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  1. Just curious, but why aren't you sending a pm?
    9 points
  2. (This post contains spoilers if you haven't played the game, so please don't read it if you're planning to try the game.) A Profile is probably the most boring VN I've ever get to play. First of all the protagonist and the set up of the game is pretty weird. Basically, it's a school full of weirdos and unwanted people, I could get the explanation of "because the school is in a conflictove area", but that's not the case, at least that was my impression when I played, because one of the heroines is an Ojou-sama, and the scene where the story develops seemed to me like a very standard neighborhood. The common route is boring and repetitive. Constantly reminding us that the protagonist was a troublemaker in the past but now wants to "reform" or something like that, and the slice of life scenes were bad as hell, while I do try to get the approach the game wants the player to have regarding getting closer to the game's characters I don't think it it accomplishes it very well. I'll rank the three heroines from less boring to a "want to kill myself while playing the game" level of boringness: Rizu (less boring)<Miou<Miku (dear god) Rizu: sister of the protagonist. Her wake up scenes made me want to just skip her entire route, because I swear that I spent almost 45 minutes just passing text talking about how the protagonist is trying to wake her up and she doesn't want to. She feared her brother's attitude when he hanged out with his old friends and was a delinquent, that's what forced Masayuki to change, but in the totality of her route I found her annoying and acting like the description of her says: "Like a spoiled brat" (If the game intended the player to find her character annoying then it was a very well done deed.) Last but not least, the trigger to her H-scene was pretty bad imo, suddenly she likes her brother so much that she wants him to sleep with her without any build up. Miou: Masayuki’s childhood friend. She’s a "bright character" that just likes to be together with Masayuki and Kaine. She considers hemself as a normal girl. But what does the game or the one who wrote the game consider normal? The main problem regarding her route is the focus that is given. The constant question of : is she prostituting herself or is it just a rumor about her? (Although the story makes it pretty obvious.) Then, the constant back and forth about how does she like the protagonist but at the same time she wants to stay away from him as much as possible and wants to hurt Rizu as much as she can because she was the reason Masayuki changed from a delinquent to a decent student. What a retarded reason, although knowing Rizu's personality I wouldn't mind helping Miou in her deed, lmao. Miku: I swear to god this was by far the most boring route I've ever read in my entire VN experience. No other route can make me want to jump from a window other than this one. First of all, the fact the she is portrayed as an Ojou-sama but she's in a school known because of their badly behaved students makes no sense whatsoever, I could get the reason of proximity regarding her house in the story, but still, weird. She has a cold personality throughout the entire game, except when she shows her true intentions to Masayuki. The reason she's concerned about him is because he stopped running competitively because he had physical restraints that didn't let him keep up. Again, another retarded reason to be concerned, and after reading that I realized that I had read several hours her route waiting for something more interesting, a deeper backstory. In the end, all that I got in the end was a stupid backstory and a tasteless heroine. Summing up, boring story, tedious and boring routes and stupid reasons to do things. I know, it's a game and it's fictional, but man... Apart from that, I thank Amaterasu translations for translating the game, because although I don't like it I know there are lots of people who do, and after all a fan translated game will always be something good for the community so everyone can enjoy more VN's in general.
    4 points
  3. Hello everyone again, I'm the new guy that had posted that huge text dump of an analysis about the miracles of Kanon the other day. I definitively recommend reading the analysis, if only to humor me lol, as there tiny amount of crossover with this post. Not enough though to ruin your enjoyment of this post you do decide go ahead this one first. With that said, the post here is a summary of my thoughts on Kanon as a whole and goes through each route respectively. There will be spoilers but not majors one in my opinion. In case you haven't played Kanon and you're reading this now, I suppose that my post here can count as a review of sorts. Now that we're done with introductions, let's begin. First off, I think it's only appropriate to start off this overview with the main heroine Ayu Tsukimiya. Despite her name brining up imagery of the moon, she's clearly representative of the Sun's Warmth with her beaming personality and happy go lucky nature. With these traits in mind, I find Ayu to be the most charming heroine in Kanon and I can see how, in real life, it wouldn't be all that hard for a person to fall in love with someone like her. In my case, I really enjoy the type of people that can light up a room with their smile and Ayu definitely ranks up as one of them. Furthermore, Ayu's voice actress, Yui Horie (who happens to play another main character that makes a childhood promise in the harem comedy Love Hina), performance here in Kanon really out does herself in portraying such a sweet and innocent girl. I especially loved how you could hear, in her voice, every little emotions Ayu has. This could not have been that easy of a feat as Ayu's quite the energetic character and though out the story, she's quite literally running and jumping into people. Moreover, I would go so far to say that Yui's acting is one of the prime reasons I like Ayu so much as she does that great job with her. I'm glad in this case that Key casted her to be Yui and it was great to finally hear her second major voice role. Now going onto describing my thoughts on Ayu's route, I feel its well-crafted with genius moments of comedy and her story does a great job of selling how charming Ayu is. My problem with it, however, is that I feel all the flashback sequences with Ayu and Yuuichi in the past made the story feel sappy. In Kanon's defense, I may have enjoyed Ayu's story more if I haven't watched the anime and being able to compare her route to everyone else's. In this case, I definitively feel that you probably get the most feels out of her route when you don't have any expectations. I did though find the idea of pinky promises to be very cute though. On the positive side of things, Ayu is incredibly fun to be around and her dates with Yuuichi are some of the best in Kanon. My more memorable moments with her include: Yuuichi's first meeting with Ayu where she has him running away from the Taiyaki stand owner, the baking cookies incident and, going out to watch a horror movie with Yuuichi. In all three cases, it's Ayu's puppy dog excitement and enthusiasm that really wins me over as I couldn't help but love these things about her personality. Had Ayu's route the whole way been like this, I probably would rank it higher than I do. I would currently place it third above Makoto's and Nayuki's route. Overall though, Ayu's has a great but not perfect route to me. I chalk it up to maybe a matter of taste though because despite how much I praised Ayu, she shares in the same problem Saber from Fate/Stay/Night has for me. They're two people I'm especially very fond of but they don't make my heart skip a beat the way the other heroines do. In their cases, I see myself supporting of their love and I can root for them but when it comes down to choosing, there're just other girls I like more (Rin and Mai for F/S/N and Kanon respectively). Moving the discussion to be about Nayuki now, I really had high expectations for her, at first, because of the interaction she has in the prologue with Yuuichi. Having seen the anime, I know the emotional arc's in her story revolved around that of Unrequited Love. To put in perspective from my PoV, the majority of my favorite girls in anime (Yamanda from "Honey and Clover" and Ami from Torodara in particular) come with backstories that has their feelings for another character not being returned in kind. I have a strong emotional attachment to such characters as I can totally relate with them being that, the story of my life has been one giant unrequited love story. With this in mind, Nayuki, being a prime example of the above, I thought would really shoot up in my listing by the time I finished her route. I ended up disappointed, however, as I realized her character didn't have a lot of substance beyond playing the butt monkey of Yuuichi's banter. Like at first, she was really entertaining in how she interacted with the main character. This dynamic started to wane though as the route progressed. She then becomes boring, to me, as Yuuichi's developing feelings for Nayuki has him laying off teasing her. This loss of comedy then has Nayuki fall back on her three gimmicks of: Saying and getting excited by cute things' Being really sleepy; and talking in that really s-low (emphasis on slow) quirky manner of speaking. None of which really perks my interest in the least. Out of the three gimmicks though, there is one that actually elicits a response from me but, it's not a positive one. To be precise, I can't stand whatsoever the slow speaking mannerism gimmick at all. As I'm the type to listen to voice clips a couple time and enjoy the dialogue, it becomes a pet peeve of mine when characters are made to speak slowly. I feel it’s awful storytelling to have to sit and wait for actor to deliver their lines for a short amount of dialogue. To give another example other than Nayuki, I despised Sakura in Fate/Stay/Night during her route for this as it made a page of Dialogue take five minutes when it took me half a minute to read. Nayuki on the other hand though, wasn't as bad as Sakura but she didn't change my mind either on how much I dislike that mannerism. It’s a good thing though that I did like her voice actress performance as I feel she did splendidly despite the role's shortcomings. In this case, I feel that her character Nayuki failed to really show off her talent. I suppose though that this is the one time that I liked the Dub of Kanon's anime direction more with Nayuki. The american voice actress there still has her sound sleepy and speak with a low voice but it's not noticeably slowed down which I really liked. In the visual novel's defense though, Nayuki's Japanese voice actress didn't fail to deliver when things really mattered in the story and she made the ending of Nayuki's route a pleasure to listen to. Talking of Nayuki's route, I felt it was a mixed bag as her date scenes were very meh to me and uninteresting. For example, the café scene with the strawberry sundae's is pretty much Nayuki gawking over ice cream and Yuuichi just taking it in. I don't find that to be fascinating for one but, the real problem for me here is that Kanon relies too much on her gimmicks to try to win you over. In the vast majority of these dating scenes, I feel Nayuki's route lacks conflict or drama to make them attention grabbing or memorable. I'll admit though that I was very fond of the study sessions she had with Yuuichi in her route. They're the only time in Kanon that its canonical to a route where Yuuichi actually studies as a student like he's supposed to lol but I digress. I will say though, on the upside, that Nayuki's route was made worth reading with the eventual Yuuichi's and Nayuki's confessions to each other. Their scene on the balcony and the Train station, during the confession, gave me goosebumps upon seeing how romantic their speeches and dialogue were to each other. That was the kind of stuff I wish, in real life, I would find myself situations in and actually be smooth enough to come up with speeches like that to say. Then again, I might be just as embarrassed as Yuuichi is at the end of her route after saying all that lol but I digress. The point is, I loved how everything was beautifully executed and how Nayuki's unrequited love story resolved in the end. The payoff here really saved the route for me but, I still have to say that her route as a whole is the weakest one in Kanon and ranks last place. On a side note though about Nayuki's relationship with Yuuichi before I continue to discussing Makoto; I'm very understanding of the way the Japanese use the romance between cousins as a unrequited love plot device. It's very simple way of making a potential couple's love be frowned upon and yet, have the characters be far enough apart, for the audience, to entertain the notion of a romantic relationship between them. So generally speaking for me, I don't mind this story trope as I suppose most westerner's like myself would normally be. Now bringing back the discussion to that of examining Makoto, I actually enjoyed the Asuka from Eva look alike as I like Tsunderes on a whole. I especially enjoyed her opening lines to Yuuichi as it made Makoto seem to be more epic than a girl her age would suggest. This made me think that if there's something to Makoto character, subtlety wasn't one of them. She was definitively more likeable to me than Nayuki because of this as she made things happen. It’s a shame though that in the course of the story she doesn't interact with Ayu. I definitively would have like to see both their energetic nature play off each other, with Ayu's sweetness and Makoto's reckless abandoned, for some great comedic moments. Continuing onto Makoto's backstory, I was definitely charmed of the idea behind Makoto's miracle. There's obvious parallels to that of "The Little Mermaid" with a character wishing to become human but, I like the spin Makoto's route puts on the idea in that she was first a Fox that he raised as a child. In this case, I found Kanon's take here interesting enough for me to be more emotionally invested because; there's actual history involved between the Makoto and Yuuichi. I also really enjoyed the idea that the fox would want to reunite with her owner after their force separation. I'm sad to say though my thoughts on her route are not as positive. I admit it does a great job of setting you up to become fond of Makoto, with her childish antic's and mischievousness, to only then break your heart with her routes ending as she slowly withers away. This sounds great on paper, even to me, but I really don't like story routes that has the MC act like a parent figure and has his love stem from this guardianship. I had very much disliked this storytelling in Key's previous work in "One" where the main character, Kouhei, does pretty much the same thing with another character called Shina. Repeating the same concept here for Makoto didn't change my mind on the matter but, I do feel that it was handled much more tastefully in Kanon. Maybe if Makoto was his age I wouldn't have minded it as much or if Nanase was there to buy her a whole lot of Nikuman (That's a One reference for you guys xD). Overall though, I did enjoy the whole of her route more than Nayuki's and she ranks 4th place in the cast for me. The one pleasant surprise I think I should mention about her route though was the character Amano. For someone that's a minor character, I keep thinking about her, "Why does this girl have such a beautiful voice?" The whole time she was speaking to Yuuichi, I couldn't shake the feeling that I knew voice actress. Turns out it was Maaya Sakamoto of Oshino Shinobu fame of Monogatari and Ryougi (Freakin) Shiki from Kara no Kyoukai. I recommend if you ever play through Makoto's route (again for those that read it) to pay attention to that quiet girl. Moving away now from Makoto, I found the next girl in Shiori to be the most refreshing in the cast in how relatively normal she was. While I suppose she's actually slightly more eccentric than Ayu, I feel Shiori in comparison to the rest of the characters was made to be the least moe. She doesn't have vocal quick like Ayu and Makoto nor the personality gimmicks of Nayuki and Mai. The best I can think of about her that stands out is having a catchphrase of, "I dislike people that say/do such things." As for Shiori herself, I really liked how Key uses her as a mouthpiece to commentate on the situations of her route. She's very genre-savvy and uses this knowledge to better sell her more emotional moments in the story. Prime examples in this cases are when she first meets you outside the school saying (I'll be paraphrasing), " Seeing a missing girl after long case of Illness is something like out of a TV drama," and at the park, "I think this part in the drama would be the kiss scene." In these cases, the conversations really helped make her route more unique than the previous three heroines in that it respects your intelligence as a reader. With that in mind, I also feel that Shiori's emotional payoffs are more intellectual in nature and in general, she strikes me as much more clever girl than the rest of the cast. Where she isn't as charming as Ayu, I feel she more than holds her own, against Ayu, in how she keeps Yuuichi off balanced with her quick wit and unpredictable nature. This made Shiori for me standout, in a positive way, as a character I looked forward to reading about despite being a personality type I'm not normally fond of. I suppose that if you didn't like Shiori, she can come across as a smart Alek but I'm glad in my case that she strike me as someone likeable. Continuing forward, Shiori is the only girI feel that was able to go toe to toe with his antic's and kept you guessing what she will do next. To put it more frank terms, she's easily the most independent of the girls and isn't so reliant of Yuuichi's interaction to move the story. I really appreciated that about her and it kept me interested the whole way through her route This is unlike the previous three routes where I found myself at times tuning out of Makoto's, Nayuki's, and Ayu's story events. I suppose that because of the way her character is, it avoided for me the pitfalls of the other routes despite the low hype ceiling her date scenes had. Talking again of routes, I feel that Shiori's is a excellently written and well executed soap opera in visual novel form. Where the other routes, with the exception of Nayuki's, go into lengths about how special happenings that can't happen in real life, Shiori's is surprising grounded in believability. I like though how in Kanon her route subverts the normalcy with having Shiori being the soundboard for the exposition dumps of what a miracle is. The thought experiments she tells Yuuichi reminded me a bit of Fate/Stay/Night and Kara No Kyoukai, of Type-Moon fame, even if they were on the light side compared to them. The best parts of her route for me though actually doesn't concern her but that of her sister Kaori. Where Kaori is a character you see often in the common route and tag along with Nayuki in others, I really liked her break down scene she has with Yuuichi in Shiori's route. I also liked how she serves as the 3rd party dealing with Shiori impending death and she really brought a layer of depth to the route helps the route succeed. It's such a shame though for me that she isn't a dateable character in Kanon. She's easily the girl that I most wanted to go out with and she even has Saber's voice actress to boot. Ayako, Saber's and Kaori's voice actress, really does bring her Waifu best into the role. I have to say though it's much more akin to her earlier role as Lafiel from Crest of the Starts. So for all you Saber fans, you're not going to hear her be all pouty and have that stick in the mud personality type she's famous for lol. In my case though, I actually saw "Crest of the Stars" before Fate/Stay/Night and I actually prefer her previous famous roles performance being applied to Kaori but I digress. Overall, I really enjoyed Shiori route and her character. I would rank her story as the second best in Kanon due to how solid the writing was. I feel though that Ayu's route was more enjoyable at times than Shiori but, it’s the lack of negatives in Shiori's that I give her the place over Ayu. Ayu though does give her a run for her money on just sheer force of personality and its only barely that Shiori wins. I suppose it’s a testament how good the route is for Shiori and it goes to show that you don't have to go for broke to succeed. Going now to discussing the final story, Mai's route is, without any doubt in my mind, the best in all of Kanon. I say this because, it’s the most thematically complex as Mai's story combines all the narratives of all the other heroines into one route. Furthermore, This amazing depth to her story makes for a magnificent read that long holds up, like Zalor says in his Analysis on Mai, on the intellectual level after all the emotional feels start losing their impact. I'll start with my thoughts on Mai. I have to say, at first, I was very much set against Mai as her taciturn personality reminded me of Rei, from EVA, whom I hate with a passion. I'm typically not a fan of characters that show no emotion as I very much prefer lively character as I'm attracted to the exaggerated. For example, I really like Ayu because her character totally fits the billing, of being exaggerated, as she's very over the top in sharing her affections and showing her emotions through her audio quirk "Uguu." Mai, on the other hand, is the total opposite of Ayu as she only speaks when spoken to and when she does, it's in a small burst of words said in a low voice. The reason though I decided to give Mai the benefit of the doubt was because, I strongly believe in my main man Spike Spegiel, of Cowboy Bepop fame, words: "I like (a girl full of mystery and) a woman who can kick my ass." In Mai's case, an enigmatic girl that roams the school at night and, does it carrying a sword really fitted both Spike's and my criteria of a good time. I then resolved myself to ignore the Rei comparisons in my head and give Mai a fair chance. I'm glad in this case she didn't end up disappointing me, unlike Nayuki, and by the end of her route, she had become my favorite heroine. I suppose though that Mai's long black hair, flowing front bangs, and green eyes also really helped in winning me over as I'm a sucker for that look. Talking more in-depth about Mai, I really did enjoy the payoff in seeing Mai progressively open up, bit by bit, from her quiet shell. In this case, I really loved seeing how, from her humble beginnings of only answering Yuuichi with a single word, Mai would eventually able to carry small conversations with him however brief they maybe. This character evolution I felt was unique to her route and while it's not my favorite mode of developing a character, it lead me to be far more fond of Mai, even more so than Ayu, as I felt that Yuuichi and me worked to gain that special relationship with her. Everyone else I felt remained the same person with the exception of Makoto and that wasn't exactly a positive in her case as she devolved. As to now discuss Mai's route, I really enjoyed the change of pace the route provides from the rest of Kanon. A good example are the night meet ups at the school where Yuuichi and Mai fight the demons. I felt the atmosphere behind those scenes to be a much more Feels based Tsukihime adventure which, to me, is a huge compliment as that's my second favorite Type-Moon story after Fate/Zero. I also feel the comparison to be appropriate as the major turning points and resolutions of their stories revolve around the secretive night battles only the main characters know about. The major difference between the two though is that Kanon is a lot less action packed than Tsukihime but, it still does a great enough job to be satisfying with the fight scenes. Now shifting directions to talking about the day route, I really like Sayuri as the supporting actress to offset Mai's lack of interaction at school. I felt she was a much more mature Ayu and I wish, like with Kaori, she would have had a route even if the book had to cut Makoto's or Nayuki's route. That's how much I liked her and the voice actresses behind her as she's Tenjo Utena from (freakin) Revolutionary Girl Utena. That's amazing that someone of her talent would be in the role of supporting actress but, she definitely brought her money's worth to the role of Sayuri. I suppose though that Key would later rectify this as casting her as Misuzu in Air but I digress. Going back to discuss the day route proper, I really liked the Sayuri and Mai dynamic. I would go into further lengths why I like them but I felt everything I could say, Zalor already did an amazing job in explaining why their relationship and backstories are so great in his analysis. I would be just retreading what he said if I tried to explain here and it most likely wouldn't be as good. So, I'll instead just talk about some key moments I really enjoyed about them. One, I really enjoyed the (Tri?) date they had at the ball. Where I appreciated in Nayuki's route Yuuichi actually studying since he's a student, I love the idea that he actually involving himself in school life. We also get to see a heroine actually dress up for an occasion and Mai really looked good. I suppose though I have a lot of feels revolving the event as it’s the only part in the anime that I can re-watch time and time again. The other part for my fondness of the scene I suppose is that Mai looks so much like Nanase in the ending of One and I see it thematically, for Nanase, she got her dance in. On another note, I feel the same way about Ayu getting Tayaki as Akane in One goes on a wild goose chase and she never eats one which is the biggest tragedy in that book lol but I digress. The other key moment isn't all that important but it through me in for a loop in that, it was the only route that had any Yuri CG in it lol. As a Yuri fan, I don't read books like Kanon or One to fall in love with a waifu. I actually just read them because they come highly recommended but, I live my life thinking about the fiction I read, "Why do I want another guy outside myself getting the girl? If the girl is the main event of any book for guys, why not have two to double the enjoyment?" So imagine my surprise when, in my mindset that there wouldn't be any, Key dropped in that Yuri fan service lol. It was surprises like this that kept me engrossed in Mai's story and, the reason why I rank it the best (even without the Yuri) as none of the other girls route had that X factor. Other than that, I should talk about Mai's story as a whole. I feel that I just love everything about it and I can't really cite a negative thing about it. That's how good it was for me and this with the mindset that I don't like Rei-like characters. So if there would be skeptic to question the quality of Mai's route, it would had been me. Had Kanon had been just Ayu's and Mai's route, I felt I would have been gotten my money's worth as that's how filling and great Mai's route is. I mention Ayu though as I felt that Mai route is still a story that best plays off the experiences you have with another girl to subvert your expectations. Now, if I were to go into details about what I liked about it, I would have to cite my previous analysis on Miracles and Zalor's Mai/Sayuri analysis as they provide many of the reasons why I do. Being that this Overview of Kanon is already huge as it is, I'll only go into some of the details that I felt we didn't cover in those analysis. I still recommend checking out the two analysis to be more understanding why I like Mai's route the best though. First off, I really enjoyed the romantic payoff to Mai's route. To be precise, I love the dialogue between Mai and Yuuichi right after he gives her the bunny ears. That was on par with Nayuki's route confession and in some ways, more was more satisfying due to how much more Mai's story was tragic than Nayuki's. I also really enjoyed the parts after she stabs herself and he has that simulation run in his head had she lived past graduation with him. It was those imagined, small bits of happiness that struck a chord with me and, his near decision to only live in his memories brought flashbacks to One's "Eternal World." Which, by the way, would reinforce my points in my analysis on how Mai's is the thematic successor to One but I definitely have to digress here on that. Second, I found the story of Mai as a child at the hospital to be the most heartbreaking of all the heroines. I mean no one dies in it and successfully resolves but, it still tugged at my heartstrings more than Ayu's route who I feel was created with the exact purpose to do so. It's definitely the reason why I side with Mai more than any of the other girls even if it means their death, which would be in the cases of Shiori and Ayu if he ignores them to go on Mai's route, as I feel sympathize with Mai's dilemma. Not to say that I have personal experiences like Mai but, I just really feel for the mother and, I can't help but think what If I were to be in her shoes with a child. That's why I guess I feel the most for Mai's route as its parent going to leave their child rather than a kid losing a friend. Oh, there is also one thing I think I should mention about the hospital scene. I wonder if Mai's power is a thematic successor to the "Invisible Power" that Key's Creative Team used in the visual novel, "Moon" as its only useable by girls and, by being exposed to extreme stress. If and when I get to finishing the book, which seems will be a long while at the soonest as my current play will hit a bad end sadly, I probably write my thoughts on whether Key maybe reused the idea for Mai. Third, I just like how the route gives off that aura that Mai's is special and not like the way other heroines are. I mean it as like she's truly a child of destiny linked by fate to Yuuichi. More metaphorical way might be to describe Mai as Moses to Yuuichi being Aaron who in the bible is the one that actually performs the miracles that lead the Jews out of Egypt. In this case, Mai is the person the story sets apart but its Yuuichi that is literally the hero, as in more than just a protagonist, as he is the one that embraces the miracle. This is opposed to the other routes where he just enjoys the results of them and it speaks more to me romantically that he's proactive in this case. The fourth and last thing I would want to talk about Mai's story isn't the narrative itself but the voice actress, Yukari Tamura. She really nails her performance in playing her in real life friend Yui Horie "Ayu's" foil. I'll admit that it was a shock to me to hear not be so bubbly and be my voice waifu ( I'm particularly fond of her Jibril and Amane Suzuha roles) but I got accustomed to her take on Rei so to speak lol. Where Yui Horie will always be one of my girls, err favorites lol, I had always more been a Tamura fan as she typically exemplifies that exaggerated acting that I really love. In this case, she still proved her acting chops to me in performing in a role that's the complete opposite of what I know her for and it was refreshing to see that. Not to say that you don't see her trademark acting style in Kanon. The time you see her act more like herself is at the end where she plays child Mai. I also wouldn't put it past Yukari to have gotten the role of Nanoha because of the work she did here I can easily imagine being great resume material. Regardless of if that being the case, I would suppose that the bigger significance, of her child voice acting, here would lay the groundwork of her voice of Rika from Higurashi Naku no Koro Ni. Rika is practically the evolved concept of Mai's power and I find it fitting that Yukari has that role in Higurashi. I further find it appropriate that she play Rika as I remember reading somewhere that the maker of Higurashi cites Key as his biggest inspiration. I find it amazing in this case that the influence of Mai, if what I read is true, to carry over into Higurashi in Yukari's voice acting. With all that now said, I like to congratulate you, the one or two people that actually bother reading this to the end aha, to the place "Where the Wind Reaches" to quote the ending theme of Kanon. I'm very appreciative of the time you took to read this and I look forward to your comments, even if they were to say I suck lol. Overall though, I'm just glad that this post is finally done as it took the entire weekend and then some to finish. In this case, I definitively did it for Mai as I honestly didn't love the other characters enough to warrant writing everything I did. It just happens that I feel Mai stories is best viewed when you experience all the other routes first and that's why you see my thoughts on all the other routes. All I just need is that meme now that has the photo frame with a couple pictures of her to make this complete xD. Anyways, Thanks again for reading and I hope there will be some of you that would discuss Kanon with me. [Some Afterwords: I added the "girl full of mystery" part in the Spike quote in ( ) because its actually Shiori line when you meet her at school. I just find it cooler to say when you combined both of them together. The problem though is that I can't say Shiori Is my main guy because she's not and neither is she my main girl lol. So to make the quote sound much cooler and avoid the clunkiness of having to quote Shiori, I decided it would be better to credit her in the afterwords. Also, I want to give some last words to people that skipped straight to the end and read this here. This Overview was not worth the weekend spent writing it xD but, It made for good writing practice. Though I really do hope that people will take the time to respond, I'll be fine as it was good practice in getting back to writing shape as II was real rusty xD. I suppose though looking at it another way, definitively sorting my thoughts on Kanon will stop me from thinking for a long time in wanting to reread it xD and I can use my time for more useful things…. Like sleep lol)
    3 points
  4. The reason why Audrey is considered by many to be the best girl, and why she wins almost every poll ever, is because she takes her trope to the extreme and does so brilliantly, basically overshadowing everyone else. She is a treat for people who are tired of the sweet submissive characters that act like nuns who can do no sin. She is the antithesis of typical game heroines, and that's why she's so loved. Or so the theory goes.
    3 points
  5. Finished Isuzu's route in HoshiMemo, and it was really good. Drama wasn't as good as in Asuho's, but I really liked the interactions with Isuzu. The H-scenes were pretty decent too, I'm actually glad they included them. Now onto Chinami route.. ugh. Not a huge fan of her, but hopefully the story itself will be interesting.
    3 points
  6. Ixrec is amking his translations ultra-literal. Sometimes is readible (MuvLuv) sometimes is so badly written it's just incomprehensible (Comyu). https://vndb.org/p771 We all probably read new version of A Profile. Old art (from vndb): New art: I hate Miou's face, she looks like that Moomin from Sharin, Natsumi.
    2 points
  7. this thread literally brings back those pains my brain felt acouple of years ago...
    2 points
  8. We trading card and tabletop nerds will laugh at all the other losers.
    2 points
  9. No more porn, no more visual novels, no more anime, probably no more manga, no more dank memes, no more fuwa. Basically, the world would end.
    2 points
  10. ittaku

    I miss those anime

    What's bizarre about one punch man is everyone gets hard ons while talking about it, while after the initial grins I had with it I lost interest. The whole idea that he's super overpowered and can't lose a battle yet basically will remain treated like a street beggar just grates on my nerves. It stopped being funny after 3 or 4 episodes for me, but then my taste seems very different to others in that regard. Consider my opinion on it possibly unique in this world.
    2 points
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    1 point
  12. User info possibly compromised. I suggest taking steps to stay ahead of the intruder, in the rare chance your info is in his pile of data~ (change passwords and emails associated with your Hongfire account, etc~ http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php/452735-hongfire-com-password-reset-and-server-roll-back
    1 point
  13. Part of the reason is also over-saturation. That is, more games released every month, same amount of money going around, thus less for each company. But people can't justify chucking 100 bucks at a glorified novel, not unless you have a fair bit of money. I really do believe Japan companies will come around to shorter, cheaper, installment type games. @Silvz http://forums.fuwanovel.net/topic/14393-eroge-sales-201604/ Check out how few units 10th place moved.
    1 point
  14. ChaosRaven

    What are you playing?

    Yeah, that's actually my biggest gripe with the game so far. The silly humour and battles simply didn't really fit to the dark scenario. A more cynical and bitter humour would have been more appropriate. The characters therefore appeared somehow dull and out of touch with reality because of that which made it hard for me to feel sympathy for them. The protagonist appeared like the only one who actually seemed to 'get' what's really going on, and he was the main reason I finished the route. Fortunately, since the last part of Raziel's route when the game finally sticked to its darker roots and the characters got serious for a change, was pretty great. So, since the VN finally showed some qualities it earned itself me reading the next route which would be Sorami's.
    1 point
  15. Dergonu

    Hi!

    Welcome to the forum, nice to meet you This is very different from otome games, but you did say you were willing to try out other stuff: (They are all all-ages or have censored releases on steam. Have written which one has what next to the game title.) The devil on G-string (Non 18+ version on steam. It's a battle of wits, mystery type story. The game is quite heavy in both violence and sexual themes, though the version on steam is like I said, a censored version with the H-scenes taken out.) If my heart had wings (Non 18+ version on steam. The steam version does have a few rather awkward English sentences and a little bit of a wonky translation, but it is still very enjoyable. It's a fluffy and cute slice of life game, with a simple but nice story.) Planetarian (All-ages. Fairly short nakige. Strongly recommend it.) Princess Evangile (Non 18+ version on steam. The story is very simple here, but if you like slice of life stories, then I'd give it a shot.) A kiss for the petals: remembering how we met. (A yuri story. It's short, it's cute and it's all ages. Worth giving it a try if you like yuri.)
    1 point
  16. Fiddle

    Hi!

    Yo yo yo. As someone whose only read otome was The Second Reproduction, I suggest reading The Second Reproduction.
    1 point
  17. I'm embarassed, somebody called me by my name. ;3 But first of all - I might not be a reasonable source of information for this VN. I'm rather anti-stupid dramas. Second - there is 'some' porn (one, long scene for route). But there are versions around the net with disabled porn. I skipped thorugh h scenes, cause they were really, really bad. So here we go. A profile was written by famous Looseboy, man who created great G Senjo no Maou and nothing else worth mentioning. He understands how to write action thrillers (best scenes in G) and how to write nice comedy. It was in G, it was in Sharin, it was in A Profile. But he tends to do 'dramas' and I would bet my money on that he have no siblings and at least till the day he starter writing G, he never had any closer relation to any women besides maybe his mother. He just don't get it. A Profile is really short (around 10-15h, depend on how fast you reading, I finished it in 12) VN with almost non existing common route (maybe 20 minutes?) and three routes. There is an order to which routes should be read (or maybe there is imposed order, dunno, I went with a flow and had a proper order). First - stepsister, second - friend from school, and third - ex girlfriend. Yes, exgirlfirend and it's not a spoiler, it is revealed almost at the begining. Every character is 'mild' in every aspect. Imouto is mild tsun with mild energetic side, second character is mild quirky mildly strange and cold person, and ex girlfriend is mildly airhead type of heroine. Which is fine, they're not exaggerated in any way. But downside is that they're kinda boring because of this. It is a really fast read, nothing drags on, and it enraptures a reader. Kinda in a way Twilight or Harry Potter books does. They're not very well written, but keep reader interested. And finaly main course of this dish - dramas. Dramas in Hoshizora no Memoria can be summed in very little words, and they're mostly laughable (think Asuho or Isuzu). Dramas in G Maou side routes or in Sharin no Kuni are incredibly boring and/or ridiculous. But still - fairly simple. But not in A Profile. Dramas, or 'plots' of every route are convoluted, every character changes status quo at least few times. Think of something as covoluted as this (imaginary example, no spoilers) - boy meets girl, fun times, then old friend comes on to scene, everything changes, then another boys steals girl no 1, then girl no 1 reveals her dark secret, so boy 1 can't be no longer with her, but he still wants to be with her, etc, etc. That convolution saves them. Saves them, because as I said at the beginning, Looseboy doesn't understand people and their relations at all. Characters made ridiculous decisions, their motivations are simply 'fucked up', but it's shown by writer as 'proper way of thinking' etc. So there is a few unintentional laughs. Looseboy also it's known for his big plot twist. They're here as well, but not as dumb (nor as big) as in Sharin, and simply made sense. I gave it 5.4/10. Maybe a little too harsh, because I had a fun with this. Finished this in 3 days and was constantly interested in what happens next. But this is by no mean good title. PS Why is it better than Sharin no Kuni? Because is much simplier. Sharin with it's setting and attempt to say a big story had a much higher horse to fell off to, and it did splendidly. Fall so hard thet there is not much of a corpse to even pick up. A Profile was a much simplier story and therefore it was simply fall over on face after stumble on some rock.
    1 point
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  19. littleshogun

    Hi!

    You're welcome. And since you talk about money, how about I also offer one of the cheapest VN there, Lucid9. It's free by the way and from what I see the response to Lucid9 was quite positive (And the creator was one of Fuwanovel member by the way). And Eien no Aselia should be good too if you like some gameplay, also quite cheap compared to Grisaia. Hope my two more recommendation there help.
    1 point
  20. Totodile

    Fuwanovel Confessions

    Remind me to run if you ever ask me to come to a rooftop. You act like it makes a difference, you just want to reach early so you can use the wifi to get on fuwanovel.
    1 point
  21. Novel21

    Hi!

    You are very welcome
    1 point
  22. Novel21

    Hi!

    What you write song to, that it's nice I hope you pick up one of Voltage Inc games before or later
    1 point
  23. Novel21

    Hi!

    Welcome to forum Daydreamer97 and It's nice to meet you I'm happy another person like Voltage Inc games, since I'm huge fan of Voltage Inc games myself What it's your favorite Voltage Inc games? Mine are My forged wedding.
    1 point
  24. HuniePop is a fun game with great voice acting, good characters and fun gameplay, it's entertaining if nothing else but it stuck with us mostly because of the characters. Audrey .
    1 point
  25. I didn't like Chinami either, and my opinion of her was still low even after her route, but I really liked the drama in her route. I'd actually consider it one of the better side routes in the game.
    1 point
  26. littleshogun

    Hi!

    For cliche word here 'Welcome to Fuwanovel, and hope you enjoyed yourself here'. Looks like recently we had many otome player entering Fuwanovel (Not that I mind though, and of course they always welcomed here). And since you ask Steam translated VN, maybe Clannad, Gahktun, Dangan Ronpa 1 and 2, and Root Double would be good VN for you (Keep in mind that Gahktun was had some sex scene, otherwise all of my recommendation didn't had the scene). Hope you enjoyed those VN.
    1 point
  27. Arcadeotic

    Hi!

    I remember you, welcome to the Forums As for something you'd enjoy, possibly Eden*, Grisaia no Kajitsu and World End Economica See you around
    1 point
  28. I sleep like a baby while the world burns. No, wait, that's me setting the world ablaze. My bad. #WorldwideBadEnd
    1 point
  29. This was very amazing review and you was very honest with it, you make me want to play Kanon again. I agree at Ayu it's very cute and beautiful girl, I love her very much myself. I love Ayu voice myself
    1 point
  30. I bet it's that kind of bullshit that got acrobatics removed. Or maybe it was because everybody was hopping to their destination like frogs. I agree though, Morrowind best ES game :3
    1 point
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  32. No, Thank You!!! is a game I've already played and totally loved - it's what motivated me to find more of the same. I actually just finished installing and patching Togainu no Chi but it's still not working so based on your recommendation I might just skip it for the time being. Is Nitro really the only game in town?
    1 point
  33. Thanks! Wow, the art looks really strange. I will check it out though. I can't read Japanese, that's why I said it had to be translated into English. (Wish I could though, those all look nice ) Do you have any titles that could fit that are translated? Either way, thanks for the recommendations.
    1 point
  34. Don’t use anime has a study guide. Its likes someone learning English by watching Teen Titans. Half the stuff being said is made up and some parts of it aren’t even English! Dorama (Japanese Drama) is a good substitute. The main reason is because you can hear the accents, versues the voice-acting, and get a good hold of how certain things are pronounced. Also, it helps separate female speech and male speech. Books! Japanese textbook is a good thing to have. Some are bad, but if you get a good one it could be a very useful resources. College level sounds good. Other books are good too! I have ‘bout.. 4. Things dedicated to certain parts of the language are extra helpful, such as verbs and particles. Learn the basics. Hiragana and Katakana. The, move on to Kanji. When on the kanji, start to work on your vocabulary. For all writing styles, learn the proper stroke order and stick with it! Don’t get used to mistakes; bad habits are hard to break. After some time of working on vocabulary, you should start also working on the grammar. I would do it in that order because it doesn’t make much sense to know where words go if you don’t know any words. When you are at this stage, get an account on something like Lang-8. Its basically a language peer-editing site. Lots of fluent Japanese speakers and natives there willing to help you. Also, learn 'bout the culture! Don't just go into the language, learn about the culture. The more sense you can make up the people, the more sense you can make up their language. So, subscribe to blogs and news sites (in english of course). Subscribe to anything 'bout Japan and Japanese people and the language that you like. Tofugu is a great place to start at. Japan Probe, Japan Today, Kanji-a-day, and all those places are good. PS. When you are learning, its best to really.. Say it out-loud. Most of the words you will learn you will hear in a drama. So, say it and hear it so that you know where your weak and know where your strong. ..Don't learn from anime. Like, there are so many ppl thinkin' they speak Japanese when all they are doing is quoting Naruto. Dattebayo! Its good to get used to speaking the language! So, try to fit as much of the language as you can into everyday life. Like, instead of saying/thinking "Oh, i'm going to be late for school" be like "i'm going to be late go 高校/university/high school/whatever". Also, use firefox. Its has many plug in's and whatnot that are very helpful when learning 日本語 :] (Make it to where you can type in japanese..good stuff!)
    1 point
  35. Jojo is the only current standout action-oriented non-fanservice anime that I know of, although admittedly my knowledge isn't all that deep. But you have to be on board with the incredible cheesiness that pervades it, or you'll hate it. Personally, I think it's pretty great, but I watch it in small doses. I do really need to watch One Punch Man, but unfortunately it's not available for streaming on any service I have...
    1 point
  36. Please stahp, Re:Zero, I can't go on. Also, I seriously hope they end up killing the fucking shaman/puppy, it's starting to become the evil guy of the series or smth xD The story is only boring if you don't really care about the characters. This arc is explaining (although painfully slowly) the context around Emilia, her backer Roswaald and the maids Ram and Rem. They are not making up stuff on the go, or side-tracking, but simply going at a very calculated pace, which in my opinion worked great at making both Subaru and the spectator really happy at the twins finally opening up to him. If I had to point one flaw regarding this particular matter, is that we'll end up probably not getting enough development for the characters. The second arc balanced this by being over double the episodes than the first arc, but what will happen from now on? Will the third arc be even bigger so that we still get info about the characters apart from the new arc? The characters are still very, very underdeveloped and generally a mystery, so the anime has a bunch of stuff to do before the anime ends, or it'll end up as a disappointment. Yeah. But all those things ARE there, so it didn't end up being a problem. Re:Zero has, for now, masterfully made us feel like the plot keeps going forward, towards a "good end" for the arc, even though Subaru has died a shit-ton of times already and reset the 4 days. The fact that this last thing hasn't really bothered us at all proves just how all the little things scattered around each episode have caught our attention, how the ongoing mystery has drawn us in.
    1 point
  37. Hello again, Fuwanovel forums! Just stopping by incase anyone is interested in a project I'm currently working on. It's a C++ parser that reads through uncompiled .rpy code and filters out all the unnecessary text, and formats the necessary parts into a plain-text file for further formatting, but the text file will work fine on a Kindle as-is. A technical wizkid can probably program a regex to do the same job, but this is much easier to pick up for the user. Please note that the software is not designed to 1:1 convert script; it is designed to cut the amount of time required to convert a script to eBook manually by roughly 66% by doing the most tedious parts for you. It still requires about an half-hours work to trim the script down to the relevant parts. I do not and cannot condone use of the software with any game you yourself do not have permission to modify/reverse-engineer. The readme on the Github should answer any questions but if you have more, feel free to ask away! The project is open-source and covered by MIT (to comply wtih Ren'Py license) for you to do as ever you like. https://github.com/Slynchy/RPY-eBook Binaries are included in the "Release" section of the Github page, although for scripts that require a bit more configuration you might need to recompile with modification to the DebugStrings code. Here's an image of a test script I ran it through: EDIT: Removed PDF support; wasn't working out
    1 point
  38. Arcadeotic

    Birthday thread

    Happy Birthday @Kkoro and good luck with the development
    1 point
  39. The leftovers I planned to have for dinner tonight had grown mold. Why, Valmore? Why did you put mold in there?
    1 point
  40. There are so many inconsistencies and logical failures in this post, it's hard to know where to begin. First, I'm telling you to calm down because you are becoming rude and insulting. It is easy to disagree with someone without calling them rude names. You repeated assertion that "That's only my opinion" is not an argument, nor is it conductive to a discussion. It is, in fact, the anti-discussion. If you truly believe that all opinions are equal, then there is no point in holding a discussion on the merits of anything. Your posts are therefore doing nothing more than wasting the time of everyone in this thread. Making wild claims about the quality of a product ("excellent" "masterpiece") requires support, as you aren't just expressing a personal opinion. The only claim you can make that is purely opinion is "I liked it" or "I didn't like it". Anything else starts dragging other people, and other products, into it and becomes subject to objective (no 's') measures. You also seem to miss out on the entire oddity of you attempting to force your opinion that all opinions are equal on me, while ignoring my opinion that opinions on quality need to be back up by evidence. Why should your opinion on the nature of opinions be more valid than mine? That's just, like, your opinion, man! The reason I didn't bother with your aside about the objective (no 's') quality of most VNs is because I didn't disagree. Sturgeon's Law applies here, as with all other forms of writing: 90% of all writing, VN, novel, light novel, comic, doesn't matter - is crap. But no, VNs are not all crap writing that cannot compare to novels. Clannad, for example, is very well respected, still one of the most highly rated VNs ever. It won awards, including for the writing. Do you think it was popular because of the H-scenes? No, there weren't any. Because of the art? Itaru art, seriously, no. Maybe because of the voice acting? Original release was unvoiced, so no. It was praised, and received national awards, because of the writing. By the way, when you claim that something is very good or 'excellent', you are claiming that it is BETTER than all the rest of that material. How can you both claim that something is not very good, and excellent, at the same time? Also, be careful trying to compare a VN directly to a novel. Novels are a pure text media format, while VNs are combined visual, audio, and textual. It is legitimate to compare the writing of a VN to a novel, but sometimes the lack of visual cues can cause the writing, taken alone, to look bad when it works when complete. As you said, it is an ensemble of all its components. It is unfortunate that you then try to claim that something that is, by your own admission, only "better than average" is somehow "excellent". Now, about h-scenes, you seem oddly obsessed with the topic, and this seems to be interfering with your reading comprehension. I did not call Walkure Romanze a nukige. I have not condemned the sex scenes. In fact, I praised them. I said that the sex scenes were the only "excellent" part of the game, and that the rest of the material lacks enough quality to serve a purpose other than tying them together. I then said that, if the game was a nukige, it would be a failure, because the sex scenes are too far apart. But, since Walkure Romanze isn't a nukige, that isn't the problem. The problem is that those long segments before the sex scenes are shallow and boring. The entire point of mentioning the erogamescape rating was because you kept trying to claim that other people, including the Japanese, loved it and ranked it highly. I was pointing out that no, in fact, my opinion is pretty common amongst people that rated it, and the ranking isn't very high. In fact, Walkure Romanze doesn't even come in the top 1500 games on erogramescape. That is pretty strong evidence that other people do not find it "excellent" or "very good" - remember, a majority of people rated the game at 74 or below. And that's why it was relevant (it was not an analogy at all) to show that your claim that the game was popular did not reflect upon its quality, even if your claim was correct. 50 Shades and Harry Potter are popular series of books, but are not in any way 'excellent'. And claiming it is 'excellent', by the way, IS claiming it is among the best works. That's what the word means. Relating back to what I said about the sex scenes, the problem with Walkure Romanze is that of the 20 hours you will play the game, 15 or so are 'story' and 'character' driven. By choosing to play this game at all, you are choosing to play a story and character driven game. If you want sex scenes, choose a nukige. If you want just pretty pictures, go browse pixiv. If you play Walkure Romanze, you are getting a story and character centered game. Trying to then claim that one should not judge the game by the quality of the material that makes up the vast majority of the game, and that the game advertised itself as containing, is just silly. The story and characters are as much a part of the game as everything else, and need to be taken into account when judging quality. If Walkure Romanze had poor art, dull music, and uninspired VAs, with the exact same story and characters, then it would be a BAD game, as opposed to merely above average. TL;DR - Walkure Romanze is an above average game overall, but it is NOT "very good", much less "excellent", because despite the technical production values that went into it, the focus of the game, to wit, the story and characters, are shallow and not well developed. If you want to claim that you LIKE the game, fine. That is purely a matter of opinion. If you want to claim that the game is 'excellent', you will need to justify your argument, because you are saying that the game is objectively better than almost all other games, whether you liked it or not.
    1 point
  41. What ... what is that I'm scared 4/10? 5? It's staring at me ok then... 5 pls stop.
    1 point
  42. ABOUT SAKURA DUNGEON In this story (porn game) players (basement dwellers) will assume the role of an ancient fox spirit (with huge boobs) who awakens after several hundred years of deep sleep to find that possession of her lovingly made dungeon has been taken from her (by creatures who, also, have big boobs)! As if that wasn’t enough cause for alarm, she has also been robbed of her power (ability to keep clothing on), leaving her weak and vulnerable (to boobs). She soon discovers that it was a heroic knight who woke her from her slumber (by copping a feel... on her boobs), and after a brief fight (foreplay) and “negotiation,” (sex) the knight decides to join her (for more sex) on an adventure (of sex) to reclaim the dungeon (or her vagina, whichever comes first)! Together, they will unearth great treasures (boobies galore), reveal secrets (euphemism for vaginas) and hidden rooms (also euphemism for vaginas), and recruit monster girls (with huge tracts of land) to fight by their side (threesomes and gang bangers)...all while avoiding traps (dude looks like a lady), fighting off dangerous enemies (who have huge boobs) and bosses (oppai oppai oppai) across multiple floors, and uncovering the devious plans (new sex toys) of the new dungeon lord (who has huge boobs). One of the most important mechanics of Sakura Dungeon is the ‘capture’ ('grope') mechanic, wherein the player will be able to capture monster girls (needless to say, monster girls are endowed with huge boobs) they encounter and add them to their party (harem).
    1 point
  43. It's upscaled, but I like it.
    1 point
  44. Eh not enough for me to drop the game since for me the sexual content in HuniePop was only 1/10 of the fun, the rest came from Audrey insulting my worth as a human being. If they polish the scripts and make it a fun experience as a game, I still think HunieCam can work out. Also them saying there's no uncensored version just means there's no explicit sex scenes, I highly doubt they'll remove all suggestive CGs.
    1 point
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