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It's out folks ahhhh ( ~ ▽ ~) Time to wander Heavenly Host for hours getting frustrated and walking in circles aka lost!@# Discuss away, and remember to use spoiler tags when necessary~ Misc: Pardon the shatty photo

Here's a more decentralized (and lengthier) version of the TPP so you can clearly comprehend the scope of the issue and how your animu is the least of your concerns. (most of this are x-posts from reddit and other sources) By the way, this deal has already been agreed upon during a summit by all nations, including Japan, all that's left is for it to be agreed upon internally. This is when you really should push back against it. What is the TPP? The Trans-Pacific Partnership is a multi-layered deal whose particulars have just been agreed upon by the twelve participating countries. Its stated purpose is to reduce tariffs - taxes on bringing your goods into a country or sending them out - and therefore encourage industry by making it cheaper for importers and exporters to conduct business between these countries. Its other stated goal is to create a set of easy rules that businesses can live by when dealing between these countries. The TPP is far more complex than that, however. Its subtextual function is to serve as a foundation from which to spread that set of easy rules to other Asian nations, with an eye to preventing China from setting standards among these countries first. The Obama administration is concerned that it's either "us or them" and that a Chinese-led trade agreement would set rules that American businesses would find problematic. How does it affect you if you're in one of these countries? A deal like the TPP involves identifying which tariffs affect market access and competition by creating a market that favors some producers over others instead of letting price, quality and consumer preference decide. For instance, it is very expensive to bring milk in to Canada, so even if you could sell your milk at a lower price, you will have to account for the cost of the tariffs, which will make your milk uncompetitive on the Canadian market. New Zealand and the US both want to see Canadian dairy tariffs lowered so that their milk producers can sell on the Canadian market more easily. • When the market can decide and the barriers are down, we expect to see open markets offering more products/services than could previously have been made available. Prices should go down for certain products due to increased competition. • A deal with as many players as the TPP rarely functions on one-to-one trades; instead, each party has a list of things that they want and needs to go shopping around to find ways to get their positions filled - a chain of deals wherein, for instance, Japan pressures Canada on the milk issue so that they can in turn see motion on their own priority, such as car parts. This is why the negotiations have taken so long. • The TPP wants to standardize rules for trade among its participants, which cover a lot more than just tariffs and quotas. Other issues that have to be considered and negotiated include intellectual property rights and protections; rules regarding patents; environmental and labor regulations. In short, it tries to set standards on how business is conducted, both internationally and at home. It does this because uneven practices can result in uncompetitive market access. • This standardization is hoped to improve labor and environmental laws across the board, as the need to conform forces countries that have been lagging behind in their standards to catch up with the rest of the group. By setting rules that apply equally to the US as to Malaysia, it is hoped that people will be better off and enjoy more protections in their working environment. • To that end, the TPP will also have a process in place for what happens when someone breaks the rules - a tribunalwhich will decide based on terms laid out by the TPP instead of following the laws of any one government. This helps ensure that foreign companies are treated fairly and can conduct business under the same standards and with the same opportunities. Tl;dr the TPP is out to make business between these 12 countries more fair, predictable and even. It should provide more choice in goods and services and more bang for your buck, while making labor standards improve for people outside of North America who may be operating under less protections than a Canadian or American enjoys. What are the concerns? • The TPP has been negotiated in heavy secrecy. While it's easy to see why keeping such a huge deal secret from the public is problematic, it is also reasonable for governments to work on negotiations and come to terms before letting elected officials decide if the end result is in the public interest. It lets others at the bargaining table know that what is said there won't be changed by a public opinion poll two days later, and it has been argued that such secrecy is therefore necessary to make these meetings work at all. • The TPP has a scope that concerns many parties as it addresses trade and industry regulations on a 21st century scope - everything from upcoming cancer drugs to internet regulations to, yes, a cup of milk in Canada is all being covered by the same negotiation. It is a reasonable concern to say that the number of issues being covered in the same deal will make it hard for the public to reasonably read, understand and decide on. • The removal of tariffs provides new foreign opportunities for business, but it also means that industries which rely on a protected domestic market will become exposed. It is not unreasonable to suggest that any given country is trading away the success of industry A for success in industry B, which, if all things are equal, should come down to a zero-sum game. Economics does not, of course, work like that, but it's still a fair question to examine. • While supporters of the TPP say that it will encourage countries to improve their standards and reform, those elements are at their strongest during the negotiation - and the heat on issues such as human trafficking and human rights abuses have been sidelined as pressure to secure a deal of any kind has mounted on major nations facing upcoming elections. What should have been an opportunity to engage and demand reform as a condition of involvement in such a major global trade deal has been left by the wayside, a casualty of ambition. What are the biggest issues? • While the TPP has been kept secret from the public, large corporate interests have had a seat at the table throughout the process. These businesses have an obligation to make as much money as possible for their shareholders. This means that a great many of the deals that form the basis of the TPP have been negotiated with an eye to advantaging those businesses, potentially at the expense of the average citizen. • "Free trade" as the TPP proposes is nothing new - globalization has already happened, and we are all the beneficiaries. What this deal will offer is not for the average citizen, who might see a few price differences on common products - it is for the large corporate interests who will have more freedom to move jobs and production to areas where it is cheaper to conduct business. • There should be no such areas within the TPP zone, but part of the negotiation involves exceptions in place specifically to help these companies. The consistent standards that the TPP desires to set? Corporations would like to see those standards lowered - it is in their best interest to have access to a labor, property and capital market where they pay the least amount of money to conduct their business. • Tariffs exist in part to protect domestic industry - jobs - from the vagaries of a global market. If cheaper US milk is sold in Canada, Canadian milk producers will have to choose whether to sell their own products more cheaply or else close down and go out of business. If it is not possible for these farmers to sell at a lower price and still remain profitable, then that choice is not a choice at all. • The TPP's intellectual property provisions, which have been the subject of several leaks, are harsher than existing law, a product (again) of corporate involvement in the deal. They aim to crack down on several ways people use intellectual property, fairly and otherwise, and their scope means there is significant possibility for abuse and harrassment. • More damagingly, the TPP applies those laws to drugs with an eye to preventing cheaper medicine from being available on the market - products that by rights should be subject to competition as their prices are heavily inflated beyond the cost of production. • The TPP will offer a method by which companies can attack laws that affect them, suing governments through a tribunal for such offenses as trying to protect youth from cigarette marketing images, trying to protect the environment from dangerous industrial contaminants, or even refusing to pass laws removing or suppressing regulations where beneficial to corporate activity. These are all issues that already happen under various trade deals. • We, the public, and our elected representatives will not have a great deal of time or means to push back against this trade deal if we dislike it. The text will only be released when absolutely necessary (a period of 60 days in the US) and steps have already been taken to ensure that elected officials cannot muck about with the deal. While this is logical (it would not be fair to negotiate terms and then change them back at home without discussing it), it does mean that instead of being able to debate and dissect we're committed to an all-or-nothing deal. What changes are being made to copyright law exactly? The leaked U.S. IP chapter includes many detailed requirements that are more restrictive than current international standards, and would require significant changes to other countries’ copyright laws. These include obligations for countries to: Expand Copyright Terms: Create copyright terms well beyond the internationally agreed period in the 1994 Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights (TRIPS). The TPP could extend copyright term protections from life of the author + 50 years, to Life + 70 years for works created by individuals, and either 95 years after publication or 120 years after creation for corporate owned works (such as Mickey Mouse).Escalate Protections for DRM (aka Digital Locks): It will compel signatory nations to enact laws banning circumvention of digital locks (technological protection measures or TPMs) that mirror the DMCA and treat violation of the TPM provisions as a separate offense even when no copyright infringement is involved. This would require countries like New Zealand to completely rewrite its innovative 2008 copyright law, as well as override Australia’s carefully-crafted 2007 TPM regime exclusions for region-coding on movies on DVDs, video games, and players, and for embedded software in devices that restrict access to goods and services for the device—a thoughtful effort by Australian policy makers to avoid the pitfalls experienced with the US digital locks provisions. In the U.S., business competitors have used the DMCA to try to block printer cartridge refill services, competing garage door openers, and to lock mobile phones to particular network providers.Create New Threats for Journalists and Whistleblowers:Dangerously vague text on the misuse of trade secrets, which could be used to enact harsh criminal punishments against anyone who reveals or even accesses information through a "computer system" that is allegedly confidential.Enact a "Three-Step Test" Language That Puts Restrictions on Fair Use: The U.S. Trade Representative (USTR) is putting fair use at risk with restrictive language in the TPP's IP chapter. U.S. and Australia have proposed very restrictive text, while other countries such as Chile, New Zealand, and Malaysia, have proposed more flexible, user-friendly terms.Place Greater Liability on Internet Intermediaries: The TPP would force the adoption of the U.S. DMCA Internet intermediaries copyright safe harbor regime in its entirety. For example, this would require Chile to rewrite its forward-looking 2010 copyright law that currently establishes a judicial notice-and-takedown regime, which provides greater protection to Internet users’ expression and privacy than the DMCA.Adopt Heavy Criminal Sanctions: Adopt criminal sanctions for copyright infringement that is done without a commercial motivation. Users could be jailed or hit with debilitating fines over file sharing, and may have their property or domains seized even without a formal complaint from the copyright holder.Tl;dr countries would have to abandon any efforts to learn from the mistakes of the United States and its experience with the DMCA over the last 16 years, and adopt many of the most controversial aspects of U.S. copyright law in their entirety. At the same time, the TPP's IP chapter does not export the limitations and exceptions in the U.S. copyright regime like fair use, which have enabled freedom of expression and technological innovation to flourish in the United States. It includes only a placeholder for exceptions and limitations. This raises serious concerns about other countries’ sovereignty and the ability of national governments to set laws and policies to meet their domestic priorities. I'm not in any of these 12 countries, should I care? The TPP will affect countries beyond the 12 that are currently involved in negotiations. Like ACTA, the TPP Agreement is a plurilateral agreement that will be used to create new heightened global IP enforcement norms. Countries that are not parties to the negotiation will likely be asked to accede to the TPP as a condition of bilateral trade agreements with the U.S. and other TPP members, or evaluated against the TPP's copyright enforcement standards in the USTR's annual Special 301 process. This is terrible, what can I do? If you're in any of the participating nations, the first thing you can do is contact your local lawmakers and ask to speak out against this agreement. If you're in the US, on top of talking to your local lawmakers you can also join the EFF's rally against the TPP in Washington DC on November 14th through November 18th. If you're in Canada, you can use the Council of Canadians' tool to send a message to your international trade minister and members of the parliamentary trade committee to release the secret TPP text and negotiate the deal with proper public input. If you're in Australia, you can use GetUp!'s action too tocontact your senator and call on them to oppose the agreement in the Senate. If you're in Chile, you can join the ONG Derechos Digitales campaign against the TPP! If you're in Peru, spread the word as much as possible and contact organizations that are already against this. If you're in Japan, you can read information in the Stop TPP!! website.

I have an idea of a few genres, including some of the more cliche ones, but not really of the slice of life, comedy/romance, or key style novels. While there's not enough VN's that you'll find mountains of anything you are looking for, there is a lot of different VN's out there. Strat-gameplay is a genre, so is cross-dressing (ok some of these are types, not categories), JPRG, Majikoi-style/Grisaia comedy, Chuunibyou, peaceful slice of life into drama, drama/supernatural, more mature romance, moe-quasi-medival, agents vs agent, utsuge, heavily stylized *katahane, wonderful world, yume miru kusuri*, modern-day/cybertech action, not to meaning the bunch of unique story/vision-driven works there are that are easier to put under their own heading. I've at least touched about 75 VN's, finished 10 in English, 15 in Japanese (only like 25 in total). Have about 80 in my serious wish list. I follow what more avid readers talk about and review. Odds are if it's a non-gameplay, story-focused VN, non-obscure title, I've probably seen it at least once while looking vndb.

Last reply b4 I disappear again, My Vita's all pimped out Nepified (◠ω◠✿) 1

pls remember guest reviews

So i went to pick up my Corpse Party Blood Drive preorder from my local Gamestop 30 minutes before the store closed today And ran into 3 other guys also picking up their preorder And we were like O WOW LALALA GLHF DONT DIE

For those of you who don't know, TPP stands for Trans-Pacific Partnership, and it's basically a big "fuck you" to just about every regular citizen in every country that it will apply to. We don't know all the details yet, but part of it was leaked to Wikileaks, and there are some pretty concerning things in here. First off, you'll probably want to stop pirating if this does go through, since companies will be able to force your ISP to give them information on people who pirate their work (something that doesn't happen very often, if at all currently, since it's actually pretty hard to trigger the three warning flags and have you get fined). The average citizen can get fined insane amounts of money, and even face jail time. Now I don't think this will mean a shit ton of people are going to get rekt with charges or anything, since not only is suing someone really expensive, but incarceration fees are insanely high as well. It just wouldn't be worth it to them. Another pretty concerning thing, maybe even more concerning given that most of us are anime/manga fans, is that you can get charged with a criminal offense for doing fansubs, making doujins, making AMV's, and even cosplaying. And the copyright holder doesn't even have to file a complaint, you will just get charged regardless if you are caught, even if the copyright holder doesn't care about it. Here is an article on that whole shabang: http://goboiano.com/original/3219-anime-and-cosplay-fans-could-become-criminals-with-new-international-trade-agreement There is also something in the TPP that could raise health care and medicine prices, to the point where there might be a considerable amount of casualties just because people won't be able to afford the healthcare and medicine they need. Obviously there is a lot more to it, and we won't know all the information for about another month, but it isn't looking good at all. Anyways, I just wanted to spread the word about this ludicrous agreement, in hopes that more people will be vocal about it getting turned down. What do you guys think about this? Do you think it will go through? Sorry for the wall of text

>It's safe to say just about everyone here appreciates 2D women Nope, 2D can raise the flag for me, but I need 3D to pass the finish line. The music is terrible btw, even for someone who can fap to 2D that will ruin it. Since we have a shameless thread already who can recommend me an onahole? One I can order off amazon with prime delievery ideally. (also I'm at uni so discreteness is imperitive). This is probably since people don't fap to a set rythmm, it'd be like trying to weight lift in staggered timed motions, you'd end up with a stiff muscle and no gains.

Finished Koiriso yesterday it was quite good in my opinion. the characters were really nice, I liked them all (Nagisa as my favorite)! But now it's time for a break with VNn in order to play a little heart of stones

as for me, though already been interested in otaku-culture agood while before, i first started reading eroge and the derivates of theirs around ~´97/´98 on sega saturn (doukyuusei), mostly as a means to distract myself from the lonelyless i felt back then, which ironically hastened the process of turning me in into a hopeless social outcast the more i immersed myself into the medium as awhole, almost breaking up contact with all of my friends, family members and other people once dear to me and basically kept on living my (shitty but enteraining) life, that consisted(s) only of earning money for allowing me to stay in my imaginary 2d wonderland. in terms of numbers, i lost the overview at some point, but the vndb list of mine is pretty much inaccurate, since i have not rated all of the ones i read yet, mostly nukige or those considered the worst and on the other hand numerousness never got finished by me btw. completed only a few routes that draw me in for various reasons and then stalled them infinitely. as for the content, i do prefer almost anything focused on interpersonal drama, twisted relationships (incl. netorare), excessive violence (both physically and mentally), realistic stories, authentic characters, prostitution, sexual slavery, horror, despair, betrayel, revenge, (dark) fantasy, chuunibyou, adventure, sci-fi, true love stories, conclusive plotlines and so on.

When i grow up i wanna become just like you ^^

welcome to the forum. And if you like this type of VNs i recomend clannad and litle busters, I have never seen, but my friends who played already say that is very good drama, so I recommend you. I had only watched the anime, and with them was already very strong scenes in the original imagine.

Ever17 is amazing, one of my favorite VNs out there. Have this OST instead for compensation: Heck, I'll also throw in this:

Welcome, have an OST:

Welcome~

No? Probably just lazy subbers. I'm watching it raw at the moment.

Wow....... I was doing so well until the end then the Chrono Cross victory theme started playing. Now my screen is all wet. Thanks nostalgia of classic RPGs.

Put aside Noble works for now. I got 2 routes left. I'll prbly go back to it again when I feel like playing a charage. But for now I've had enough. So I started playing Baldr sky zero 1 (bsz) instead. In many ways it's good as old baldr sky (bs). But I am missing a big overall great story bs had. I am hoping it will come to it later. As currently I am just getting to know more of the world slowly. Although there is nothing wrong with that. I will get bored if this continues forever.

Complain? Please. Fact is, it's an unpleasant community. The mods are abusive and ban with prejudice. I've had a 2 year old account permabanned without warning by a 15 year old mod for having a civilized argument with someone regarding hypocrisy. The ban message stated "signed up just to troll." Their toxic attitude towards piracy makes the forum less than helpful, as a single mention of even an illegitimate BIOS (which absolutely everyone other than the PCSX2 developers use, by the way) results in the deletion of your thread and no further support. I'm not saying it should be allowed to promote piracy on their forums, but the amount of hostility they display at the mere mention of it is sickening and hypocritical.

So, I decided not to go with Eien no Aselia and to play Semiramis no Tenbin instead. Not in the mood for a gameplay VN.

Yet another desperate attempt of the dinosaur lobbyists to maintain their crumbling status quo. This will actually never get through, at least not fully. And even if it does, the outrage it causes afterwards will force them to change it preety soon.

Official: Bokuten (yes, I'm the one lone bastard that is waiting for this), Clannad (No valid string, please make a ticket about it) and Seinarukana (get your ass moving Jast). Sadly it's getting harder and harder to keep the hype going for fan translations because many of them end up not seeing the light of day. Looks like Noble Works might actually be done soon though so that is something to look forward to.

happy birthday @TheFantasm

Have to idolise her after all. Thanks Nico for carrying my Smile team during score matches *throws salt to Nico lover*

The music really messed it up. Should have kept the original audio.

The person who wrote this will remain anonymous, but I hold no ill feelings against whomever said it. I also had no idea I was sarcastic until people on the forums started pointing it out. I knew I was at home, hadn't even noticed the transition onto the forums. Wtf this post was from a year ago, this thread was from a year ago, and Tiag figured out he was annoying and sarcastic a year ago. Time flies!@# While you can't stand being told off or disappointing people, the opposite thus must hold true then: you love being told on, and satisfying people. And Tiagofvarela, my good sir, you satisfy me. 'Fession: see above.

I'll take Arietta and Fal over Torta everytime.

I've recently finished Gosick and Working!!, and now I'm onto Ef: a Tale of Memories. With the current airing anime, well, I believe I god damn love One Punch Man. Compared to that, everything just seems to be worse, minus Ushio to Tora.

Disgusting and reasonably creepy. As expected of the internet!

お目当て in these cases, I believe, usually refers to a specific prostitute. Basically, "Do you have a prostitute in mind?" Either that, or seeing as the man follows it up with どこの店だ? he's asking Caprese which brothel he planned to 'relieve' himself at.

I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was... To fap to 'em is my real test, stamina is my cause... I will travel across the net, searching far and wide Each onahole will make me feel... The power that's insideeeeeeee~ ONAHOLE! (I know now what I must do.)

You do yoga?

The girl I love noticed me Uhhh.. I mean: Senpai noticed me? Yandere-chan noticed me!

Jesus Christ that translation blows. They couldn't get it to blow any harder even with an automatic blowing machine set on 'blow your lungs out'. I ran Translation Aggregator with the lines RusAnon pasted, and I'm getting a more complete picture from the unedited machine translation, so good job whoever did those lines. Kudos to RusAnon for pasting that btw. If I sound bitter it's because I am. I really wish more VN/RPG hybrids would get translated (semi-decently.) Well... RPGs NOT named 'Beat Blades'. Eh, c'est la vie.

If you... read visual novels you're a visual novel reader... If the question is more something like "becoming a fan" of visual novels, then we go back to the good old debate of true fan vs false fan and legitimacy, and it's all kinda irrelevant, I think. Don't ask yourself those questions, just read VNs. If the question is something like "how many VNs do you need to have read in order to say you know the medium" there is a non-stupid answer but it's more complicated than a number, since it also depends on how much involved you are into knowing everything that surrounds the medium and not just reading the VNs themselves. You could have read 150 VNs and have no idea what you're talking about, you could have read only 50 and still be really knowledgeable about them. At 20 you're sort of in the average of players, but you probably don't know that much yet. But it's not something to fret much about imo. I'd say the genre should also be taken into consideration. If you are just reading all vanilla, harem, romance crap, you are roughly at about 20% (probably less...) of what the overall visual novel world can offer. VNs have all sorts of genres and caters to numerous amounts of fetishes and hobbies. You might not like some genres, avoid and not touch some with a 10 foot pole or you have absolute favorites, but you can't claim to be a visual novel expert if you are one-dimensional with your genre preferences. That's quite the sad statement for me. While the number of Visual Novels (subtracting nukige and incomplete reads and "not so visual novel like" VN's - Ace Attorney) I've played is probably above 50, I do actively avoid certain genres and focus on certain aspects even when I'm out of my comfort zone. Although thinking about it, I'd never claim to be an expert on Visual Novels. I'd much prefer to claim I'm an avid player.

If you... read visual novels you're a visual novel reader... If the question is more something like "becoming a fan" of visual novels, then we go back to the good old debate of true fan vs false fan and legitimacy, and it's all kinda irrelevant, I think. Don't ask yourself those questions, just read VNs. If the question is something like "how many VNs do you need to have read in order to say you know the medium" there is a non-stupid answer but it's more complicated than a number, since it also depends on how much involved you are into knowing everything that surrounds the medium and not just reading the VNs themselves. You could have read 150 VNs and have no idea what you're talking about, you could have read only 50 and still be really knowledgeable about them. At 20 you're sort of in the average of players, but you probably don't know that much yet. But it's not something to fret much about imo. I'd say the genre should also be taken into consideration. If you are just reading all vanilla, harem, romance crap, you are roughly at about 20% (probably less...) of what the overall visual novel world can offer. VNs have all sorts of genres and caters to numerous amounts of fetishes and hobbies. You might not like some genres, avoid and not touch some with a 10 foot pole or you have absolute favorites, but you can't claim to be a visual novel expert if you are one-dimensional with your genre preferences.

Okay, no. Just no. This is not how you do proper push-ups. My PE teacher kicked me around for doing push-ups like this. This shit doesn't help you build any muscle at all, it just puts an insane amount of pressure on your forearms for no real reason. Proper push-ups are done with your arms aligned with your torso so you can have a natural posture and evenly distribute your body weight. Also, getting tired from just one set of 10 push ups and 10 sit ups, r u srs? Even Hinako counted up to 100. What a fucking worthless pleb. And last but not least, there were no idols in this! Anitore-ex confirmed hitler. 0/10 would rather watch Hinako sleep again.

I'm a bit surprised to see all the flak reddit is getting here considering the results wouldn't be very different on fuwa and taking seriously/getting mad at polls of this kind is a bit pointless imo. If you... read visual novels you're a visual novel reader... If the question is more something like "becoming a fan" of visual novels, then we go back to the good old debate of true fan vs false fan and legitimacy, and it's all kinda irrelevant, I think. Don't ask yourself those questions, just read VNs. If the question is something like "how many VNs do you need to have read in order to say you know the medium" there is a non-stupid answer but it's more complicated than a number, since it also depends on how much involved you are into knowing everything that surrounds the medium and not just reading the VNs themselves. You could have read 150 VNs and have no idea what you're talking about, you could have read only 50 and still be really knowledgeable about them. At 20 you're sort of in the average of players, but you probably don't know that much yet. But it's not something to fret much about imo.

So a thread surfaced on VNDB with a short randomly-selected sample of the translation. The verdict is... not good. If the entire game is like that sample, I would honestly recommend playing with a real-time machine translation instead. https://vndb.org/t7012

Here's some colored fanart I did long time ago for fun^^ They aren't original, just drew from pictures I saw.

There's a fine line between being dominant and being an asshole See: Kenichi vs. Yuuji (especially during Michiru's route in Kajitsu) I'm just baffled that those three are on there, but Kyousuke isn't. Kyousuke is the biggest piece of shit for like 95% of G-Senjou

Finished Ace Attorney 1 Case 4. Man, what a case. What a case.

Please send help.

He doesn't seem to know about Kagome from Comyu

Persona 4 G Persona 4 Dancing All Night (9 days til release) Gravity Rush Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus Growlanser Wayfarer of Time (Not PS Vita game but you can buy it on PSN and play on Vita) Danganronpa Series Uncharted Golden Abyss Hatsune Miku Project Diva F series Deception IV Blood Ties Monster Monpiece for glorious ecchi card game Criminals Girl Invite Only Soul Sacrifice Conception II Children of Seven Stars Murasama Rebirth Disgaea series Dungeon Travelers 2 Then there is a whole bunch of indie games that are fun to play as well.