Caelumcodex Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 So it's pretentious shit? Vorathiel 1 Quote
Kaguya Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 10 hours ago, Rooke said: It's a really good idea, TBH. The amount of hype Dies Irae has received, much of it because people like to parrot stuff other people say on 4chan, means it's impossible for Dies Irae to live up to community expectations. A lot of fiction contain 'philosophical' elements. Why? Because every person has their own thoughts, their own philosophy, their own reasoning that makes sense of the world. Much of the time even when the author doesn't realise it, that stuff gets inserted into their work. Sometimes this gets hyped up into more than it is. Like everything else, it's how it's done not it is there. With the amount of hype it has, it will be a failure for some people, yes. You can't start playing it by thinking it's the best thing to ever exist (even though I say it is all the time, lol.) That said, the game is very good. Its biggest strength is how well it's written, in my opinion, though it may also be its cast of antagonists, all of which are very interesting and well done (except, uh, Spinne. He's cool, though.) sometimes you'll even find yourself rooting for them, since Ren is nice, but can be quite boring in comparison. As for failures, Kasumi's route as a whole is just... Ugh. Why is that thing even there, I have no idea. It's also what most people will play first, and it's complete garbage (ok, maybe not that bad. Still...) It's also a story with a very large scale, which is something that may contribute to the hype, I guess. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Still, DI hype. Hope y'all also get KKK some day. Rose and Darklord Rooke 2 Quote
Jartse Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 Dies Irae imo is a charage with bits of action - people expecting MLA style action packed mind-bending sci-fi/fantasy will be severely disappointed. I personally find the extra stories better than the main arcs as it becomes quite predictable. I'll be looking forward to how they translate Merculius' monologues. Narcosis 1 Quote
Narcosis Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 Kastel preety much nailed it with his wall of tweets a while ago; it's the kind of game, which will truly distance away it's biggest western fanbase, mainly because it's not about the coolness or story, but writing. Therefore - if you're an avid reader, you'll enjoy Dies, but if you're there because you've jumped on the hype bandwagon and expect a chuuni-tastic animey tale, you'll be disappointed; it's not where it's strength lies within. I presume if not for such high production value, Dies Irae would more propably end up as an underappreciated gem of sorts. XReaper and Suzu Fanatic 2 Quote
ChaosRaven Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 16 minutes ago, Narcosis said: Kastel preety much nailed it with his wall of tweets a while ago; it's the kind of game, which will truly distance away it's biggest western fanbase, mainly because it's not about the coolness or story, but writing. Therefore - if you're an avid reader, you'll enjoy Dies, but if you're there because you've jumped on the hype bandwagon and expect a chuuni-tastic animey tale, you'll be disappointed; it's not where it's strength lies within. I presume if not for such high production value, Dies Irae would more propably end up as an underappreciated gem of sorts. So does that mean it's pretty much the Chuuni version of a Sakurai game with the prose > everything else?! Quote
Narcosis Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 Just now, ChaosRaven said: So does that mean it's pretty much the Chuuni version of a Sakurai game with the prose > everything else?! Not really, but preety close. The only exception being Masada, who's a lot more skilled in storytelling and conveying messages through their writing. Quote
Vorathiel Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Kaguya said: Oh my god, what an utter, cheesy, corny, sweet as fuck, piece of garbage. Really "fits" the visuals. Asimmacovski 1 Quote
Tawm Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 No sexual content aside, the version they're releasing in the west has high resolution 4:3 assets cropped to 16:9. That's a far greater crime than the lack of pee-pees and vagos. Vorathiel and Narcosis 2 Quote
Gumak Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Tawm said: No sexual content aside, the version they're releasing in the west has high resolution 4:3 assets cropped to 16:9. That's a far greater crime than the lack of pee-pees and vagos. Awww fuck I misread that part as 1280x960 :/ That's not good at all. Quote
Asonn Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 now people start crying about, oh no it's going to be cropped without knowing if the new engine might enable 16:9 and 4:3 or that they even might redraw the CGs for the 16:9. and even if it crops, let them. I also didn't understand why it was a problem with G-senjou cause if you never saw the original one you wouldn't complain, and for my knowledge nothing important was cut in the CGs. but people always need to complain about something I guess. Quote
sanahtlig Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 14 minutes ago, Asonn said: now people start crying about, oh no it's going to be cropped without knowing if the new engine might enable 16:9 and 4:3 or that they even might redraw the CGs for the 16:9. Is there a single VN for which the CG were redrawn to accommodate a new aspect ratio (excluding remakes where the art was redrawn entirely from scratch)? Quote
Rose Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 7 hours ago, Kaguya said: Hope y'all also get KKK some day. Heh, I'd honestly be more hyped about a KKK release, the kanji spam in that game is real. Then again, it's a good thing I'll be able to read DI in a language I can actually read properly, my brain still can only take so much JP before it starts hurting. Looking forward to talking with you about it. Quote
Suzu Fanatic Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Asonn said: and even if it crops, let them. I also didn't understand why it was a problem with G-senjou cause if you never saw the original one you wouldn't complain, and for my knowledge nothing important was cut in the CGs. but people always need to complain about something I guess. It was an obvious upscale, with some subtle distortions present - and that's coming from someone two steps from total blindness. Though I'll admit knowing the original visuals may have drawn my attention to the differences moreso~ http://waifu2x.udp.jp/ anyone? EDIT: Sorry, that's me derailing the thread :P, I should try and keep it focused on Dies~ Quote
littleshogun Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 Interesting news here, although obviously we didn't knew when it'll be happen of course. Dies Irae, for now I could only comment that this game full of battle scene, Moogy said that it was one of hard to translate VN, and our Clephas like this (His avatar was Dies Irae villain). In regard of release, I wouldn't complain about lack of sex scene here because Dies Irae was also released at PSP in the past and about the cropping here, I wouldn't know of how much difference it will make between original and translation here, so I wouldn't complain about the cropping here too of course. Quote
fun2novel Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 I read the non 18+ version and it didn't look like anything was missing. There were one or two scene where I thought if this was the adult version they would have put an h-scene right about here but other than that nothing felt missing. The version I played had a few extra stories which are way more interesting than any h-scene. Let's hope they don't crop the images but simply upscale them. Light did a high res vn that was in 4:3 so I don't see why they can't do that with Dies Irae either. It's their most popular game so I think they will handle this stuff with great care. Quote
sanahtlig Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 53 minutes ago, fun2novel said: Let's hope they don't crop the images but simply upscale them. Light did a high res vn that was in 4:3 so I don't see why they can't do that with Dies Irae either. How do you "upscale" images from 4:3 to 16:9 without cropping? Quote
fun2novel Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 I don't know. Maybe add some more details to the sides of the original artwork? Quote
john 'mr. customer' smith Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 21 minutes ago, sanahtlig said: How do you "upscale" images from 4:3 to 16:9 without cropping? You squeeze them, duh Vorathiel and Dergonu 2 Quote
ChaosRaven Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 Just to clarify some things about the Steam version of G-Senjou. This is an image of the evil, cropped and upscaled Steam version: Spoiler And this is an image of the 'uncropped' and 'unscaled' original: (Only compare the backgrounds!) Spoiler Ooooops... Yeah, the truth is that the original version was a cropped crap version too. And I prefer the high-res crap version over the low-res crap version. And considering Dies, I'll preserve judgement until I've seen the high-res version. Quote
Asimmacovski Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 l heard that you need to study German philosophy for 3-4 years to fully appreciate Dies irae, maybe if I start reading Nietzsche now I'll make it in time for the steam release. Quote
Tyr Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 15 minutes ago, Asimmacovski said: l heard that you need to study German philosophy for 3-4 years to fully appreciate Dies irae, maybe if I start reading Nietzsche now I'll make it in time for the steam release. The elitist circlejerk who likes to say this can't even read German. And we all know that you can only appreciate a work of literature when you read it in its original language. Don't trust people who read English translations! Decay, Kawasumi, Hanny and 3 others 6 Quote
Narcosis Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 5 hours ago, Rose said: Heh, I'd honestly be more hyped about a KKK release, the kanji spam in that game is real. Then again, it's a good thing I'll be able to read DI in a language I can actually read properly, my brain still can only take so much JP before it starts hurting. Looking forward to talking with you about it. KKK is cool, but I'd be truly hyped only if they'd translate RURUR instead. Quote
novurdim Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 1 hour ago, ChaosRaven said: Yeah, the truth is that the original version was a cropped crap version too. And I prefer the high-res crap version over the low-res crap version. Meh, I'd say cropping of the event CGs is a bit more hurtful than that of some random backgrounds. Vorathiel 1 Quote
Tawm Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Tyrosyn said: The elitist circlejerk who likes to say this can't even read German. And we all know that you can only appreciate a work of literature when you read it in its original language. Don't trust people who read English translations! Something, something, something, inadequate reading comprehension. Something, something, something, surface level. Quote
Suzu Fanatic Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Tyrosyn said: The elitist circlejerk who likes to say this can't even read German. And we all know that you can only appreciate a work of literature when you read it in its original language. Don't trust people who read English translations! There's so much irony in this comment, it hurts my head. Quote
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