Koiken Otome Revive TL Project

[Zakamutt]

>22 keep, 9 remove atm

fukken weebs

[Mr Poltroon]

You're asking on Fuwanovel. I don't quite know what you were expecting.

After all, all here are aware of what they are and their meanings, and I must admit it's quite comforting to read what you hear.
Then there's also the issue of consistency, if you care about that.

[Fiddle]

I concur with Tiag; we can yield a proper result only with a more randomized, demographically diverse method of polling. For some reason I have an old phonebook from West Virginia, so I can mass-call potential readers from there and compile their opinions.

[Benji Price]

Sorry for my ignorance but, how'd you translate the -kun, -san, -senpai expressions ?? 

 

[Mr Poltroon]

16 hours ago, Benji Price said:

Sorry for my ignorance but, how'd you translate the -kun, -san, -senpai expressions ?? 

 

Mishter, mish and superior, obviously.

....Nah, it's much, more likely they'd just come to suffer from non-existence syndrome.

[Dergonu]

6 hours ago, Benji Price said:

Sorry for my ignorance but, how'd you translate the -kun, -san, -senpai expressions ??

Like Poltroon said, you wouldn't really translate these much at all.

Personally I would consider what the relationship between the characters are based on the honorific and try to insert some of the intent behind the honorific in the character's line, if at all possible. Beyond that, there isn't much you can do about the standard honorifics and titles like the ones mentioned in terms of translation.

[littleshogun]

Well, whichever goes I guess, although I slightly favor toward honorific though (But if you interested with no honorific go ahead though).

[Fiddle]

4 hours ago, Dergonu said:

Like Poltroon said, you wouldn't really translate these much at all.

An argument that applies specifically to visual novels, and the reason for which I generally fall on the pro-honorific side in the translation of visual novels, is that characters sometimes have a line in which the only thing they say or nearly the only thing they say is the name of another character, and I feel like it would cause a reader to question his/her sanity upon explicitly hearing "Tanaka-san" but reading "Kyousuke."

[Benji Price]

3 hours ago, littleshogun said:

Well, whichever goes I guess, although I slightly favor toward honorific though (But if you interested with no honorific go ahead though).

Same opinion here, I think honorifics help interpreting a couple things better that only with the name/last name wouldn't be so clear. And as Fiddle said, the difference between what you hear and what you read. But if your style is to adapt those expression too, then you should go on with it. In worst of cases, if the readers opinion after releasing a partial patch is not good then you can always change it back, it's no such big deal either.  

[Dergonu]

2 hours ago, Fiddle said:

An argument that applies specifically to visual novels, and the reason for which I generally fall on the pro-honorific side in the translation of visual novels, is that characters sometimes have a line in which the only thing they say or nearly the only thing they say is the name of another character, and I feel like it would cause a reader to question his/her sanity upon explicitly hearing "Tanaka-san" but reading "Kyousuke."

Another fun one is when the writer makes a huge deal out of the honorifics in the script, like when characters change the honorific they use for each other, makes jokes using the honorifics and so on. Ah, the joys of translating.

[Testarossa]

I believe the best would be doing what you want to do, since you are doing us all a favor translating this by yourself.

There are some specific cases where the honorifics have a great impact in the relationship of characters, and removing them would simply remove the entire meaning of what the series was building (An adaptation of the honorifics could resolve this, though), but it's not the case with Koiken Otome as far as I remember, so removing them wouldn't hurt in any way the story or characters relationships, it's not important in any way so you should keep with what you believe is better suited with your translating style. 

[FenriRising]

20 hours ago, Testarossa said:

I believe the best would be doing what you want to do, since you are doing us all a favor translating this by yourself.

There are some specific cases where the honorifics have a great impact in the relationship of characters, and removing them would simply remove the entire meaning of what the series was building (An adaptation of the honorifics could resolve this, though), but it's not the case with Koiken Otome as far as I remember, so removing them wouldn't hurt in any way the story or characters relationships, it's not important in any way so you should keep with what you believe is better suited with your translating style. 

A small point of it was made early on when Yasukuni was trying to figure out how to refer to Seiichi casually, so I wouldn't put it past the authors to put it in again in Revive. Probably not a huge deal, but it could be awkward to work past if adapted out. 

[Testarossa]

20 hours ago, FenriRising said:

A small point of it was made early on when Yasukuni was trying to figure out how to refer to Seiichi casually, so I wouldn't put it past the authors to put it in again in Revive. Probably not a huge deal, but it could be awkward to work past if adapted out. 

True, you're right. It's been a while since I read Revive so I can be forgetting, but I think it's safe in this aspect for the most part, if any scene like this appears I'll believe in Dergonu's translation choice (If he ever decides to translate everything). It's a worst situation when the character is called by "senpai" or "sama", in this case things get a bit more delicated (There was one time I bought a manga where in the translation they made the MCs call a character like "Veteran *insert the name of the character*", it was really awkward in that context ), but as far as I know it doesn't happen in Revive.

[exaccuss]

[SeiZui]

I just finished the game , I'd love to play it again w/ english trans and all  may you be blessed w/ maximum fire determination!!

[Dergonu]

Just a small bump to say that things are going well. I have done about 900 lines or so on Minato's route, which equals close to 20% on her route, and 3% overall.

My current TLing speed is slowed down a bit by university work. My classes ends in 2 weeks, so after that it should speed up.

You can always check out the progress here to keep up to date with the current %.

[ScaleMan]

On ‎29‎/‎04‎/‎2017 at 10:49 PM, Dergonu said:

Just a small bump to say that things are going well. I have done about 900 lines or so on Minato's route, which equals close to 20% on her route, and 3% overall.

My current TLing speed is slowed down a bit by university work. My classes ends in 2 weeks, so after that it should speed up.

You can always check out the progress here to keep up to date with the current %.

Keep up the good work and thanks for translating the game

[br4zil]

Started Koiken Otome 4 days ago, awesome to hear a veteran member is taking up the task of translating the fandisc!.

Voted pro-honorifics too!

As a non-english native, i am used to see and use foreign words everywhere and the honorifics are something that seemly even casual anime watchers "get" even with casual viewing.

My ex-girlfriend knew all the usual japanese honorifics and she wasnt even close to being a "weeb" or even into japanese entertaiment media. But one Rurouni Kenshin/Samurai X + Sakura Card Captor later and she knew what -kun,-chan,-san, etc were.

But then again, brazil is (suprisingly) the place with most japanese people (and culture) outside japan itself. So my info might be bias

Edited May 13, 2017 by br4zil

[Dergonu]

Just a heads up that there won't be much TL progress this week at all. My final exam is next Tuesday, so I'm busy studying for that. Once the exam is over, TL progress should speed up.

On a side note, I have found an editor for the project, and he will start editing sometime in the near future. So, that's neat.

[kiabee21]

Oh wow , I'm so excited , I loved the Prequel it's amazing.

[Dergonu]

Ehe, I was planning on getting a good chunk of TLing done this week, but then Chrono Box happened, and it ended up completely taking up all my free time. But, I have finished reading it now, so I'll get back on track with the TLing on Monday! Now that my exams are over, the % should move faster than before. Hopefully.

[MFrost]

Cool, how was Chrono Box anyways? it's on my queue but it looked good. I like the mysterious transfer student girl (I bet she kills the protag or something of the sort)

[Dergonu]

17 minutes ago, MFrost said:

Cool, how was Chrono Box anyways? it's on my queue but it looked good. I like the mysterious transfer student girl (I bet she kills the protag or something of the sort)

It was really good. It's a mystery/ horror type game. I don't want to say much about the plot/ setting, as it's a part of the experience to find that out yourself tbh. But yeah, it was fantastic. Really hit me in the feels.

[br4zil]

News?

[Dergonu]

7 hours ago, br4zil said:

News?

Things are going well. Got an editor onboard, who will start editing soon. We are in the middle of getting him set up with the tools etc at the moment.

 

Progress wise, things aren't moving super fast, but I make sure there is at least some form of progress every week.

I was planning to get a lot more TLing done during my vacation, but I just really needed some personal time to relax and recover from a long year at uni during these first few weeks.
My vacation is long, so I have plenty of time to get more TLing done in the coming months. The progress will hopefully speed up soon.