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People keep posting their top 10 lists but frankly I can't relate to all this shit. Like, actually reading visual novels before you blast your opinion of them to the skies? Holy shit it's like I'm in good practices central or something. Since that's way too much work and the only way to get me to read things is to literally bait me with stupid bets like "I'll read some of your recs if you finish this buggy totally not moege that you probably can't text hook lul", here's my list of things that I'm totally going to read, sometime next year or so, so I can finally actually talk about them without spewing uninformed bullshit. 1. Muv Luv Series Widely respected, universally 7/10, porn patch never (but it'll probably be out in two years if we're lucky!). It even has a certified fresh translation, so maybe I won't feel like editing every single line. I suppose I should say something about the actual vn but I'll just assume you don't live under a rock instead tbh 2. Dies Irae I was totally intending to read this when the porn patch came out, but then the porn patch took forever and was shite and also I stopped respecting half the translators as much after trying out their version of seabed. So now I'm too elitist to read the loc, and uhh it's kind of hard in Japanese so maybe in five years. However YOU are probably not as picky as me so you should probably read this thing in a year or two! I suppose I should say something about the actual vn but I'll just assume you don't live under a rock instead tbh... actually I'm not sure if anyone has explained it properly without spoilers anyway so whatever really. 3. きっと、澄みわたる朝色よりも、*ahem* uhh yeah Asairo blah blah blah it ends with a fucking comma who DOES THAT? I already put Dies Irae here so I guess I should continue the Kamige train. This VN apparently would be really annoying to translate because it depends a lot on kanji on multiple deep levels or some shit, also the writing is memed to be real good (have u heard of Shumon Yuu), also it apparently made otakus mad because of how it had too few h scenes or something. Since you're a proud western elite free of any silly otaku impulses you're bound to enjoy it. Too bad I'm probably too shit at Japanese to enjoy it. Maybe in four years! 4. Mememasa TL out in 2030 if Peter Payne hasn't died from a cringe-induced heart attack looking at J-LIST ads before then, oniichan. Oh yeah, the ge. Uhh it's probably based on the idea that there are no true heroes, no weapon kills only the malevolent, and it's chuuni or something. Also it has only sad endings apparently. My edge boner is literally piercing the ceiling just thinking about it tbh. Maybe in 2.5 years! 5. Danganronpa Okay so I realize that danganronpa is pleb but it seems to have a somewhat unique aesthetic and I want to at least be able to have an opinion on it, especially when it's popular with people who don't normally read VNs due to their completely reasonable dislike of typical forms of the medium inherent plebness (actually honest question do I even want to associate with these people oh well). But I'm too lazy to set up the fan tl and reading a NISA tl is beneath my dignity so I guess I'm fucked for now. Is there even a jp pc port? I'll do it one day, mum. 6. Cross Channel Wow this one's actually translated, twice, too bad both the tls are terrible. YOU HAVE FAILED ME GEORGE HENRY SHAFT BUT I FORGIVE YOU BECAUSE YOU TRANSLATED THE MOEYURIKAMIGE HANAHIRA AT ACCEPTABLE TIER FOR MOE FLUFF. Written by the other highly memed vn writer after shumon yuu and ou jackson and masada and wait shit umm anyway tanaka romeo is like well known or something also he had an ln or two anime化'd so he's probably actually good (wait shit LNs get turned into anime all the time damn). Uhh so I hear cross channel is a comment on otaku and also the protagonist is insane or something and cool stuff happens or something, that sounds great, also the lolicons are diseased meme is good. Maybe in 3 years! 7. Umineko I was waiting for this to get released by MG but I'm told the fan tl group was mostly holding the strings and they don't seem fully approved by the people I know. Anyway people say Ryuukishi レナ has an either shit or unique writing style in Fapanese and it would be great to be able to have an opinion on this, and if the tl isn't great why not harvest this additional benefit right? But otoh I'd be reading a mystery vn that's longer than the organ that ended the life of mr hands (do google that, very good tbh) at like half speed. Maybe in 1.5 years! 8. Harukuru Ah yes, the vn that starts with like 13 h-scenes that are apparently funny and later goes sci-fi on you or something. Written by certified insane author Watanabe Ryouichi and consistently stema'd here and there, and possibly getting translated but there are no news and everyone's wondering wtf happened. The only real thing stopping me is that I should probably finish Subahibi in jp first tbh, so maybe in a year! 9. Horobikuchiru Sekai ni Tsuioku no Hanataba wo (This is my "doujin cred" title for the list ok) I've thought for far too long about a tl to the title, which should probably be something along the lines of "A Bouquet of Memories in Remembrance of this [Broken, Decaying] World" where the broken, decaying part is what I'm not sure about because how do you even horobikuchiru (the vndb page has it as two words but that seems wrong to me, horobu is in -masu stem form which is commonly done if one wants to combine verbs like say 踏み込む). Uhh yeah so I actually read the prologue and I kind of want to tl it as a teaser one day because it's basically about this scientist that's like "SCIENCE IS AWESOME, BUT I'M GONNA DIE ONE DAY AND NOT SEE THE EVEN MORE AWESOME SCIENTIFIC BREAKTHROUGHS OF THE FUTURE, WHICH IS VERY 悔しい (SORRY KUYASHII IS VERY HARD TO TRANSLATE), SO ILL LEAVE MY WIFE AND CHILDREN BEHIND AND GO IN THIS FORWARD-IN-TIME-ONLY TIME MACHINE, BECAUSE HOLY SHIT SCIENCE IS AWESOME AND I WANT EVEN MORE OF THE AWESOMENESS HUMANS ARE FUCKING GLORIOUS". And then you get six different stories from the future and it's like hard sci-fi and whew it's kinda annoying to read. Maybe in 2.1 years or something. 10. Aiyoku no Eustia Idk what's even stopping me tbh. Oh yeah this one has a translation project in progress which looks merely meh tier rather than actively bad so to any eops that are still reading this (why?) there's hope for you too! If I like it I'll have something I actually disagree with Clephas on which would be good because he's sort of a meme among jops. Oh yeah it seemed to have edgy shit and philosophy and politics or something and a cool fantasy setting. ------- You think I'm memeing, but this is actually my 本音 Read lynne

Seeing that we have many threads in regard of recommendation, and the sources was a thread that asking if we should have a new 50 VNs list that was created by mod Kaguya, I thought that perhaps I should make the one as well. As for the list, I decided to joined both of the old and new lists because after all even some of the old stuff should still have some relevance even now. Anyway, for the personal list list I decided to just limit it into no nukige and no yaoi for now here but feel free to suggest those later, and I'll consider to add those in the list and change one of initial title to honorable mention. So obviously for the initial lists I'll just list 50 translated VNs for now - also I'll just limit it up to 2017 releases for now. Oh and before forgot, the number here was not referring to my preference here. Also when you in doubt in regard of play that or not and didn't want to browse VNDB, I'll add the scores for both of Bayesian and average from VNDB. Note that the score was pretty much quite subjective, so don't let the score deter you to try the VN all right. 1. Umineko (Average 8.75, Bayesian 8.72) and the sequel (Average 8.72, Bayesian 8.67) 2. Symphonic Rain (Average 8.22, Bayesian 8.14) 3. Ayakashibito (Average 7.75, Bayesian 7.65) 4. Hakuouki (Average 7.98, Bayesian 7.81) 5. Comyu (Average 7.68, Bayesian 7.63) 6. Yume Miru Kusuri (Average 7.46, Bayesian 7.44) 7. Ever17 (Average 8.63, Bayesian 8.60) 8. Steins Gate (Average 9.04, Bayesian 9.02) 9. Norn9 (Average 7.54, Bayesian 7.19) 10. Pygmalion (Average 7.48, Bayesian 7.06) 11. True Remembrance (Average 7.75, Bayesian 7.69) 12. Quartett (Average 7.28, Bayesian 7.20) 13. Kamidori (Average 8.20, Bayesian 8.17) 14. Yumina the Ethereal (Average 7.47, Bayesian 7.39) 15. Romanesque (Average 7.36, Bayesian 7.20) 16. Eiyuu Senki (Average 7.68, Bayesian 7.39) 17. Chaos Child (Average 8.72, Bayesian 8.39) 18. Kana Imouto (Average 7.50, Bayesian 7.44) 19. Princess Waltz (Average 7.07, Bayesian 7.04) 20. Snow Sakura (Average 7.05, Bayesian 7.01) 21. Root Double (Average 8.14, Bayesian 8.02) 22. Princess Evangile (Average 7.47, Bayesian 7.43) 23. Noble Works (Average 7.36, Bayesian 7.30) 24. Aoishiro (Average 7.75, Bayesian 7.59) 25. DDLC (Average 7.62, Bayesian 7.57) 26. Cho Dengeki Stryker (Average 7.35, Bayesian 7.29) 27. My Girlfriend is the President (Average 7.17, Bayesian 7.15) 28. Yoake (Average 7.49, Bayesian 7.25) 29. VA-11 HALL-A (Average 8.01, Bayesian 7.84) 30. Kanon (Average 7.73, Bayesian 7.69) 31. AIR (Average 7.70, Bayesian 7.61) 32. Duel Savior (Average 7.44, Bayesian 7.33) 33. To Heart 2 (Average 7.41, Bayesian 7.26) 34. Konosora (Average 7.77, Bayesian 7.74) 35. Dal Segno (Average 7.30, Bayesian 7.11) 36. HatsuKoi (Average 7.56, Bayesian 7.42) 37. 11eyes (Average 7.45, Bayesian 7.34) 38. Clannad (Average 8.70, Bayesian 8.68) 39. Dies Irae (Average 8.57, Bayesian 8.45) 40. Subahibi (Average 8.84, Bayesian 8.75) 41. Koichoco (Average 7.48, Bayesian 7.42) 42. Chrono Clock (Average 7.46, Bayesian 7.36) 43. Saku Saku (Average 7.55, Bayesian 7.40) 44. Wagahigh (Average 7.64, Bayesian 7.49) 45. Fata Morgana (Average 8.78, Bayesian 8.62) 46. Himawari (Average 7.98, Bayesian 7.82) 47. Enigma (Average 7.72, Bayesian 7.16) 48. Gahkthun (Average 7.70, Bayesian 7.55) 49. Hakuai (Average 7.69, Bayesian 7.20) 50. Yurirei (Average 7.95, Bayesian 7.77) Keep in mind that in regard of the score, it might be change in the future. I think that's all in regard of 50 VNs that I could think for now, and once again feel free to suggest what kind of VN that I should add here. Hope the list would be help to anyone else here who need some VNs recommendations. Edit - Now that I think of it, I should add that it's only English release here for the title in the first place. So no Japanese only release here, and that's final.

probably, here's a fairly inner circle jop by my judgement some random quotes they found amusing there's also this picture which only has like one actual problem in it (jlpt literally has no speaking part), arguably two because of not reading moege without a hooker but honestly who cares lol

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The whole hype around DDLC is actually a pretty sad thing if you think about it, because it shows that although many people seem to be interested in VN's they don't seem to be willing to pay for it. DDLC got an 'Overwhelming Positive' rating with more than 55,000 Steam reviews which is amazing considering that's more than most AAA games even get. Now, the next VN kamige on Steam is Everlasting Summer from... 'Soviet Games' which still has over 25,000 reviews with a very good rating which is again free to play. And then we have Tricolour Lovestory which has much less but still an impressive amount of over 7,500 reviews. It would have surely gotten much more, but the developers dared to charge 99 Cent for it and so it get much less. And now let's have a look on the inferior 'VN garbage' on Steam starting with Stein's Gate which is still looking decent with more than 3,000 reviews, but then it goes down with stuff like Clannad which got at least still more than a 1,000 reviews. It then gets embarassing with Grisaia with about 500 reviews, Dies Irae with about 250 reviews (and its rating isn't even particularly good), Fata Morgana also just with about 250 reviews and Subahibi didn't even make 200 reviews. Nekopara Vol 1 kind of stands out since it got more than 10,000 votes despite charging a 'ridiculous high price' of 5 € on sale. So the unfortunate gist of all that is, that a big Steam success has pretty much nothing to do with quality and just indicates that the title is dirt cheap or even free to play for max success.

... I'm a meme?

Steam, and digital. I prefer to have my PC games on Steam, and doing it that way avoids issues with Kickstarters, not being able to find a copy, or the VN going out of stock etc. I'd do something from Humble Bundle or another site, but in both of those cases, I'd want a Steam key. It seems to mean only getting all ages versions, but I don't mind that.

I get that "there are better VNs out there that deserve much more attention than DDLC", but also keep in mind that it might be a good entry point for those who didn't know the genre. This is like with anime, when from time to time a really average one becomes mainstream who knows why and hardcore anime fans start yelling about how undeserving that is. Who cares as long as it introduces new people to a medium that otherwise they most likely would've never gotten into in the first place.

I can die with no regrets.

Better than any poem of DDLC.

Sure, but consider that most of those people would never read/see a playthrough of a VN in their life if it wasn't for DDLC. And the last time I remember something similar happening was over Sakura Spirit and it's hard to argue that Doki Doki isn't a huge improvement over that abomination. Well, maybe Hatoful Boyfriend had its 5 minutes too, but it was so absurd that I don't think it could genuinely draw people towards VNs or dating sims. As warped by internet culture as it might be, the whole DDLC phenomenon is a good thing for VNs and especially for the OELVN market. I don't think visual novels will ever go mainstream in the West, but they've just got tons of visibility and in a form that isn't all about cheap popcultural references and oversized anime boobs. I call it a win.

I tried making a workaround for this issue. Can you test this module and see if that fixes it?

Oh sorry, I was reading fast. Still, I was saying that the fan project that is taking long was announced as being "the best of the best". This does not relate to MG's version, which is the one I'm reading and enjoying. But since you ARE GOING TO READ them anyway, why should I bother?

You're probably correct about that! Valerie was definitely the most direct of the bunch, but there were some hints, opportunities, and slightly suggestive scenarios in Kaori's route too. It's a shame that the ending was so abrupt and a total let-down, though. I felt like I was at the height of the story when suddenly the ending slapped me in the face. On a side note, I love how other characters got into relationships and had their own lives, in a way. Also, look out for my new blog one of these days then, Lesiak. I'd love to have your commentary! also i follow your blog senpai OELVNS are legit I have no experience with this one, and I'd love to give it a try, but unfortunately I speak Japanese as well as your average fish can climb a tree. The day a patch is released is the day I will start reading it though, I promise you that.

Pinned as the highest quality recommendation thread for a full hour. ...Then we'll probably move it to another forum but hey

A guess you have many IRL friends on your main Steam? I couldn't care less about mine being "stained" with weebness TBH, no one there knows me and, even if there was someone, the really embarrassing VNs aren't even available on Steam, for the most part.

I have a confession. I have a separate steam account for reading VN's.

Done. Pledged. Now make it happen!

yo hold up boy, listen up this thread must come to a temporary halt, now let me tell you what you just did. You just quoted a hundred line post. A frickin' hundred! And you didn't even reply to any of the information in it! What were you thinking! Apologize to the database god for making him store all these unnecessary bytes! Now!

Please guys, you'd have to be truly slow in order to not understand what ending Ittaku wants.