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you forgot one of the Sakura ones that had VA as DLC (Angels or Swim Club, I think it was)

you're right on the Aigis and P3-P4 difference counts, but I'd say that you are better off sticking with the worse gameplay of P3 FES (the PS2 version ) because 3D models and environments and some really stylish cutscenes are quite a big deal.

Congrats on the 1337

I agree! I feel like this was kind of directed at me either way, so I'd like to clarify something. I'd like to clarify that I just meant to say that Japanese developers are far more likely to have a good grasp of Japanese cultural and artistic conventions and the skill to utilize that knowledge, compared to a given foreign VN developer. As a result , when foreign VN developers try to imitate VNs made in Japan in terms of literary and structural devices, they usually fail compared to Japanese VNs; this was one of my points as to why OELVNs trying to imitate Japanese art styles, etc. are very likely to fail.

Same , it's why I want to study astrophysics in university

Happy birthday you beautiful bastard . I know you will make the best of it.

Well, there's a cliff between the reputation of OELVNs and Japanese VNs in the VN community, and for good reason- most if not all OELVN producers are very small-scale startups that find their employees in the English VN development industry, which is in its infancy if you ask me (an example: the sheer amount of the "I found out about VNs, I liked them, now I want to create one!" threads and the number of OELVNs created with this mentality is insane). As a result, cyclically, there's less budget and less talent to go around; which makes relatively less money, which lends a comparatively less budget for future works, and so on. Furthermore, the developers being Western (assuming) while imitating a Japanese style of storytelling and art means that they will likely have some trouble with it as opposed to somebody who has grown up/been intimately familiar with Japanese culture and content from the outset (race isn't the defining factor, but upbringing/history of developers is- it determines the amount of exposure they have received of Japanese culture). It's just due to this disproportionate amount of exposure: It's only logical to expect that somebody who grew up within a culture and specialized in something related to that to be more proficient to some extent compared to somebody who decided to immerse themselves in that culture afterwards. I'm also talking about general trends, not individuals. It goes without saying that very few Japanese work on a VN being developed primarily by non-Japanese. The industry is divided in that regard. The VN community, logically, is (overwhelmingly) comprised of people who enjoy Japanese media- in its current state, you cannot sustain a hobby of VNs without having some level of interest for Japanese culture; there are way too few VNs out there not shaped to some extent by Japanese culture for that. So, it's natural in a sense that OELVNs are trying to replicate Japanese VNs- that's what the VN fanbase has congregated for. It is also worth noting here the true roles of Westerners (hereafter I'll use "Westerners" as simply a substitute for "non-Japanese") in the VN industry. The Japanese make VNs the Japanese want, and the interests and tastes of some people outside Japan align with these creations. These people whose tastes align with the Japanese are the Western VN community: We are (mostly, though there are exceptions like 999 receiving a sequel thanks to Western acclaim) outliers, and the Japanese VN industry just interacts with us for more resources and a bigger audience/customer base. Western thinking and culture has very little bearing on the Japanese VN industry's development process. Japanese VNs do not try to adapt themselves to include more foreigners, the foreign fanbase that exists has aligned itself to the Japanese part of the industry. As said before, the existing VN fans like the output of the Japanese. Due to the nature and structure of the industry, Japanese VN developers are far more successful at delivering this output. This puts OELVN developers between a rock and a hard place: If they try to "be Japanese", they are outclassed on every count. If they try to be wholly original, then they will be unable to attract the majority of the community. As such, OELVNs -and their developers- are rendered unable to influence the industry by themselves. The Western fandom, as said before, is founded on feeding from the Japanese VN industry- it adds practically no original thing of value or influence to the VN sphere. As such, unless it restructures itself to be less about Japanese stuff in VNs (all your -deres and classic slice of life novels and your moege) and more about the merit of the format and the stories the medium can tell, it can change nothing on a wide scale. However, this is also unlikely to be realized: It is very difficult to shift a community to principles and perspectives so wildly different from the ones that brought about the community in the first place (e.g. it's very difficult for anyone to cause the current VN community, based around Japanese culture, to shift towards appreciation of "telling a story via text, art and music all at once"). The amount of VNs with literary merit (independent of major influence of Japanese culture) is not sufficient to uphold and sustain the interest of the current VN community. This only leaves Japan itself as the possible catalyst of change toward a more global VN medium. However, why would Japan be compelled to do so? After all, the industry sustains itself on the Japanese works, the developers are most proficient in those sorts of works, those sorts of works are the ones that sell, that form the backbone of the VN customer base, that give the VN industry its reputation and determine the first impression it creates. Thus, Japan has no compelling reason to globalize the VN industry. Outside interference cannot be considered possibly influential on its own, for the current state of VNs is the thing that determines who joins the VN community, and why: Any influence on the community from the outside will be one that supports the current state of the industry and drives it in that direction. People won't become interested in VNs because they want to globalize and popularize the medium, they will do so because they like the Japanese (anime) culture, and as such, they won't be compelled to bring about a fundamental change into the industry. Therefore, there has to be vast cooperation within the whole VN industry if we want to see VNs as a global medium. Japanese developers and fans have to want it, the Western fandom ought to be especially supportive of it, and OELVN writers, instead of trying to snag themselves a spot in the Japanese status quo, need to create original works in this industry that take it beyond what we've come to think of about VNs if they want to ever be considered a serious part of the VN industry.

You have missed yet another opportunity to rename the theme to Fuwabulous

just popping in to say that I find it fucking hilarious to see someone justify a taste for anal on a forum where porn about incest, noncon, loli stuff (oh wait) recommendations run wild. : P Nobody's gonna judge ya!

Try Soul Sacrifice Delta and Tearaway as well. These are two Vita exclusives and they're utterly GODLIKE. shush, you

Vita was a good buy. Senran Kagura, not really. If you still have a Vita play Persona 4 Golden and Danganronpa.

Not surprising. I suck incredibly badly at stealth. Like, cannot proceed more than 10 minutes into Deus Ex levels bad.

The post-Persona 4 fog syndrome is real. I finished it on New Year's Eve last year, and no fog was the same that winter.

I gave into temptation and started replaying Dishonored. Holy shit. I love this game's level design of small open worlds you can traverse in any number of ways. Also, thanks to Blink and Dark Vision (teleport and wallhack respectively) I am actually being somewhat decent at a stealth game which is unheard of Currently in my first "proper" mission -Overseer Campbell- and it's SO good. Found a million ways to proceed from any single point. I've gotten the nonlethal objective, but I want to get all collectibles so I'll probably find my way back through all the way to close to Granny Rags- I'm missing a rune and three Bone Charms. It's so fucking addictive ;-; Also I'm perpetually worried that I'll miss some collectible lol.

From an objective perspective, and arguing in terms of literary merit, there are only two VNs I could argue are masterpieces. Umineko and The House In Fata Morgana.

nice, congrats!

only 2 (3 if you count the harem) routes have incest, FWIW. Confession: I fucking SUCK HARD at graphic design. Just look at this piece of shit, took me 3 fucking hours and I'll probably have to discard it:

M A M A N K Y O U S H I T S U

confession: feeling shitty 1) couple of my closest friends at school tried to spoil Persona 5 to me. I fucking detest spoilers, they really pissed me off and didn't seem to care. They succeeded in spoiling me on some lategame stuff, I think, to boot. Whee. 2) Geometry HW too stronk. RIP. (Also there's the fact that I am utterly failing to handle all my responsibilities, yet again) slightly less pointless confession: I attended a serious sports drill today for the first time in about 6-7 years. My school's one of the like 3 high schools in Turkey to have an american football team, and I wanted to check it out (since one kid said that I'd make a good player- and given how shitty I am at sports I wanted to test that hypothesis). Was quite fun actually, and I kind of enjoyed exerting myself. Fucking exhausting though, RIP

congrats!

Do tell. On topic: Paying for fan TL's is a bad idea. Can't really add anything.

GOD DAMMIT

holy fucking shit what the fuck is yours

Not anymore Anything understandable by a layman to read about quantum teleportation?

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