese title.
Shaun Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 40 minutes ago, garine said: Not sure but I think you didn't check any respectable torrent site like I don't know... 18+ version of nyaa? Also you need to search for it with it's original Japanese title. I checked Nyaa and all of their torrents for it are dead or have very little seeders. Yes I used the original Japanese Title.
Shaun Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Zakamutt said: (This will probably all get deleted soon) First of all, I'm assuming you're using Sukebei. Second, I don't see how 11 seeders is low for a vn - in the end, you only really need one after all That is actually false, less seeders equals slower downloads no matter how big the file is, you normally want 20+ seeders for any file while 10 and under will make it really slow. 6 seeders is what it has not 11 and it's going to take about 2 hours to finish. 1 seeder will take a download several hours to 1-2 days to finish.
Zakamutt Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 At my glorious 1.2 MB/s, several hours is the norm anyway. I'm not sure why it taking a day is such a huge problem for you, lol - there are lots and lots of vn and animu torrents that only have like 10 seeders. As an example, looking at the excellent comedy series Daily Lives of High School Boys, not a single ep of the nyaa recommended sage release (nor any other) has even 10 seeders. You might counter that that's a 2012 anime so of course it'd not have much, but konosora was also released in 2012. To top it all off, the full retranslation patch might not even be released this year, so you kind of have a lot of time. As a nitpick your seeder theory is technically wrong, what really matters is the speed of whoever is on the other end. If the torrent has literally 1 seed but they have a high upload speed, you could get it really fast. Realistic? maybe not
Shaun Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Zakamutt said: At my glorious 1.2 MB/s, several hours is the norm anyway. I'm not sure why it taking a day is such a huge problem for you, lol - there are lots and lots of vn and animu torrents that only have like 10 seeders. As an example, looking at the excellent comedy series Daily Lives of High School Boys, not a single ep of the nyaa recommended sage release (nor any other) has even 10 seeders. You might counter that that's a 2012 anime so of course it'd not have much, but konosora was also released in 2012. To top it all off, the full retranslation patch might not even be released this year, so you kind of have a lot of time. As a nitpick your seeder theory is technically wrong, what really matters is the speed of whoever is on the other end. If the torrent has literally 1 seed but they have a high upload speed, you could get it really fast. Realistic? maybe not My download peak is 8.5MBps and a 4GB file shouldn't take over 2 hours (that will take under half an hour at that rate), it will if the amount of seeders is low, you really don't know what you're talking about and I never have a problem downloading other files that normally have 30+ seeders. The amount of seeders does matter. Not everyone has shitty internet like you, I'm on 60MBps cable ISP. I ended up having to stop the download because the speed is stupid slow with just 3 seeders.
Kabu Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Shaun said: My download peak is 8.5MBps and a 4GB file shouldn't take over 2 hours (that will take under half an hour at that rate), it will if the amount of seeders is low, you really don't know what you're talking about and I never have a problem downloading other files that normally have 30+ seeders. The amount of seeders does matter. Not everyone has shitty internet like you, I'm on 60MBps cable ISP. I ended up having to stop the download because the speed is stupid slow with just 3 seeders. I've personally never had a problem with a low amount of seeds. Even with one or two seeds my downloads never really take more than a few hours soooo it just sounds like you're just impatient.
Zakamutt Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 >you don't know what you're talking about Of course I do, I've actually seeded a single torrent to a single person at like 5 MB/s back when my ISP hadn't "upgraded" us to fiber. I'm not sure if you get the word technically; of course this is somewhat unlikely, as it requires there to be a low enough amount of peers (or none but you) and enough seeders that can allocate high amounts of bandwidth to you. As for the actual point of my post, please see Kabu's. Is there a real life reason as to why you can't download for long? Torrent clients save your download progress, so you might be able to download it in several goes if that's the problem. In the end, you're not getting konosora's jp version any other way unless someone either uploads it to a DDL service that will actually let you download at 6.5MB/s or runs some kind of FTP that will let you do the same. Both seem pretty unlikely to me, though if you want to try your luck and ask for someone to actually do that, you might want to do so more nicely. It's also worth mentioning that when the new patch actually does get released, you'll probably see an uptick in seeders for a while.
garine Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 Also he doesn't seem to know that distance between seeder and leecher plays a major role. Him saying speed depends on number of seeders is completely wrong. Btw the torrent we were talking about is beign seeded from seedbox with 10Gbps upload which is situated in Netherlands. And since nobody asked much relevant to this translation....how is it going Pabloc?
ruman Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 i just downloaded the game from there the one with 8 seeders in under 2 hours so id say it is pretty fast for the amount of seeds
Anais Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 How's this patch going now? I've not had chance to read through the thread since my last post. Just checking that the project is still alive!
Pabloc Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 On 1.09.2016 at 1:24 PM, Shaun said: 1 seeder will take a download several hours to 1-2 days to finish. Several hours? Wow, that's soooo terrible. If you're sick of slow torrents, I recommend this source: link As for progress, due to vacation, good weather and stuff, there's not much to report really - I only did a few bits of Ageha's route lately, but it's almost done (there's only about 10% left to TL). garine, Fred the Barber, Nier and 1 other 4
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