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My answer in regard of this topic, I think yes I had. In regard of that, the seiyuu was Mizukiri Keito. She had such unique range, and guess I kind of like her voice a little back in Yumina. So, when I learned that Soukoku no Artertal had MT narration patch (Mind that the translation was bad, just in case you think I praise the translation) and learn that Mizukiri had role in there, I got Soukoku and patched it. Her role was Akari (MC girl best friend) in there, and yes she had same voice as Yumina. Oh, she was also voiced Chiho in Evangile. @mitchhamilton Did you play Kamidori by the way? Although the character in question was only side character, your Hoshizaki played Ragsmuena by the way aka the reaper, and her voice was very different from Kotori in Konosora. And if you want to hear more, maybe played Bunny Black 2 since Hoshizaki also voiced Filianne there, although Bunny Black 2 might be hard though. Oh, if some of you had interest in hearing Kaori Mizuhashi voice and Gogyou Nazuna (Ryouko Ono) voice, I'd recommended Madou Koukaku, even though the patch here was also MT. I kind of forget if I played for the seiyuu or not, but if some of you also Norio Wakamoto fan, go play it if the reason you play VN was only to hear Wakamoto voice.

Interesting topic, although I don't know if I could make it correctly though. But, let me try a few, although it may be come as overgeneralize though, and I'll also give my short comment about VN if there was a need in bracket. Beat Blade Haruka - Sex with your ninja (Although I'd interested because magical girl resemblance though, especially with transforming Haruka) Yurirei - Yuri Cupid (It's one of the title chapter in game too) Muv-Luv Alternative - Attack on BETA (Since it's said that MLA was the inspiration for Attack on Titan manga, might use BETA as replacement for titan. It might still wrong though) Koichoco - School politic (Mainly in regard of election) Steins Gate - Time travel Kira Kira - Travelling All-Girl Rock Band (Although one of them was trap aka our MC though, and the music sound like J-Pop from some reviewer) Soukoku no Arterial - Yu-Gi-Oh and Survival (Had card battle obviously (Better than Princess Waltz, go get Soukoku even if the narration patch right now was machine translated one), and the plot was trapped in another world) Eiyuu Senki - Historical harem (You're in the world with all of major historical character were girl, and you the only man. Your goal was to conquer the world and got the girl. Go figure) Never7 - The Moege of Infinity (It's first infinity series, and before the genre shift most scene would be not out of place in any recent moege (I think)) Ever17 - Escape from Underwater Park (Quite obvious, and the most famous of Infinity series) I think I could describe all of those above. Feel free to correct me if those description were wrong though.

Actually, we'd already got the discussion link for this game (Created by me), and if possible, could the mod joining this thread with the linked thread below? About H-Scene, admittedly in this kind of game you'll use it only for mana recovery anyway and boost your status (If you hate to click it, just ctrl it anyway since you could review it again in replay if you had the chance), and vanilla one also quite sleep inducing too. But if we talking about kainin sex scene, it's so entertaining to read, and maybe you'll laugh in the scene instead of being terrible (or still feeling terrible it's up to you). Oh, about Haruka challange, it's actually the challange from @Arunaru, and if you successful to do it, you will got 'Arunaru Seal of Sexcellence' approval from him. Oh, don't worry, I think to make it easier, just fapping to Dragon Synergy and Kainin scene (Although Dragon Synergy had 3 level each and Kainin had 2 level each though). Well, I'll definitely wouldn't do that, too hard. Even though it's quite liked at erogamescape with more than 1300 votes, I think compared to Rance it's still quite low (Just for comparison, Rance remakes (01 and 03) got more scores than Haruka, while Haruka was at 80). The highest scored game from Alicesoft at erogamescape would be Kichikuou and Sengoku Rance (Both of them tie at 90) while the one with most vote were Sengoku Rance at around 2300 more vote. In general, recent Rance was score higher than Haruka at erogamescape. Although, in the end guess it's back to each other taste though, either Haruka or Rance (Maybe back at 2008 Japanese people like Naruto, so when Alice Soft release a game about female ninja, people got excited. Just my opinion though, and don't discuss Naruto here. And the gameplay was improvement from Escalayer apparently). I think that's all for now.

Speaking about country, like I stated several times in my posts, I'm from Indonesia. If some of Indonesian people want more detail, I'm lived in Bekasi. And interestingly, in here there's also 12,000 member from Indonesia too. So, guess I'm not the only Indonesian here at Fuwanovel, eh? Either way, it's good to know. @gijimu Oh, since you're Chinese, Happy Belated Chinese New Year by the way, even though it's one month late (My family celebrate it too).

Well, guess I was wrong then, eh. Then again it was too obvious, so the answer might not Umineko though, although if the hint was to point out what's possible release for this year, maybe I answer it right though.

So now we've finally had Mangagamer survey result for 2016. Just look at the page here. I'll make some commentary about the result later. And Mangagamer prepare some guessing game. About the guessing game, I might be wrong, but I'll quote the most suspicious paragraph (For me) below if you want to try by yourselves. Here's the paragraph: And here's the question for the guessing game: If you want to know my answer, my suspect goes to Umineko, since we'd saw word fantasy and red text. Also continuations, sequels, certainly, and vogue was corruption from voyage. And since we saw so many death at Umineko, spirited make sense maybe (We've just recently got Kindred Spirit on the Roof recently though), but I kinda wonder about ears though. Either way, it's pretty interesting, although I think since we'd already had Umineko successfully patched with PS3 Graphic and voices, MangaGamer version will be obsolete imo. But by thinking the answer was Umineko, maybe it was too obvious though. Oh the last thing is that for March 25th - March 27th, at Boston Mangagamer will had 2 announcements. Well, look forward to it, if only for possible future release since I'd live in Indonesia, very far from Boston obviously. By the way, what all of the user here think about Mangagamer survey result here? Just discuss it here, okay.

Okay, congratulation for the new site by the way Akerou. And for the bump this time (Very late I know), the editing already reach 100% and apparently there is another process called TLC, which as of now already reach 48%. I knew it's already reported, but since it was the progress for Saku Saku, better post it here. For the TLC, probably he will TLC Konami, Ann, and Yuri in order. Maybe I'm putting too much pressure to him as of now, but good luck with finalizing Saku Saku there.

@TexasDice Thanks, although I just commented from obvious point, so I just miss important thing. And now since you mentioned it, I think I'll speak about of how MC solve Hinata and Chiho problem. Actually both of them were MC acquaintance in the past. In Noble Works, it's simple enough since apparently Hinata and MC was try to resolve the issue at the hand quickly enough, and Hinata was helped by MC anyway. While in Evangile it could drag to 1 chapter to solve Chiho problem, probably because MC had hard time to tell his backstory (Well, Evangile MC father was learn a bit too much from Hayate parents at Hayato no Gotoku), and Chiho was quite stubborn, so much I happy when MC decided to use Chiho as bait to the goon in order to convince her about his hard situation. Well, from there I could said that I agree with you about the difference (I mean with Hinata problem resolved easily, while Chiho problem need more effort and not so good solution to resolved it). But of course it's depend to each people which of the tone that they prefer I think. About Evangile expectation, funnily enough my first reply at my Evangile discussion back at VNDB was worry about Harukoi Otome too, which to be honest kind of thinking like that too, only with smoother graphic lol. Turn out Evangile story was a bit darker than that. While Noble Works expectation, well to be honest compared to Dracu Riot the background was quite bland, but I think it can't be blamed since Noble Works was released at 2010 and Dracu Riot was released at 2012 )Can't blame the expectation either, since they released by one company (Yuzu-soft)). But once again the sprite in Noble Works here still better than Evangile imo. In the end, I think it's depend on whic VN suited the user here imo. And also the routes in each VN. By the way, the head of Noble Works translation@Keisuke like Shizuru route by the way.

For the first thing first since last time I'd post here, may I ask if I should hold a poll in regard of heroine here, just like back in Koichoco? If the response was positive, I might add poll in every charage discussion thread that was made by me in the future, since if we talk about charage (and moege to some extend), there's bound to be different taste in heroine and the route between the user. Before some of the innocent user here posting Noble Works info in recommendation thread there, maybe I should bump this thread by myself as of now. And since there was discussion between Evangile and Noble Works discussion, maybe I'll give the input here. Oh before that, I'll talk about the difference in score. Interestingly, @Clephas give Noble Works 9 while Evangile at 6.5, according to his VNDB list. And yesterday I also checked erogamescape site and find out Evangile score was surprisingly low at 70, while Noble Works was at 80. Just for compasrison, below was video by @Conjueror about best translated VN in 2015, the 10th VN according to VNDB was Evangile, while Noble Works was at 11th position according to VNDB (Just watch at 5:38), and the bracket number was from erogamescape. I'll embed the video below, and thanks @Conjueror for the video. Although the video obviously didn't reflect much, I think that should be indicator that Japanese people prefer Noble Works over Evangile, while VNDB prefer otherwise. Well to each of their own, of course. If you want to talk about difference, obviously there is a lot and so does the same element. I'll try to list it below. The same MC was scouted by rich people to study at elite school MC was recruited by ojou-sama MC was very poor and had some side job The difference Evangile was former all-girls school, while Noble Works was co-ed school for the school setting Evangile MC live in dormitory, while Noble Works MC live in ojou-sama 2nd house Evangile MC goal was to convince the students, while Noble Works MC was work as body double I think that's all I could think for now. As for the sprite, I think Noble Works more polished compared to Evangile. And in Noble Works we got some experienced seiyuu voicing female character, while in Evangile some of them were quite new (At least compare to Noble Works, but I didn't said Evangile seiyuu were bad of course). In the end, to each of their own I think. But I remembered some discussion about of how Evangile MC only watching the girls talk, while Noble Works MC was more active. Oh, I should write my impression about Noble Works now. The sprite comment I'd already said that it was better than Evangile, the seiyuu was had some experience (And you know it if you read my first post here), although the music was quite normal I think (Didn't mean bad though). The story was quite funny, although if you ask me what's my favorite moment, it would be when Hinata realize that 'Kanemoto Shuri' at her new school was actually her senpai aka our MC imo. I'd remember that I'd read Kai review about how cool Koi Natsu no Last Resort featuring scene jump to the previous scenes. And Yuzusoft here was one step ahead did the same, and also they add cool feature that allowed us to return to the previous choice (Also with Dracu-Riot iirc). I think more VN should add those feature in the future imo. For now that's all I could write. PS Just recently, I realized that Sakurai Harumi tends to play blond hair character so far, although mostly it probably just in well known VN though (Her role that had blond hair were Lily from Himegari, Saya from Little Busters EX, Akari from this VN, and Haruka from recently translated Beat Blade Haruka).

Well, to OP if you ask me, the answer was no. But since I'd read the critic in regard of short playthough and sloppy writing, it's probably right that the money was going to the Japanese staff. My comment that I think the staff was a little too ambitious with their hiring Japanese seiyuu and singer. Although to be honest they already try to limit the cost by hire the seiyuu who had debuted in this game, but some seiyuu was already had many role in Japanese game, named Nakase Hina (Asagi in nukige series Taimanin Asagi) and Haruna Ren (Sasa and Kiri in recently translated Yurirei/Kindred Spirit on Rooftop) which I think those 2 probably the most expensive seiyuu at Sunrider (I'd read somewhere that the more role seiyuu had, the higher the payment or so I'd heard). But I think while famous seiyuu had high cost, nothing could compared with the OP singer, Rita which other than seiyuu, she was singer in many VN OP (Any Liar-Soft VN OP, Katahane OP, and most famously Little Busters OP) and probably most of Sunrider budget goes to her, I think. About the situation, actually it's quite interesting that OELVN developer willing to hire some Japanese seiyuu and hired famous VN singer to sing the opening. But I think they should make some refinement in the story and length, if the complain at Steam was believed. And lastly for the example, while I was joking that I want famous Japanese seiyuu voicing the character in Katawa Shoujo, until now it's still not voiced yet while the game was already accepted quite well in Japan (As of now, it got 80 from 64 people at erogamescape at this time iirc). From there I would like to thinking maybe Sunrider should add Japanese voice acting after they successfully exported the game to Japan imo instead of hiring Japanese staff to their OELVN (Or are they actually operate in Japan by the way). Maybe I'll plat this later in some future.

About kure, actually his work at Suika had some connection with supranatural thing, so I would like to said that he should didn't had any problem with upped those supranatural thing into horror and mystery, I think. Then again, since Moonstone originated from Circus, who made the VN Da Capo and the supranatural thing with ever blooming sakura, maybe it's not surprised I think. The reason that I said that had some connection with the spoiler from Suika below. I'll tell the spoiler, and beware if some of you who didn't finish read Suika of the spoiler. Once again, below is a spoiler, and if some of you played Suika and find that the structure like ef, it was because ef director also Suika director, and he was using the same concept as Suika to ef. ONCE AGAIN BEWARE OF SPOILER FROM SUIKA BELOW. I think that's the explanation about Kure from me. And for the seiyuu, we got Fujimori Yukina and Ai Shimizu (What's with her pseudonym this time? Century?). The OP was good, and I think that's all I could think of this VN for now. Not that this VN would had high chance to be translated in this year actually anyway.

Long time not posting here, so I think since I'd played it blindly, I think I'll try to offer some trick to new player here from my understanding. Also that's some interesting cheat preventing bug (I'd never use cheat engine like SpoilerAL in any gameplay VN honestly), and to @Arunaru I think @cantspeakjapanese was cheating, because his stat was too high for the time when Subaru joined the party. Oh, I'd actually almost finished it by skipping a lot, although I'm about to replay it though. Some tips or gameplay explanation from me, and with some comment from me: Libido mean dice recovery. 10 libido mean 1 dice, and since the game (or maybe Arunaru slip some hint) state maximum recovery was 8 dice, it means that you should only collect 80 libidos only. Oh for raising libido, you could cure woman kainin (Looks like Alicesoft use the reason that beautiful kainin was from present to allow us to cure them) using our trusty method from nukige, or I should called it sex. Oh, for play eroge option it had some CG from Alice Soft games (Those CG that I recognize was from Sengoku Rance. The CG were when Rance had sex with Sill at hot spring, Magic masturbate in front of Rance, and Rance had 4-some with Mouri sisters). To @wyldstrykr, about gaining SP, you must deploy your ninja at night. Oh, you need to do enemy search first to find the enemy. From there, you deploy Haruka to fighting the enemy, and each time you defeat the enemy, your SP Limit will increase. And I think you also need to do some Dragon Synergy (Sexing your heroine, duh) to prepare against boss and don't forget to train your ninja to increase HP (or Barrier in-game term) to prepare fighting the boss. You will did Dragon Synergy anyway to recover your SP, because Attack command only useful at the early game, and I mean only for finishing enemy with 1 HP left, because it only deal 1 damage and the hit was quite low. Speaking about hit, I think if our reflex was bigger than the enemy, the enemy will miss more and our attack will easily connect. Also true for reverse, although don't count too much on it though. Kainin what I would call monster of the week, because every Kainin appear, our ninja will appear like Sailor Moon and will make 'In the name of the Moon' speech after attacking kainin, while the kainin was harassing some people (Although some people kind of deserve it, some of them was too extreme, and some of kainin using quite incomprehensible logic). Oh, some kainin was quite hard, and if you lose, your fighting Blade will be punished by kainin. The 'hardcore pro-wrestling' I mentioned before was come from there. The sex was quite extreme to said it lightly. Each character could only mastered 3 skills, and you only need max 80 SP to master all of it (If you want to mastered 4th skill, it need 999 SP, and with anti cheat measure, let's just said it's impossible). Choose wisely, although I'm VERY VERY VERY (996 times) VERY suggested the skill that allowed us to avoid enemy in castle, because every time you face the enemy in castle, you will take some damage to SP and Barrier, and if either of those reach 0, you will be get out from the castle. Just teach the skill to 1 of Blade (Either Haruka or Narika is fine, although I would suggest that you teach the skill for the heroine you'll not going into her route). About the Dragon Synergy, you need some luck to certain extend regarding dice, although in case you fail, you could try again on next days, with reduced number from the dice roll. If you feel it was RNG, feel free to reload the game. Oh for the heroines 20 SP skill, Subaru was damaged enemy about 50% current HP (Useful for high def enemy), Narika was increase next attack damage by 2, and Haruka was paralyze enemy (Useful if we want to safely damaged the enemy). I think that's all the tips I could give for, and good luck playing this game, although compared to any Alice Soft games, it was quite easy imo. The end boss could be hard though, although Subaru 3rd skill helped a lot.

Happy slightly late birthday, @Clephas (Thanks for some Japanese VN Review here) and also happy slightly early birthday, @CeruleanGamer (Only around 3 hours until February 26th in my country by the way).

@Scorp Because you asking to upload that 3 times without explaining your circumstances first, so I guess that you want to troll us. Well, I'm sorry to misunderstand you here. Anyway, I think you better try to make new account, and as what I did, I only go to Flowers -Le volume sur Printemps- Demo Steam page, and just click Install Demo. Either way, just tried it and hopefully you got it installed on your computer. Sorry once again.

@Scorp My suggestion "Sign in at Steam by yourself and download it". Okay, I think to be very very honest you're slightly annoy me with your demand @Scorp, although I just realized that register at Steam was very easy. And the demo was free anyway, so just make an account at Steam and download it, okay. Now for my comment it's quite surprising that JAST finally announced the release date of Flower. Hopefully they will not delay this one, although I'd still wary about that though. As for the demo, I think I'd read some displeasure regarding translation quality. Personally, I didn't had any problem so far with the translation, although guess I'd already read something like Soukoku no Arterial with MT Patch experience helped me. But if some of the user here express disappointment here, I think JAST better fix it. I think I'll provide some info at Flower later (Mainly seiyuu though), in my thread later since apparently we'd talked about how messed up the demo here. Also curiously since some of you mentioned that JAST didn't port the engine, maybe back at Shiny Days they didn't port it too, causing delay at Flower and Seinarukana release because of the bug at Shiny Days (And apparently it's still not solved yet). I think that's all for now. See you at my thread for Flower later. PS - If @Scorp called someone lazy to the people who tried to give advice of how to get the demo, I think I'd better suggest all of you here to ignore @Scorp and think of him as (Sorry) troll or Steam hater. Because I'd just find out that how easy was to register at Steam, while @Scorp surely should know how to register at Steam, since he was more experienced in forum (I think). Sorry once again.

If you want to see more outside comfort zone, how about Himegari. I knew it's still not translated yet, but it got what outside your comfort zone. Gameplay, demon MC, sex at the story (Borderline rape), and if you think there's no translation, actually there is, only it was machine translated. Just google nekohen and apply it to Himegari. Some text still Japanese though, but I think that's not quite important imo. The gameplay was not exactly easy either, but after you play this, you probably will be addicted to gameplay VN. Oh if you want the game that was not machine translated, there's also Kamidori with almost the same gameplay as Himegari, except MC was more nice guy instead of demon, and the sex all vanilla (iirc). Either way, good luck trying the game, and I think I'll recommended more if you asked us.

So February 29th, eh. Well guess I should add that to my first post here to 39 days lol. For more serious opinion, I think it's just estimation of when Mangagamer could finally get their system back (Although I hope it's right of course). Either way, let's wait until March.

Actually, this is good thread. But I think @Mugi should asked that back in Noble Works thread here (Created by me by the way). Since this topic originally to ask recommendation for VN instead of asking how the VN opinion, right? Well, I'd actually add aedes review link back at my thread, and his opinion was this VN very average, and I'd said that you should try to find out by yourself by playing it of course. Although OP may said that he was asking for user opinion, I think OP could browsing the opinion in my thread though. Oh, if you ask me about my opinion in regard of Noble Work, I think I'd far more interested to cover heroine's seiyuu (As evident in my post) rather than the story (Also with image song, since Dracu Riot also had image song singing by the seiyuu and the instrumental version was used as heroine's leitmotif), since the premise to be honest was standard of any poor MC joining rich high class student imo. Although of course it wouldn't necessarily bad, and at least our MC parents was more responsible than MC's father back in Evangile, because at least they sent tuition money to our MC for paying his school, unlike Evangile MC when after MC left alone while his father run away. I think that's all from me. PS To mod, first of all I apologized for asking a request, but could the mods joined this thread with Noble Work thread that I linked above if possible? Once again sorry and thanks in advance. I knew it's in different topic, and sorry for promoting my thread here.

This time actually I want to posting this because it was hard to find, although the song of course was good. Here's Hisui no Miu from Kara no Shoujo 2. Note: You may correct me if I'm wrong about the song title The singer was not the Suzuyu herself, but probably the uploader (I may be wrong though). Either way it's still good.

Well, looks like instead waiting for 3 days more, now I must wait for who knows how much days. Either way, looks like it should be not very long. And congratulation for MangaGamer to finally able to workaround the situation. Oh, and happy 6 days early birthday, @CeruleanGamer. And hopefully MangaGamer was able to process the payment in end of February.

Interesting thread. And since I'd waiting for Root Double, how about it's main menu theme here for the example of good theme? Oh, by the way is Salyu picture there spoiler or not? Hope it will increase your curiosity about Root Double. If you ask me, the song was calming and at some point has some kind of urgency there. Quite interesting, and I think it's equal to 'karma' or 'all or none'. Oh speaking about Root Double OST, GundamAce lament that Takeshi Abo didn't play hand in composing the OST, because GundamAce thinking that Abo was perfect for composing Root Double OST. And speaking about Takeshi Abo and title theme, how about Gate of Steiner also below. Oh, I'd just remember. There's another calming main menu theme, courtesy of Jun Maeda, Rewrite main menu theme 'Journey' below. Although the tree at the title theme look more calming to me I suppose. I think that's all I could remember for main menu theme right now.

@OriginalRen What happened here I think that was because Kio Nachi was the writer at Aokana, and he was invited by Sekai for announcement of his new VN Karakara. Before that, some people here misunderstood that you may go to Sekai, and thankfully not (I'd also worry about that too by the way). In short, it was about new VN announced by Sekai and Kio Nachi. As for Aokana, too bad you couldn't get it released quickly, oh well. I'd prefer you didn't do the 2nd pass to be very honest, but if you want to make sure your translation once more, okay. And I hope the release will be around October. Good luck. For KaraKara, I think the length will be quite short, since back at No One But You, they ask for US$ 1300 and look what we got for the final product (For now). I think I'll leave the answer to @Decay. The most interesting, the composer for OP was MANYO and the singer was Luna who sang Rewrite OP. Usually MANYO work with Shimotsuki Haruka by the way. And we had 2 heroines, with veteran eroge seiyuu voicing them (Natsunoo Koori and Kawashima Rino). Oh apparently both of them also voiced character in Grisaia (Koori voicing Suou Amane, while Kawashima voicing Kusakabe Asako). For the OP, quite good and I think it's usual MANYO arrangement. The girl looks like they from moege though. As for the reason why the good VN staff try this Kickstarter, maybe they want to repeat Libra successful attempt? Either way, I think good VN was not determined by staff, but by the story. For now I guess that all I could tell from this new project. Good luck to Sekai I guess, although compared to Root Double kickstarter, guess it's far easier to funded I supposed. PS Maybe in future I'll open Aokana discussion page. Just think you'd got another user waiting for Aokana @OriginalRen.

@Arunaru I see. Too bad then, but it's only 10 days left to waiting for release so I'll be waiting for real one. And I get the gist of the game by the way if your goal was to make the user here and blog reader understand (Otherwise I wouldn't write my impression above). Thanks for your post once again at Mangagamer blog.

To OP, instead of waiting Flower whose the editor working as fast as snail right now, I would recommended just released Kindred Spirit on Rooftop if you interested on your research to yuri. It featured 2 yuri couple (The couple were ghosts) who want to make all girl school to the paradise for yuri (They said) or yuritopia. I'd already tried the demo and it's quite good if you ask me. Just played it, okay. Katahane and Sono Hanabira already suggested above, so I couldn't said more. I think those 3 were soft yuri game for now, because I'd heard there were some hardcore yuri games.

Oh, here's the explanation of the games from @Arunaru at Mangagamer Staff Blog. Read it here. Although ideally it should be arunaru was the one who post this one here though, but oh well. My though from the post: 1. So apparently days equal turn in Haruka, and it mean that we had limit 99 days/turn to complete the game. 2. You need sex (or Dragon Synergy in game term) to restore your mana (Very important since apparently free attack only dealing around 1 damage to enemy) or SP (Sex Power) in game term. Okay, although it was not as funny as pro-wrestling for euphemism of sex (The term pro-wrestling was from Eiyuu Senki). 3. The four god also like to deploy the elite mook (Called Kainin), and some of rough pro-wrestling (It's my call here, okay) comes from there. Also you could just lose by selecting command (Brutal Command) if you want to see your hardcore pro-wrestling. 4. Of course you will storm the castle (It's in the opening okay). Apparently you'll storm Seiryuu Castle first. Speaking of four gods, back in Go Princess PreCure, they had monster also based on 4 gods. 5. Oh, there was also dice system, which aroduc complained that it sort of luck base when he hoping like 21 number and he got only 20 iirc (I forgot). Quite interesting post, although the info was still quite small. Either way looking forward to 11 days from now. Oh, and one question. Will we got the demo by the way? If not that's okay then.